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  • So I guess I end up voting for the Greens
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    • Originally posted by KokoCollino
      So I guess I end up voting for the Greens
      The CDU and other parties are greener tho. I wouldn't waste my vote on a party which doesn't even like the environment.
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      • Originally posted by stevyy
        I am a HUGE Gregor Gysi and Sahra Wagenknecht mega-stan. [...]
        when I was at the Bundestag this February, she walked past me, maybe 3 metres away from me. (we had a guide through Bundestag and were in some underground tunnel)

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        • On paper, the FDP looks like the best option to me. There's nothing to be sad about.

          They are against installing new laws concerning the actual terror threat. I agree with Lindner that we already have "enough laws" - We just need to finally make use of them.

          FDP is against storage of data which I fully support, they are in favor of hiring more police officers and introducing more referendums so that values such as democracy, expressions of freedom can be transfered more to the people.

          Also. they are in favor of legalising weed. There's no point of alcohol being legal and a small joint being illegal, tbh (I don't smoke and I have never tried it but it shouldn't be forbidden).

          FDP is in favor of the same-sex marriage. They also demand the right of homosexual people adopting children. Equality all the way.

          They are also in favor of getting rid of the antiquated "Solidaritätszuschlag" and "Grunderwerbsteuer" for families buying a house up to 500,000 Euros.

          The FPD is not evil at all. They are not dangerous.

          Btw, Christian Lidner is one of the best politicans I encountered during my lifetime so far.
          I think he's my number #1 at the moment followed by Sahra Wagenknecht.

          Btw, Wagenknecht supports the Russian annexion of Crimea. That's maybe part of the reason why she is indeed considered as a supporter of Putin's aggression. This has nothing to do with "Putin-Mania". There's nothing right about awarding someone with new and additional territory after he invaded a European country.

          I do agree that Europe needs to find a way to work WITH Russia again. I also agree with Sahra Wagenknecht demanding a defence union of EU and Russia, though. Europe can only continue to be a peaceful continent with Russia's help (which is ironical because the last two wars in Europe happened because of Russia, though). But Russia needs to stop its aggression towards its neighbouring countries first. Then I completely agree.
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          • I just realized i wrote Patrick Lindner... when his name is Christian LIndner... i knew i was off... but i wasn't quite sure by how much. lol

            you need to watch the Heute Show clip about the FDP and Chr. Lindner... it's eye-opening. I am a huge fan of the show and whenever I watch it, i don't see it as satire... i use it to inform myself... because the underlying facts which they dress up as satire are still facts which infuriate me tremendously. I always yell "unwählbar" into my TV in disgust. And I yell the loudest whenever the FDP is exposed for their inhumane ideas. Not all of them may be bad or inhumane... and maybe there is common ground somehwere... but their will to "entfessel" the markets is quite disturbing to me. I mean... i could look the other way because i am a "Beamter" and it doesn't phase me when they want to make the richest richer and poorest poorer... i only think about the future of all ppl... and the FDP is too dangerous to not address critically.
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            • Originally posted by luckyONE
              Originally posted by stevyy
              I am a HUGE Gregor Gysi and Sahra Wagenknecht mega-stan. [...]
              when I was at the Bundestag this February, she walked past me, maybe 3 metres away from me. (we had a guide through Bundestag and were in some underground tunnel)
              i bet she looked incredibly hot in real life. After the Markus Lanz incident, she's become my idol... because I would have beaten the sh!t out of him 3 minutes in.
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              • Originally posted by stevyy
                WE basically have 3 NAZI parties in Germany (CSU / AfD and NPD)
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                • Originally posted by stevyy
                  Originally posted by KokoCollino
                  So I guess I end up voting for the Greens
                  The CDU and other parties are greener tho. I wouldn't waste my vote on a party which doesn't even like the environment.
                  This is bullcrap.
                  But since you didn't even bother to / weren't able to back up your ridiculous claim with evidence, I guess you already knew that.

                  And no, FDP aren't evil.
                  A lot of what they're saying has always made a whole lot of sense to me + out of all the mainstream parties, they usually pick the best and most charismatic leaders (I probably would've voted for Rösler in 2009 if I'd had a vote back then and Lindner seems just as likeable as him).
                  The thing is they've proven to be completely spineless and useless while in government from 2009 to 2013 and they're giving me no reason to believe things would be different this time around. Like I know some of y'all and also some of my real life gay / lesbian friends are mad at SPD.. But seeing the whole picture, it's actually remarkable how much SPD have accomplished while being the junior coalition partner (most notably: finally introducing a minimum wage after the wage dumping of 2009-2013). FDP literally didn't get ANYTHING done during their term. People noticed and rightfully voted them out.
                  So now they're back saying they want to legalize weed, same-sex marriages and whatnot, but not only will they not be able to get CDU to agree to that, they probably wouldn't even stop CDU from undoing the tiny little bit of progress we've made over the past 4 years. I wouldn't be surprised to see them getting rid of the minimum wage, female quotas and anything else that favors employees, just to give some heavy tax breaks to companies and the rich. They literally carry the 'free' market in their name.

