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  • Rihab
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    Does Ukmix want to talk about the upcoming state elections in Bavaria (tomorrow) and Hessen (Oct. 28)?

    The latest polls:



    Bavaria:

    Bavarian conservatives
    34% (-14), Social Democrats 12% (-9), Bavarian Free Voters 10% (+1), Greens 19% (+10), Liberals 5,5% (+3), Socialists 4% (+2), AfD 10% (+10).



    Hessen:

    Conservatives 28,5% (-10), Social Democrats 25% (-6), Greens 18 (+7), Liberals 5,5% (+0,5), Socialists 7,5% (+2,5), AfD 12% (+8).
    Of course, results like these would also have major implications for the federal government in Berlin (a 'grand coalition' between Merkel's conservatives, Bavaria's conservatives and social democrats).

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  • jio
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    Re: Germany: Merkel‘s government collapsing(?)

    The specific policy you mention has just been adopted by the EU as a whole along with other great goodies such as human trading (you take my refugees and I give you money, criminalization of providing help to refugee boats and so on). Which is the tragedy of all this that the extreme right is constantly been prevented coming to power by right wing governments adopting its policies. The latest deal on the refugees is nothing short than criminal IMO

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  • Rihab
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    Originally posted by heppolo
    Originally posted by Rihab
    You guys are giving AfD way too much credit. Merkel is the sole reason for their existence, Gauland even called Merkel their 'life insurance' recently. With her gone, they'd fade into obscurity UKIP-style.
    UKIP didn't fade completely, they infiltrated Tories in a certain way (esp. ideologically)
    Yeah, the same can already be observed here. The adoption of more and more AfD policies such as closing the border and keeping refugees locked away in 'anchor centres' (modern-day concentration camps) by the CSU (Merkel's Bavarian coalition partner) is what has led to this coalition crisis.

    Sooner or later, conservative hardliners will inevitably also take over Merkel's CDU. She's working hard to prevent this by positioning some Theresa Mays (Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer and Ursula von der Leyen) as her successors, but everyone knows it's just a matter of time until Boris Johnson (Jens Spahn) kills them off.

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  • heppolo
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    Originally posted by Rihab
    You guys are giving AfD way too much credit. Merkel is the sole reason for their existence, Gauland even called Merkel their 'life insurance' recently. With her gone, they'd fade into obscurity UKIP-style.
    UKIP didn't fade completely, they infiltrated Tories in a certain way (esp. ideologically)

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  • Rihab
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    You guys are giving AfD way too much credit. Merkel is the sole reason for their existence, Gauland even called Merkel their 'life insurance' recently. With her gone, they'd fade into obscurity UKIP-style.

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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by Rihab
    To be honest, at this point I hope the CSU pulls out of the coalition and out of the union. The country needs a fresh start with new faces and new elections. It's clear that we can't go on like this for much longer, let alone until 2021. The first 100 days of this government have been the messiest in the history of the republic, imagine the next 3 1/2 years!
    new elections would push the AfD to second place as the second strongest party. There won't be a new government because it would take CDU, SPD, Linke, Greens and FDP for a coalition.

    the outcome would be:

    26,7% - CDU
    21,2% - AfD
    16,4% - SPD
    9,4% - Green
    8,0% - Linke
    7,5% - CSU
    7,4% - FDP
    3,4% - Other

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  • heppolo
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    Originally posted by Rihab
    The country needs a fresh start with new faces and new elections.
    Provided by AfD.

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  • Erotica
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    Problem is that CDU will always have the most votes, and AfD too many also

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  • Rihab
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    To be honest, at this point I hope the CSU pulls out of the coalition and out of the union. The country needs a fresh start with new faces and new elections. It's clear that we can't go on like this for much longer, let alone until 2021. The first 100 days of this government have been the messiest in the history of the republic, imagine the next 3 1/2 years!

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  • LOVE+FEAR
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    Originally posted by Rihab
    Originally posted by KokoCollino
    I don't know what was more thrilling, watching the penalties or reading the multiple news tickers on my phone. Some politicians were live in Anne Will's talk and got the news with Seehofer during the show
    Göring-Eckardt almost fell off her chair and so did I.
    I found it funny that Anne Will asked "from what is he actually stepping back?"

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  • LOVE+FEAR
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    Re: Germany: Merkel‘s government collapsing

    It looks like the CSU tries to keep Seehofer from leaving.

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  • stevyy
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    i hope mama Merkel survives this. I'm not ready for the 4th Reich + jewish and gay... I will be gased by the AfD the second Angie steps down.

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  • Rihab
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    Originally posted by KokoCollino
    I don't know what was more thrilling, watching the penalties or reading the multiple news tickers on my phone. Some politicians were live in Anne Will's talk and got the news with Seehofer during the show
    Göring-Eckardt almost fell off her chair and so did I.

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  • Erotica
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    What a mess

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  • LOVE+FEAR
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    Re: Germany: Merkel‘s government collapsing

    OMG so after Seehofer's statement, Merkel and Seehofer will talk and then there will be another press conference. I won't get sleep tonight

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  • LOVE+FEAR
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    Re: Germany: Merkel‘s government collapsing

    I wonder if Seehofer offering to leave is just a stunt so that the CSU has a good reason to leave the coalition.

    It's all a big mess. CSU

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  • LOVE+FEAR
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    I don't know what was more thrilling, watching the penalties or reading the multiple news tickers on my phone. Some politicians were live in Anne Will's talk and got the news with Seehofer during the show

    Now can they please do the press conference like NOW, I need to go to bed

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  • Rihab
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    Interior minister Seehofer is out + rumors about the CSU ending the coalition.

    Source coming soon.

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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by flopho
    I'd prefer dead Merkel over Nahles and Klöckner tbh
    ! or Steinmeier takes over. <3

    president and chancellor... oh wait...

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  • flopho
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    I'd prefer dead Merkel over Nahles and Klöckner tbh

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  • Rihab
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    Originally posted by Erotica
    Well but the mentioned alternatives aren't better :-?
    Better at doing what?

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  • Erotica
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    Well but the mentioned alternatives aren't better :-?

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  • Rihab
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    Originally posted by BeeBoy
    Problem is that there is no existing alternative right now.
    Ugh, why do I keep reading this nonsensical argument everywhere?

    Let's say Merkel dies tomorrow. Do you actually believe that no one would be able to replace her? That Germany would go on without a leader until a new chancellor is born to a virgin named Mary during a cold December night or something?

    There are approximately 82 Million alternatives to Merkel in this country, one of them just needs to be given the opportunity to prove themselves. I bet Kramp-Karrenbauer, Spahn, Klöckner, Von der Leyen, Scholz, Nahles and a few others would all be willing to take over and they're just as if not more qualified than Merkel to do the job. Of course they lack her experience and her international reputation right now, but chancellors can't be expected to have those when they first take office, they gain them through the years. When Merkel became chancellor in 2005, she was basically just a trained physicist with a seat in parliament. If we continue to re-elect her because there's 'no alternative' with her level of experience, none of the alternatives will ever gain her level of experience.

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  • BeeBoy
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    Problem is that there is no existing alternative right now. No one is able to step up and take her spot and as long the CDU remains the strongest party in the country, that Angie reign won't let up..

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  • aRat
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    Angela is a homophonic biatch. She single-handedly held gay marrige back in Germany until literally the whole country had to convince her that they want gay marriage.

    Also her party seems to be able to focus on only one issue at a time and leave everything else hanging. Like girl don't yall have different departments in your christian party? They literally left everything else to rot (especially social issues) during the financial crisis and only focused on their damn "Sparmaßnahmen". Never heard of multi-tasking?

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