War in Ukraine

[zagan0401]

[zagan0401]

An ex-convict neo-Nazi leader could replace Putin, though it's unlikely, says expert Candace Rondeaux

[...]Its head, Yevgeny Prigozhin, an ex-convict and self-avowed financier of the Russian paramilitary, meanwhile, is alternately being talked of as a potential rival to Russia’s president Vladimir Putin or a target of assassination.[...]

[...]While it is highly unlikely Prigozhin would replace Putin, and the oligarch denies having political ambitions, there is a very real chance Putin could reward Prigozhin with a high-profile government post. The Russian president has a long-documented history of handing out plum government jobs to potential challengers whom he wants to sideline or control and stacking his cabinet with security agency veterans.[...]

[jordi_89]

An ex-convict neo-Nazi leader could replace Putin, though it's unlikely, says expert Candace Rondeaux

This would be crazy if it happened. But I kinda want to see this scenario play out to see the tankies on Twitter try to justify it.

[zagan0401]

This would be crazy if it happened. But I kinda want to see this scenario play out to see the tankies on Twitter try to justify it.

if the Russian people vote and elect an man like this ghoulish Himmler...

[zagan0401]

I think that Americans and Russians must be in a kind of internal competition to see who goes further on the far right

[franklex]

if the Russian people vote and elect an man like this ghoulish Himler...

Heheh funny that you think ussians can vote You probably didn't heard about referendum on the streets, anexation votings with the guns and my favorite 146% of 100% of Chechnya (republic in Russia) residents voted fo Putin

But if be seriouse they can "chose" Girkin, person that has started a war in Donbas back in 2014 he is a true nazi and responsible for shut down of MH17. Therror against civilians is exactly that person which "russians" could chose for their presidency.

[franklex]

I just saw a post (from a couple days ago) how the war started 1 year ago and it's just exhausting and heartbreaking that so many people (millions) have to go through this crap AGAIN. Not only in Ukraine, but you get what I mean.
I also saw a video from a refugee (young adult) that moved to Catalonia after the war started, without his parents, and he was sharing his story (in Catalan btw) and I almost cried. It was on the news.

I can not simply watch anything about Mariupol without crying even after a year. Last days on Ukrainian trends in youtube is this documentay (English subs aviliable):


Video called "YEAR" all of us stocjed in february since then and its a "ferocious" year for all of us here. In ukrainian "Febuary" is "Lyuty" which means fury (it connects with them most strongest winter month). And nowdays this month becomes be associated with second meaning as a hard one, ferocious month and we are still living in this "ferocious february". The video is about that year.

I've cyed again when a 5 year old child says that they run away, his mothe went into the city and didn't back, and now he is alone and I think none of adults could not say to this child that his mother probably died... Becousee i see he keep saying like his mothe will come back but something went wrong and she just don't know where he is or something... Hopefully he has fathe which is in the West Ukaine and ukrainians help this boy to come to his father. I cied again when have seen them together. After a case when кussian soilders a baby to its mother... Also, I can not have enough emotions, when think about that case, how a person can tie a baby to a murdered mother, and when the Ukrainian soilder tried to free a child, the explosive device kills soilder and injures others nearby. At this moment I feel something I have never feel in my whole life and simply can not describe what I feel.

[jordi_89]

I think that Americans and Russians must be in a kind of internal competition to see who goes further on the far right

Lol that's so true, specially in some states (that were already conservative). The entire world seems to be losing their mind, when you see far-right and even white supremacists in every continent.

[zagan0401]

Heheh funny that you think ussians can vote You probably didn't heard about referendum on the streets, anexation votings with the guns and my favorite 146% of 100% of Chechnya (republic in Russia) residents voted fo Putin

But if be seriouse they can "chose" Girkin, person that has started a war in Donbas back in 2014 he is a true nazi and responsible for shut down of MH17. Therror against civilians is exactly that person which "russians" could chose for their presidency.

I'm talking about Russia de facto. Putin has always won with more than 64% in recent years, a fraud in a region of 1.5M of people is derisory close to his popularity.

Western anti-Putin institutes estimate their popularity at 70% Russians are not helpless people under a cruel dictatorship...

Girkin, Kots, Boris Rozhin, German Kulikovsky, Prigozhin... there is no shortage of neo-Nazis who can kick Putin from the chair by elections or coups

[zagan0401]

Lol that's so true, specially in some states (that were already conservative). The entire world seems to be losing their mind, when you see far-right and even white supremacists in every continent.

and Brazilians are just looking at American and Russian cruelties and choosing those who want to copy

messy world

[jordi_89]

and Brazilians are just looking at American and Russian cruelties and choosing those who want to copy

messy world

Hopefully after Bolsonaro fled to Florida, the Brazilian far-right will keep quiet for a while.

[zagan0401]

Hopefully after Bolsonaro fled to Florida, the Brazilian far-right will keep quiet for a while.

We have Xandão, a Supreme Court judge who makes criminal prosecution against far-right

[jordi_89]

We have Xandão, a Supreme Court judge who makes criminal prosecution against far-right

Oh that's cool.

[zagan0401]

Ukraine city of Bakhmut surrounded, say Russian mercenaries

[zagan0401]

BBC UK

Russian and Ukrainian forces are fighting in the streets of Bakhmut - but Russia does not control the eastern city, its deputy mayor has said. Oleksandr Marchenko also told the BBC the remaining 4,000 civilians are living in shelters without access to gas, electricity or water. Mr Marchenko said "not a single building" had remained untouched and that the city is "almost destroyed",

Bakhmut has seen months of fighting, as Russia tries to take charge. "There is fighting near the city and there are also street fights," Mr Marchenko said.Taking the city would be a rare battlefield success in recent months for Russia. But despite that, the city's strategic value has been questioned. Some experts say any Russian victory could be pyrrhic - that is, not worth the cost[...].

