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  • #51
    Who do you guys think will win??

    I'm not sure, I'd like Merkel to stay. But my hope might change after all the nominees are announced, but doesn't matter, Im not in Germany
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    • #52
      this will be the result, please bookmark:

      CDU/CSU: 33,7%
      SPD: 23,3%
      AfD: 14,9%
      Greens: 9,3%
      Linke: 9,1%
      FDP: 6,2%
      Others: 3,5%

      Merkel will do it with the Greens and FDP = 49,2%
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      • #53
        Originally posted by stevyy
        this will be the result, please bookmark:

        CDU/CSU: 33,7%
        SPD: 23,3%
        AfD: 14,9%
        Greens: 9,3%
        Linke: 9,1%
        FDP: 6,2%
        Others: 3,5%

        Merkel will do it with the Greens and FDP = 49,2%
        yeah, this looks likely except for a black-green-yellow coalition

        it'll be a grand coalition once again

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Rihab

          yeah, this looks likely except for a black-green-yellow coalition

          it'll be a grand coalition once again
          it would be the final nail in the coffin for the SPD... and that party survived the NSDAP.. but it will not survive another great coalition.

          but maybe it'll sacrifice itself to stop Chancellor Petry from happening. I swear if she ever gets into any governmental responsibility i will migrate. Bkörn Hoecke is / will be worse than Hitler.
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          • #55
            Originally posted by stevyy
            Originally posted by Rihab

            yeah, this looks likely except for a black-green-yellow coalition

            it'll be a grand coalition once again
            it would be the final nail in the coffin for the SPD... and that party survived the NSDAP.. but it will not survive another great coalition.

            but maybe it'll sacrifice itself to stop Chancellor Petry from happening. I swear if she ever gets into any governmental responsibility i will migrate. Bkörn Hoecke is / will be worse than Hitler.
            As in for a while Germany will be having a great time while the rest of Europe will be suffering followed by a big disaster for Germany itself?
            jio CHARTS NOW: 12/10/2021: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...5#post10765535

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            • #56
              Originally posted by stevyy
              Originally posted by Rihab

              yeah, this looks likely except for a black-green-yellow coalition

              it'll be a grand coalition once again
              it would be the final nail in the coffin for the SPD... and that party survived the NSDAP.. but it will not survive another great coalition.

              but maybe it'll sacrifice itself to stop Chancellor Petry from happening. I swear if she ever gets into any governmental responsibility i will migrate. Bkörn Hoecke is / will be worse than Hitler.
              How any German could say that is beyond me.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by MrDiva

                How any German could say that is beyond me.

                I don't know, it is discussed now that due to his FAR FAR (Nazi) right views he is stripped of his ablity to teach history at schools (he was a history teacher before becoming the new interim Goebbels).

                Björn has already said in one of his rallyes that he pities that we don't have any concentration camps that we could use for the refugees.. like he would re-activate Dachau or Buchenwald to house refugees.. That man needs to be jailed and the AfD needs to be forbitten before they really do threaten our democracy.

                In addition to his regrets of not having operating Concentration Camps anymore he also said that Africans are breeders and that they would have certain genes that would allow Africans to reproduce faster than Caucasians.

                I mean if you - after all of this - think he's not kinda just like Hitler then idk.

                Björn Hoecke makes Marine Le Pen look like Mother Teresa.
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                • #58
                  Sorry to burst your bubble but you actually do have concentration camps for the refugees, created by the EU-Turkish deal, Mrs Merkel negotiated and the whole EU (my country included) happily accepted. The fact that those camps are not located on German soil does not really mean much.
                  jio CHARTS NOW: 12/10/2021: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...5#post10765535

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                  • #59
                    I am sure that Merkel will win again, sadly :/

                    I am glad the Greens chose Özdemir, but I really don't like Göring

                    I don't know which party to vote for honestly :/
                    I am not trying to seduce you... Would you like me to seduce you? Is that what you're trying to tell me?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by jio
                      Sorry to burst your bubble but you actually do have concentration camps for the refugees, created by the EU-Turkish deal, Mrs Merkel negotiated and the whole EU (my country included) happily accepted. The fact that those camps are not located on German soil does not really mean much.
                      he was talking about a special type of concentration camp tho... not just an area where you "concentrate" people.
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                      • #61
                        Originally posted by Erotica
                        I am sure that Merkel will win again, sadly :/

