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  • I guess Dems are going to need another candidate for 2024, Joe's going down fast.
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    • Originally posted by heppolo View Post
      I guess Dems are going to need another candidate for 2024, Joe's going down fast.
      Most times the incumbent is a shoo in. At the moment, I dont see any other Dem candidate who has the same command, especially once Joe begins to use the bully pulpit
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      • Originally posted by bm08 View Post

        Most times the incumbent is a shoo in. At the moment, I dont see any other Dem candidate who has the same command, especially once Joe begins to use the bully pulpit
        Hillary can politely ask Joe to step aside in a Lyndon B Johnson way
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            • Not a shocker, but still devastating.

              Democracy was nice while we had it.

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              • Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                Ugh really why won't the rest of the Dems just get rid of these two? Stuff like this erases any credibility they may have as a party. And they expect a "blue wave" in 2022 or in 2024? Ha.

                And pls if I hear any more political commentator say stuff like "they have to gain back the moderates", gurl this is straight right wing. If they go more right they'll become the GOP. What a ****ed up country.
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                • ^And how do they get rid of them? They were elected into office. They can't be fired.

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                  • Doing illegal or immoral stuff to force them to resign. Fighting fire with fire. (I could think of worse stuff but imma keep it PC).
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                    • Originally posted by jordi_89 View Post

                      Ugh really why won't the rest of the Dems just get rid of these two? Stuff like this erases any credibility they may have as a party. And they expect a "blue wave" in 2022 or in 2024? Ha.

                      And pls if I hear any more political commentator say stuff like "they have to gain back the moderates", gurl this is straight right wing. If they go more right they'll become the GOP. What a ****ed up country.
                      Dems are there to lose and to cave in to GOP (some even go as far to say "paid to lose by their donors"), they're loyal assistants in this oligarchy/corporatocracy/military-industrial-complex sort of government.
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                      • Despite steady efforts to distance himself from his biggest opponent, Trump, and his straight-forward communicative style, Biden referred to a journalist as 'son of a bitch' (source).
                        Saying that you don't know what to answer? That's fine.
                        Saying that you don't have the time to answer at the moment? That's OK.
                        Not answering at all? Ouch... Biggest communicative fail you can do.

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                        • US Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer to retire - reports



                          Liberal US Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer is expected to retire later this year, US media has learned.


                          NBC News first reported the judge will step down at the end of the court's current term in June after more than 27 years on the bench.

                          His decision ensures President Joe Biden will have an opportunity to nominate his successor.

                          Democrats have piled pressure on Mr Breyer - who, at 83, was the oldest judge on the bench - to retire.

                          His replacement will not shift the court's current 6-3 split between conservative and liberal justices, though Mr Breyer's successor could serve for decades.

                          Mr Biden has previously pledged to nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court for the first time ever.

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                          • Good. But can one of the Repuglycans on the court retire (or choke) already?

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                            • A Republican judge won't retire under Biden, that's for sure. Even when one dies, like under Obama, the Republicans held a replacement off bay.

                              It just reminds me how hugely consequential the 2016 election was. It's disheartening to me. To think we were so close to having a Dem-leaning Supreme Court and to have it all slip away.

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                              • This reminds me that Biden was reviewing expanding the courts. Perhaps this is an opportunity? Not sure if the more moderative dems would go for that, but they certainly should explore it more openly.

                                Anyways, Biden says new justice announcement by the end of February

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                                • Funny how the part that has won the popular vote on the 2 past elections, and with almost 8M votes the last time, is having trouble securing a THIRD seat at the supreme court, out of 9.
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                                  • Originally posted by jordi_89 View Post
                                    Funny how the part that has won the popular vote on the 2 past elections, and with almost 8M votes the last time, is having trouble securing a THIRD seat at the supreme court, out of 9.
                                    It's incredible when you think about it this way. At what point is representative democracy broken such that 8M people's voices are being constrained by a minority?
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                                    • Originally posted by jordi_89 View Post
                                      Funny how the part that has won the popular vote on the 2 past elections, and with almost 8M votes the last time, is having trouble securing a THIRD seat at the supreme court, out of 9.
                                      Democrats have actually won the majority of votes in 7 out of the last 8 presidential elections. In other words: With the exception of 2004, Republicans haven't won an election since the 80s.

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                                      • Originally posted by Rihab View Post

                                        Democrats have actually won the majority of votes in 7 out of the last 8 presidential elections. In other words: With the exception of 2004, Republicans haven't won an election since the 80s.
                                        I didn't even think about the pre-Trump era. The reality is that the US was already screwed even before all those far-right wing demagogues took over the GOP.
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                                        • Originally posted by bm08 View Post

                                          It's incredible when you think about it this way. At what point is representative democracy broken such that 8M people's voices are being constrained by a minority?


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                                          • The undemocratic set-up of the electoral mark-up all negative impact one another. Rural states have outsize power for their populations as a result.

                                            For example, every state gets two representatives in the Senate, regardless of population -so at your extreme you have two people representing 40 million people for California and two people representing about half a million people in Wyoming. And those votes each have the same power - which is why it's so hard for Democrats to retain the Senate.

                                            You take that set-up and pair it with the electoral college (which accounts for population partly, but not quite because every state gets three votes no matter the population) and you've got this feedback loop where the minority has undue influence. In the same example, an electoral vote from California represents about 700K people while an electoral vote for Wyoming represents 280K.

                                            Under Trump, who lost the popular vote, the Democratic senators represented a greater portion of the population than the Republican senators (and still do). And yet Republicans got to pick 1/3 of the Supreme Court.

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                                            • Things would be easier if the US used the D'Hondt method when giving seats to representatives. This "winner takes all" system that some countries use just makes no sense at all.
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                                                • A light in this very dark tunnel.
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                                                  • Originally posted by KEY9481 View Post
                                                    A light in this very dark tunnel.
                                                    I'm just hoping there are no shenanigans to give us any more of a headache
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