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  • #31
    Originally posted by aRat View Post
    omg the comments are tragically disgusting. Why are these trash people even following queen of gheys Dual Legend?
    I'm loving her post and it's very brave of her to post this. Albanians don't look at homosexuality in a positive manner at all.

    And joao is mixing up things heavily.

    Originally posted by joao View Post
    The whole concept of a person "being gay" (as a public identity) is a recent western invention.
    No dude. Being gay isn't a recent western invention. Nobody invented gays. Being comfortable with ones identity and being able to publicly announce it might be the easiest to do currently in western culture, but gay people didn't become invented recently. Such a retarded thing to say. And your whole post is full of similar delusions and wrong connections between what's being discussed.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by beredy View Post
      I'm loving her post and it's very brave of her to post this. Albanians don't look at homosexuality in a positive manner at all.
      How do you know they are only albanians? The comments and usernames seem all over the place. Also I am pretty sure homosexuality is legeal in both Kosovo and Albania and IIRC they even have civil unions in one of those two.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by aRat View Post
        How do you know they are only albanians? The comments and usernames seem all over the place. Also I am pretty sure homosexuality is legeal in both Kosovo and Albania and IIRC they even have civil unions in one of those two.
        I'm not saying they're all Albanians (bcs they're obviously not), but it wouldn't be the first time she attracts Albanian trolls (and she is mostly hated by the Serbs who don't need much to attack her, just remember the eagle thing). Also law is one thing, but the practice there is... Lacking. Let's just say that.

        Back in Yugoslavia, homosexuality was decriminalized in 1977 but only in Croatia, Slovenia, Monte Negro and Vojvodina (autonomous part of Serbia). It took until mid 90's for Serbia and B&H to follow the suit (and a lot of it was political trade, not real interest in human rights. Albania (and Kosovo) is much closer to Serbia and B&H when it comes to LGBT. Nominally it's OK, but the practice is much much much worse than in Croatia/Slovenia/Monte Negro (where things are slowly getting better and there's more tolerance and LGBT related activities, but still far from perfect).
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        • #34
          Actually, to my best knoweldge, sex between two women was always legal in Yugoslavia, only the sex between men was illegal.
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          • #35
            [MENTION=65100]aRat[/MENTION] loads of comments in Albanian are there tho. And sis, laws mean shit in Balkan. Public in general is still very homophobic.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by Serby View Post
              Actually, to my best knoweldge, sex between two women was always legal in Yugoslavia, only the sex between men was illegal.
              The sex between two women was legally looked at as a misdemeanor, while sex between two men was processed under criminal law.

              You can see here that even some lesbians were charged, even though the majority were men indeed.
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              • #37
                Is there some way I could donate money to help these people? Actually any gay person in one of these deplorable places? I feel like signing this wonít help in any way. I agree with urbanmusik, Iím sick of religion being used in this way and with people getting away with such barbaric behaviour.

                Can you imagine how terrified these people must feel? Canít even comprehend...it makes me so mad and the mind boggles that this goes on today.
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                • #38
                  Imo the best way to donate money is to give it to some reputable LGBTQ+ organisation led by the locals or from the region, this way the you know money will be spent responsibly and efficiently. Will look up if you want!
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by thankfulforkelly
                    The call to boycott these boujee hotels is ridiculous and seems like celebrities being out of touch with society. Like the GP were gonna go to any of these luxury hotels anyway (I certainly wonít be with the £9 in my current account lmao)
                    Some of those hotels arenít as expensive as you think though, I mean from the list Iíve stayed at Principe Di Savoia in Milan, itís def not for people on a budget but not a celebrity only hotel either..

                    Anyway I have mixed feelings. Yes, itís good that something is being done...but in the end boycotting these hotels in the US and European countries will only affect the workers there, some of which might really need the $ they make there.

                    Also, itís a bit silly in the way that people seem out of touch with the fact that many other countries already have this law were homosexuality can be punished by death. The UAE for example, but I donít see people boycotting Dubai...and many people will soon be booking their hotels in Qatar for the World Cup, another country with such law...and doesnít Qatar own like over half of London now? Even The Shard is theirs. No one is boycotting hotels owned/mostly owned by them...
                    So although itís good something is being done, itís silly when you look at the big scale and the reality of where this exists..
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                    • #40
                      Yes there’s contradictory messages going around, but I think it’s the fact that this is happening now and is such a backward step to take. It’s one thing to have always had the law, but something entirely different to create it in 2019. Boycotting the hotels directly impacts those in a position to influence or change the laws. Yes, the hotels have staff and if they lose their jobs it’s sad for them, but look at the alternative - actively supporting people that endorse the murder of people for simply being gay.
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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Wayne View Post
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                        • #42
                          The Sultan has relented to international pressure and said that gay people will no longer face the death penalty in Brunei - they will however continue to face imprisonment and torture.

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                          • #43
                            Wow what a step forward.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Wayne View Post
                              The Sultan has relented to international pressure and said that gay people will no longer face the death penalty in Brunei - they will however continue to face imprisonment and torture.
                              Not even sure this is much better.
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                              • #45
                                One (very) small step for mankind.

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                                • #46
                                  https://www.ukmix.org/showthread.php...80#post7046080

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                                  • #47
                                    Yeah, this is barely any progress and as someone said, rich Hollywood people can now go unboycott the hotels etc
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