German Politics

[heppolo]

^Big Afd Brother with the surveillance state fully in place

[stevyy]

Here, Erdogan supporters are happy because they think it's because of Erdogan, Merkel lost votes. I can't at dumbness of some people

They won't enjoy Merkel this time around... because in season 4 she is going to take down a dictator... not sure which one yet... but I cannot wait to find that out in the Merkel series finale, due 2021.

12 years running and her ratings are still top notch. I hope season 4 gives us some more epic moments.

The gay marriage season finale 2017 was quite my favourite moment so far. My second fave moment was when they introduce the character of Emmanuel Macron - her new love interest... I want babies in this season.

I hope she does Big Brother in 2022.

[spiritboy]

Here, Erdogan supporters are happy because they think it's because of Erdogan, Merkel lost votes. I can't at dumbness of some people

[Artoo]

The rise of the right in so many countries around the world is astounding. It’s like everyone is saying ‘let’s just look after ourselves for a bit’.

In Germany, it is a bit different though.
There are people who might be racist and right but usually, Germany faces less radicalism than other European countries.

Our former conservative party CDU (Merkel's party) just turned more and more socialist and a bit green so that conservative voters basically had to decide to vote for the new CDU or a more conservative (to right-wing) party. I mean, the most voters of AfD were fromer non- or CDU voters.
And they were the only ones who criticsed Merkel because of the refugee crisis "somehow successfully.. at least kinda loud" but thankfully, Die Linke and FDP - so left and liberal parties - are not in favor of everything how it was and is handled and personally, I think that having those two parties in the opposition and SPD defining themselves again and a CDU which gets slightly more conservative and AfD sabotaging themselves (it has already started) will cause that in 4 years, the results will be more balanced again and the AfD doesn't get 10+% again.

It’s sort of the same thing we faced here in the UK - our Conservative Party (in power) is from the right, but had to tone down, modernise and move a bit to the centre in order to win an election. But since that happened the BNP (British Nationalist Party) which is a more extreme party, gained a footing.

Despite an increase in votes for them they never gained any power in parliament. But, they campaigned hard for a Brexit vote during their campaigns - which they got and ultimately were victorious.

The BNP has died down now and probably will never gain any real traction ever again. But for a while there it was scary to know people were listening and agreeing.

[Mainshow]

The rise of the right in so many countries around the world is astounding. It’s like everyone is saying ‘let’s just look after ourselves for a bit’.

In Germany, it is a bit different though.
There are people who might be racist and right but usually, Germany faces less radicalism than other European countries.

Our former conservative party CDU (Merkel's party) just turned more and more socialist and a bit green so that conservative voters basically had to decide to vote for the new CDU or a more conservative (to right-wing) party. I mean, the most voters of AfD were fromer non- or CDU voters.
And they were the only ones who criticsed Merkel because of the refugee crisis "somehow successfully.. at least kinda loud" but thankfully, Die Linke and FDP - so left and liberal parties - are not in favor of everything how it was and is handled and personally, I think that having those two parties in the opposition and SPD defining themselves again and a CDU which gets slightly more conservative and AfD sabotaging themselves (it has already started) will cause that in 4 years, the results will be more balanced again and the AfD doesn't get 10+% again.

[Mainshow]

excellent vote for SDP, i love their song "Ne Leiche"!

haha OMG xD Post of the day

[Artoo]

The rise of the right in so many countries around the world is astounding. It’s like everyone is saying ‘let’s just look after ourselves for a bit’.

[flopho]

excellent vote for SDP, i love their song "Ne Leiche"!

[Mainshow]

I never voted in my life.
My wife too.

Its the first time for us.
SDP (1st) and AFD (2nd).

I dont believe anything better will happen the next years.
Merkel did a huge mistake with letting all those people vome to our country i think.

Disappointing to read - all of it

Is it?

They didn't vote AfD with their first vote that means that they still have faith in other democratic parties and they weren't part of SPD's misery.
Also, it's always good when people start voting even though we might not agree with their views.

Also, Merkel made a mistake. She let people in without having a plan at first, without being d'accord with other European members etc. That is basically the main reason why AfD got votes. If the crisis is over, AfD will lose votes again and I am sure it's likely they will be out of the Bundestag again.
There are other European countries which vote way more right-wing when Germany did yesterday and I ike it that criticsm is levelled but people should not panic, tbh.
AfD is already sabotaging themseleves since Petry refused to be part of the party in the Bundestag and now, Geeman people can see the true colours of AfD when they are in the Bundestag. Apart from the refugee/migrant crisis, they have no real concept and also have different views among its members. Weidel, for example, is far away from Gauland and Co.