                        I am glad the Greens chose Özdemir, but I really don't like Göring

                        I don't know which party to vote for honestly :/
                        Göring is such an insecure c'nt. I mean the way she tries to put Sahra Wagenknecht in the AfD corner is kinda pathetic. The Greens have done so much bad when they governed with the SPD a decade+ ago. They lost their profile just as much as the SPD.
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                        • #62
                          Originally posted by stevyy
                          Originally posted by jio
                          Sorry to burst your bubble but you actually do have concentration camps for the refugees, created by the EU-Turkish deal, Mrs Merkel negotiated and the whole EU (my country included) happily accepted. The fact that those camps are not located on German soil does not really mean much.
                          he was talking about a special type of concentration camp tho... not just an area where you "concentrate" people.
                          Well I don't know what's the difference... the symbolism of the place? I am pretty sure he wasn't talking about concentrating them in order to kill them. So that aside, we do have EU-created places where the refugees are concentrated without full access to any of the rights granted to them by international law and from where it's physically impossible to escape. We also do have the threat of death and physical violence in case they do attempt to escape in place. We also have thousands of deaths (about 4000 for 2016 alone) dying for what is essentially a racist reason.

                          Sure,that is not Hitler-level or even Syria-level horror (not even close) but I can't imagine that guy suggesting anything much different than what we already have created us, the union of civilized nations.
                          jio CHARTS NOW: 12/10/2021: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...5#post10765535

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                          • #63
                            Thanks stevvy for your prediction

                            It seems worldwide, elections are getting more divisive and people don't even know who to choose. It probably has just always been this way, and I'm losing my mind
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                            • #64
                              Originally posted by jio
                              Originally posted by stevyy
                              Originally posted by jio
                              Sorry to burst your bubble but you actually do have concentration camps for the refugees, created by the EU-Turkish deal, Mrs Merkel negotiated and the whole EU (my country included) happily accepted. The fact that those camps are not located on German soil does not really mean much.
                              he was talking about a special type of concentration camp tho... not just an area where you "concentrate" people.
                              Well I don't know what's the difference... the symbolism of the place? I am pretty sure he wasn't talking about concentrating them in order to kill them. So that aside, we do have EU-created places where the refugees are concentrated without full access to any of the rights granted to them by international law and from where it's physically impossible to escape. We also do have the threat of death and physical violence in case they do attempt to escape in place. We also have thousands of deaths (about 4000 for 2016 alone) dying for what is essentially a racist reason.

                              Sure,that is not Hitler-level or even Syria-level horror (not even close) but I can't imagine that guy suggesting anything much different than what we already have created us, the union of civilized nations.
                              it may be hard to understand but the term concentration camp cannot be used in Germany due to the connotations with the word, using it in a political context also uses all the connotations associated with the term, thence Björn Hoecke is mentally ill
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                              • #65
                                Originally posted by stevyy
                                Originally posted by jio
                                Originally posted by stevyy
                                Originally posted by jio
                                Sorry to burst your bubble but you actually do have concentration camps for the refugees, created by the EU-Turkish deal, Mrs Merkel negotiated and the whole EU (my country included) happily accepted. The fact that those camps are not located on German soil does not really mean much.
                                he was talking about a special type of concentration camp tho... not just an area where you "concentrate" people.
                                Well I don't know what's the difference... the symbolism of the place? I am pretty sure he wasn't talking about concentrating them in order to kill them. So that aside, we do have EU-created places where the refugees are concentrated without full access to any of the rights granted to them by international law and from where it's physically impossible to escape. We also do have the threat of death and physical violence in case they do attempt to escape in place. We also have thousands of deaths (about 4000 for 2016 alone) dying for what is essentially a racist reason.

                                Sure,that is not Hitler-level or even Syria-level horror (not even close) but I can't imagine that guy suggesting anything much different than what we already have created us, the union of civilized nations.
                                it may be hard to understand but the term concentration camp cannot be used in Germany due to the connotations with the word, using it in a political context also uses all the connotations associated with the term, thence Björn Hoecke is mentally ill
                                OK so the crucial difference is just of symbolism and terminology. Well, what if we define the term "concentration camp for refugees" (in the negative sense) and try to see if there is any difference between that and the current EU preferred term which is "hot spot"? I am sure you will struggle to come up with any real difference. And if there is no real difference, maybe calling things exactly what they are instead of using confusing fancy terms may be beneficial in waking up people at least. Everything has its value.
                                jio CHARTS NOW: 12/10/2021: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...5#post10765535