[Zeph]

This war has wrought a devastating toll on civilians and shattered millions of lives. I just pray there is an end in sight very soon. How many lives must be taken and how much more blood must be shed.

[zagan0401]

[franklex]

Whole Ukraine covers their pages with two simple words "SLAVA UKRAINI" ("Glory to Ukraine"). in the response of how russians killed ukrainian soilder for two words. Another devastating and barbaric war crime.

[18+] Execution of a Captured Ukrainian For The Words Glory To Ukraine.



But some idiots keep talking that Ukrainians are nazis and saying about that ukrainians make war crimes which they can not show to us, just words like it just should be like they say...

[zagan0401]

Is this real?

[franklex]

^^ why do you post this here? I am seriouse this topic needs a spetial thread about this whole neo-nazi shit.

YOu say - Is this real?
Real what? Picture, words, post??? what?

Fist, this picture comes from 2012 and from Canada not from Ukraine.
Second, "bandera's flag' is a flag of The Ukrainian Insurgent Army which during WW2 fight against the Soviet Union, nazi Germany and Communist Poland
Thid Bandera died in german camps , his "state" was not about being nazis but fight against anyone in the name of independance of Ukraine.
And Last Red and Black colors symbolyzing blood of ukrainian soilders and people. If you take flag of Ukraine and put it into a blood it will become red/black. It symbols a suffering and resistance to fight for Ukraine and pay with your own blod for the goal of independant Ukaine.

So i think that tweet is just as a whole is fake. You could see comments under that tweer there is much more about nazis in russia rather then picture of something in Canada....

[GreekGeek]

Hadn't the US along with the UK and Ukraine accused Russia without evidence about the sabotage? This is embarassing...
I can imagine the next chapter: this "Pro-Ukrainian" group were in reality Russians who oppose the war.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/u...e-ukraine.html

[franklex]

https://mobile.twitter.com/guyverhof...81363970826240

[marat2408]

Hadn't the US along with the UK and Ukraine accused Russia without evidence about the sabotage? This is embarassing...
I can imagine the next chapter: this "Pro-Ukrainian" group were in reality Russians who oppose the war.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/07/u...e-ukraine.html

Bulls**t. I wouldn't be surprised if european press will say the same. NATO just try to deflect suspicion from themselves.

[zagan0401]

^^ why do you post this here? I am seriouse this topic needs a spetial thread about this whole neo-nazi shit.

YOu say - Is this real?
Real what? Picture, words, post??? what?

I think if you got so nervous and aggressive it's because that tweet might have a little bit of truth

The tweet was posted on March 4 and had over 70,000 views, being quite popular on Global South accounts

Just asking if the pic is real or was created by computer tricks

Debating the vision that has been structured on Ukraine beyond the walls of the white population is essential to understand why countries representing 6 billion people (or 4 billion, as a conservative estimate) fear in a storm way to support Ukraine.

[zagan0401]

First, this picture comes from 2012 and from Canada not from Ukraine.

The description of the image is correct, although I think there may be confusion.

It was taken in a Ukrainian "cultural enclave" in Toronto, Canada, almost entirely composed of the Ukrainian diaspora, its members have dual nationality, learn the Ukrainian language and are influential in Ukraine's internal politics. So, it's a ukrainian school.

Unless you don't know that, it seems a little cynical to me.

In addition, you can see pics of moments similar to this in Ukraine between 2004 and 2018 here[1].

Second, "bandera's flag' is a flag of The Ukrainian Insurgent Army which during WW2 fight against the Soviet Union, nazi Germany and Communist Poland.

Third: Bandera died in german camps , his "state" was not about being nazis but fight against anyone in the name of independance of Ukraine.

And Last Red and Black colors symbolyzing blood of ukrainian soilders and people. If you take flag of Ukraine and put it into a blood it will become red/black. It symbols a suffering and resistance to fight for Ukraine and pay with your own blod for the goal of independant Ukaine.

That this could also symbolize the hundreds of thousands of lives that were decimated by an ideal of a "Ukraine for a one race" of ukrainian far-right nationalists who led such efforts of "independence".

You have turned these cruel figures into national heroes, whom almost entirely Western historiography[1][2][3][4] recognizes as cowardly nazifascists who took advantage of a racial persecution of the third reich against Jews and Poles to create a campaign of ethnic cleansing and genocide in General Government (occupied Poland), instead of leading successful efforts against soviets in Ukrainian-majority areas to the east.

[1]Radio Canada Internacional (RCI)
[2]Haaretz
[3]Lund University
[4]DW

Anders Rudling[1][2], John-Paul Himka[1], Andreas Umland[4], Grzegorz Rossolinski-Liebe[4].

Second, "bandera's flag' is a flag of The Ukrainian Insurgent Army which during WW2 fight against the Soviet Union, nazi Germany and Communist Poland. Bandera died in german camps , his "state" was not about being nazis but fight against anyone in the name of independance of Ukraine.

This is classified as Ukrainian fascist propaganda here [1][3][4].

So i think that tweet is just as a whole is fake. You could see comments under that tweer there is much more about nazis in russia rather then picture of something in Canada....

Russia, in an insightful way, takes advantage of this to introduce the vast Ukrainian contradictions in its propaganda. And Russia has won the narrative war in much of the world.