Anyway.

I am happy thay the liberals are back and that Die Linke was stable and could even improve! I just hope FDP will stay in the opposition.

[LongingHeart]

^not really surprising tbh.

Well yeah what can I say ...

[MrDiva]

I never voted in my life.
My wife too.

Its the first time for us.
SDP (1st) and AFD (2nd).

I dont believe anything better will happen the next years.
Merkel did a huge mistake with letting all those people vome to our country i think.

Disappointing to read - all of it

[jochen]

I never voted in my life.
My wife too.

Its the first time for us.
SDP (1st) and AFD (2nd).

I dont believe anything better will happen the next years.
Merkel did a huge mistake with letting all those people vome to our country i think.

[Mainshow]

I am not that surprised about the results

Me neither.

Nothing is surprising, tbh.

I am a bit suprised that SPD got way less votes than expected and I am surprised about the Greens and FDP (but I am happy about their results + Die Linke) and honestly, AfD's result isn't surprising either. For months now, we knew that they would make it and get more than 10%.

I am curious to see how these results will turn out and how it's goin' to be possible for Merkel ( ) to form a government. People didn't want FDP to rule with them (otherwise they would have made the Bundestag last time) and people clearly disliked the GroKo (CDU+SPD) heavily & Schulz already said that he will not be part of the upcoming/future government.

[Erotica]

I am not that surprised about the results

[MrDiva]

Frauke wants to become chancellor by 2021 so that she can industrially murder people like you and me, mrdiva.

I've never felt so threatened in my lifetime... jewish and gay... the afd is going to make furniture out of my skin and soap out of my bones. god help us all.

I DO know that
The second the wind blows too strongly here, im out of here

That the german people willingly vote for these people is the worst

[stevyy]

Frauke wants to become chancellor by 2021 so that she can industrially murder people like you and me, mrdiva.

I've never felt so threatened in my lifetime... jewish and gay... the afd is going to make furniture out of my skin and soap out of my bones. god help us all.

[MrDiva]

It's the people's prerogative to vote for right wing parties
The results show what the german people wants for the future
The next four years will be extremely interesting and challenging.

[stevyy]

The former GDR folks have voted a Nazi party into the parliament... god, how I wish back the 2 nations solution.

they like communist extremes as well

they are beyond demented... like republican voters in america or ukip voters.

they are old, teethless, brainless, low-lives, who drool over RTL shows.

[heppolo]

The former GDR folks have voted a Nazi party into the parliament... god, how I wish back the 2 nations solution.

they like communist extremes as well

[stevyy]

The former GDR folks have voted a Nazi party into the parliament... god, how I wish back the 2 nations solution.

[Wayne]

Germany election: Merkel wins fourth term, exit polls say

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been re-elected for a fourth term in federal elections, exit polls suggest.

Her conservative CDU/CSU alliance has won 32.5% of the vote, remaining the largest party in Germany's parliament, according to the ARD poll.

Its coalition partner, the social democratic SPD, has gained 20%.

Meanwhile, the AfD, a right-wing nationalist, anti-Islam party, was on track to win 13.5%, emerging as Germany's third-strongest party.

Addressing supporters, Mrs Merkel said she hoped for a "better result" and talked about "extraordinary challenges".
S
he added that she would listen to the "concerns and anxieties" of AfD voters in other to regain them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe- ... ws_central

[flopho]

^^
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(although this doesn't say anything about the parties if that's what you meant)

[heppolo]

So I guess I end up voting for the Greens

Every vote against Merkel is a vote for the AFD.

Every vote should be green. Others are political bs.

this is so random lmao. I'm not actually sure if i am understanding it correctly, so you mean everyone should vote for the Greens? Like whole Germany?

Not only in Germany, but everywhere, whenever you see green, you should vote immidiately. No questions asked

[LOVE+FEAR]

So I guess I end up voting for the Greens

Every vote against Merkel is a vote for the AFD.

What.

This isn't the UK or America where you only get to choose between two parties / candidates.

Because of our electoral system, it is virtually impossible to win an overall majority in parliament. So whichever major party 'wins' the election (Merkel's conservatives or Schulz's social democrats) will still need to form a coalition with at least one or possibly two minor parties (greens, socialists or liberals). So no, a vote for a minor party is not a wasted vote and definitely not a vote for the AFD.

Thanks Rihab. Came here in the middle of my holidays and was like WTF.

[flopho]

So I guess I end up voting for the Greens

Every vote against Merkel is a vote for the AFD.

Every vote should be green. Others are political bs.

this is so random lmao. I'm not actually sure if i am understanding it correctly, so you mean everyone should vote for the Greens? Like whole Germany?