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                                • #66
                                  Doesn't Stevvy mean a camp of concentrated people, created to kill them?
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                                  • #67
                                    Concentration camp is (almost) a synonym for straight up death camps in Germany so he has a point

                                    It's just one of those words. Just like 'leader'. You just cannot use them in Germany unless it is in a nazi context

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                                    • #68
                                      Originally posted by Crackiswack
                                      Thanks stevvy for your prediction

                                      It seems worldwide, elections are getting more divisive and people don't even know who to choose. It probably has just always been this way, and I'm losing my mind
                                      I don't think this election is anywhere near as divisive as the US, UK, French or Austrian ones. The reason I and many other people don't know who to vote for is because social democrats, greens and socialists are literally all the same and Merkel isn't that different either (she doesn't like gay people but that's about it).

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                                      • #69
                                        Originally posted by Rihab
                                        Originally posted by Crackiswack
                                        Thanks stevvy for your prediction

                                        It seems worldwide, elections are getting more divisive and people don't even know who to choose. It probably has just always been this way, and I'm losing my mind
                                        I don't think this election is anywhere near as divisive as the US, UK, French or Austrian ones. The reason I and many other people don't know who to vote for is because social democrats, greens and socialists are literally all the same and Merkel isn't that different either (she doesn't like gay people but that's about it).

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                                        • #70
                                          Tgats not too bad of a situation then, is it?
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                                          • #71
                                            For the country as a whole, I guess it really isn't 'too bad' of a situation. But for anyone who thinks it's time for change after 12 years of the same, it's really frustrating.

                                            Merkel has created a situation in which she is literally 'alternativlos' (the only choice) within her own party and in which her party is 'alternativlos' when it comes to picking the chancellor. Anyone from her own party who was once seen as a potential threat is either too old to seriously be considered for chancellor now (Schäuble, Kauder), Bavarian and thus disliked in 15 out of 16 states (Seehofer), universally disliked (von der Leyen), just lost a major state election (Klöckner, McAllister), gay and thus unelectable for a Christian conservative party (Spahn) or miraculously ended up in a major scandal that ended their career (Wulff, zu Guttenberg).
                                            And by opening our borders and letting in all those refugees, she basically made sure a right-wing party would enter parliament, which increases the total number of parties in parliament to 6, which makes it almost impossible to form a government without her. I gave up hope of us ever getting rid of her.

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                                            • #72
                                              Allow all eurozone to vote in the German elections (since it's your finance minister who governs us anyway) and Merkel would be gone in a split second lol.
                                              jio CHARTS NOW: 12/10/2021: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...5#post10765535

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                                              • #73
                                                Originally posted by jio
                                                Allow all eurozone to vote in the German elections (since it's your finance minister who governs us anyway) and Merkel would be gone in a split second lol.
                                                i wouldn't be too sure about that, because Angela may be more popular than you think. Schäuble, however, not only looks like rotting corpse, he's also Satan in spirit. How that dude is still in office is beyond me.
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                                                • #74
                                                  Originally posted by stevyy
                                                  Originally posted by jio
                                                  Allow all eurozone to vote in the German elections (since it's your finance minister who governs us anyway) and Merkel would be gone in a split second lol.
                                                  i wouldn't be too sure about that, because Angela may be more popular than you think. Schäuble, however, not only looks like rotting corpse, he's also Satan in spirit. How that dude is still in office is beyond me.
                                                  I wouldn't be too sure about anything. And I guess if all eurozone would vote in the german elections, Merkel would find a way to appeal to all the eurozone, she is a skilled politician after all... I was just joking.
                                                  jio CHARTS NOW: 12/10/2021: https://www.ukmix.org/forum/chart-di...5#post10765535

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                                                  • #75
                                                    Originally posted by MrDiva
                                                    Originally posted by Rihab
                                                    Originally posted by Crackiswack
                                                    Thanks stevvy for your prediction

                                                    It seems worldwide, elections are getting more divisive and people don't even know who to choose. It probably has just always been this way, and I'm losing my mind
                                                    I don't think this election is anywhere near as divisive as the US, UK, French or Austrian ones. The reason I and many other people don't know who to vote for is because social democrats, greens and socialists are literally all the same and Merkel isn't that different either (she doesn't like gay people but that's about it).
                                                    This.

                                                    I've been saying this for weeks or even months now.

                                                    We are complaining about Americans and their two party system while our own political landscape looks pretty much the same right now.

                                                    IF people want to make a difference, they should vote for DIE LINKE or FDP, tbh.
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