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                  • ^ That's why I'm struggling a bit with the FDP although they look the best on paper for me :(

                    Which means there is no real alternative to the Greens ...
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                    • Christian Lindner from FDP said he recommends his party to make marriage equality a requirement for a coalition. Let's see if he means it or just uses the community for headlines. We know there's a reason we can't trust this party ...
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                      • Wait, is FDP like Freie Partei, cuz FPÖ here are the worst, really towards nazi direction.
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                        • Originally posted by Serby
                          Wait, is FDP like Freie Partei, cuz FPÖ here are the worst, really towards nazi direction.
                          No. Free Democratic Party. I think people call it the party for the rich people because they are pro-businesses afaik. They were always the small partner of the CDU in history, just as the Greens are the small partner of the SPD. However the FDP is becoming a little more modern after their spectacular miss of the 5% border in 2013 that kicked them out of the parliament.

                          I'm waiting for Mainshow and Rihab to comment on this.
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                          • Originally posted by Serby
                            Wait, is FDP like Freie Partei, cuz FPÖ here are the worst, really towards nazi direction.
                            Nah, there are two types of 'freie' / 'free' political parties:

                            FDP in Germany (like the Liberal Democrats in the UK, VVD in the Netherlands or NEOS in Austria) are 'free' in the sense of liberty / liberalism (free to say, do, write, pray to, vote for whatever you like). They often support ideas like democracy, equality, open borders, free markets and free trade, while opposing taxes, financial regulations, social welfare, (state-funded) healthcare and surveillance.

                            FPÖ in Austria (like PVV in the Netherlands, UKIP in the UK and AfD in Germany) are 'free' in the sense of freedom / independence (free from the EU, international treaties like the Paris climate agreement or the Geneva convention on refugees, Islam, foreigners).

                            EDIT: Koko is right. Rich People's Party or CDU's B*tch would be more appropriate party names for them.

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                            • You seem very intelligent Rihab. The way you write and stuff
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                              • Originally posted by KokoCollino
                                You seem very intelligent Rihab. The way you write and stuff
                                Thanks, hun. <3

                                To be fair though, I'm halfway through my political science & sociology degree and plan to become a politics teacher later on. I deal with these things every day, so it'd be kinda tragic if I didn't know a little more about them than the average citizen.

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                                • Originally posted by KokoCollino
                                  You seem very intelligent Rihab. The way you write and stuff

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                                  • Originally posted by Rihab
                                    Originally posted by KokoCollino
                                    You seem very intelligent Rihab. The way you write and stuff
                                    Thanks, hun. <3

                                    To be fair though, I'm halfway through my political science & sociology degree and plan to become a politics teacher later on. I deal with these things every day, so it'd be kinda tragic if I didn't know a little more about them than the average citizen.
                                    Wow that's of great value for us here though! And you'll be an amazing teacher I'm sure
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                                    • So with 7 weeks to go until the election, the Green Party has finally put up like 5 posters across my university campus! I suppose that's the closest we'll get to an election campaign this year..? Tragic! :-?

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                                      • Originally posted by Rihab
                                        So with 7 weeks to go until the election, the Green Party has finally put up like 5 posters across my university campus! I suppose that's the closest we'll get to an election campaign this year..? Tragic! :-?
                                        well they dont have any content... so what shud they be promoting?

                                        the CDU is all the party Germany needs... they are conservative-yet-social-yet-environmental-yet-liberal and with the inclusion of the CSU kind of national-socialist.

                                        They have it all + Miss Merkel - Germany's best woman, look at her smile.
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                                        • Honestly, this is the most unexciting election campaign ever. Why are we the only major country who can't even get a Wikileak to spice things up a little? :(

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                                          • Originally posted by Rihab
                                            Honestly, this is the most unexciting election campaign ever. Why are we the only major country who can't even get a Wikileak to spice things up a little? :(
                                            It gets more and more boring each time, and always the same result in the end
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                                            • Originally posted by KokoCollino
                                              So I guess I end up voting for the Greens
                                              Every vote against Merkel is a vote for the AFD.
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                                              • Originally posted by joiPrince_JO
                                                Originally posted by KokoCollino
                                                So I guess I end up voting for the Greens
                                                Every vote against Merkel is a vote for the AFD.
                                                What.

                                                This isn't the UK or America where you only get to choose between two parties / candidates.

                                                Because of our electoral system, it is virtually impossible to win an overall majority in parliament. So whichever major party 'wins' the election (Merkel's conservatives or Schulz's social democrats) will still need to form a coalition with at least one or possibly two minor parties (greens, socialists or liberals). So no, a vote for a minor party is not a wasted vote and definitely not a vote for the AFD.

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                                                • Thank Godney, it's over soon. I can't stand Merkel's voice on Spotify anymore
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                                                  • Originally posted by joiPrince_JO
                                                    Originally posted by KokoCollino
                                                    So I guess I end up voting for the Greens
                                                    Every vote against Merkel is a vote for the AFD.
                                                    Every vote should be green. Others are political bs.
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