Mariah Carey

[itsawrap]

Whenever you call with Brian Mcknight is her BEST copy and paste remix!!!! The vocals and production are seamless, you would've thought it was the original.

[itsawrap]

What Mariah songs have you listened to so far today.

I am free
whenever you call with brian mcknight
betcha gon know
all my life
fly like a bird
we belong together
all in your mind
my all- classic radio club mix
i wish you well
side effects
stay long love you

[CasualFlow]

I think some of you are picky and scrutinize a lot regarding vocals, which is ok, its taste. I can notice post production effects on vocals as well, because after being a Mariah fan for over 30 years i can tell, but for me its not something that bothers me, i dont think is overly done. I also dont think its Mariah choice but producers and people from labels who might want an especific sound.

Yeah. This captures my opinion well. I do want to go back and listen to some of the examples cited.

[CasualFlow]

What Mariah songs have you listened to so far today.

I am free
whenever you call with brian mcknight
betcha gon know
all my life
fly like a bird
we belong together
all in your mind
my all- classic radio club mix
i wish you well
side effects
stay long love you

All In Your Mind



Good taste.



My list would be too long. I'm listening to one of my 3 hr playlists. Right now Till The End Of Time is on.

[delapuerta]

Well, we're just giving our opinions respectfully. I don't think Autotune, Melodyne or pitching the vocals is bad perse. I see this as part of production or artistic value, like synths or samplers.
There are times that the result is not as satisfying as others. But it's true that Mariah's natural tone is so beautiful, warm and rich that if it's somehow altered we can notice. I'm not judging her vocals. Vocal production is what it is

[CasualFlow]

I feel like with Heavenly, she got a gospel choir over and decided to get into the moment, and see what all kinds of ad-libs popped out and that the end result would be like Fly Like A Bird. Unfortunately, it didn’t quite happen like that! I do love gospel Mariah when she gets it right though

I love gospel Mariah and FLAB is one of the greatest songs ever, of any kind. But I don't listen to Heavenly much. It was not one of my favorites on MIAM.

[CasualFlow]

Well, we're just giving our opinions respectfully. I don't think Autotune, Melodyne or pitching the vocals is bad perse. I see this as part of production or artistic value, like synths or samplers.
There are times that the result is not as satisfying as others. But it's true that Mariah's natural tone is so beautiful, warm and rich that if it's somehow altered we can notice. I'm not judging her vocals. Vocal production is what it is

Absolutely. You're entitled to your opinion and taste. Her natural tone is just as you describe it. "Just like honey". I see no need to mess with it, unless there is a fun reason to do so.

[CasualFlow]

I think it's Mariah and her engineer Brian that alter the vocals, not the producers. That's why caution wasn't overcooked as she didn't have time!

Yeah. I think it's Mariah more than the "producers". She is THE producer after all.

[Marchum]

Subtle Invitation, Stay The Night, Your Girl, Love Story, Thirsty, One More Try, and Heavenly are the very obvious ones that come to my mind right now.

[CasualFlow]

I love Heavenly. I can't at people sh!tting on it.

Also, regarding new music... we want danceable uptempos, but we deserve a beat ballad and more candy bling rehashes. <3

Yes. We need E=MC3 (Cubed).

[CasualFlow]

Subtle Invitation, Stay The Night, Your Girl, Love Story, Thirsty, One More Try, and Heavenly are the very obvious ones that come to my mind right now.

Is that list for me Marc?

[Marchum]

Is that list for me Marc?

Sorry, I was reading the last few pages so I just gave a list of the songs I think were heavily edited when it comes to her pitch.

[stevyy]

she's too busy planning for "it's tiiiiiiiiiiime" video

it takes a lot to do a professional 10 sec clip once a year. I wouldn't even know where to start. Monroe and Moroccan are probably already cutting out the green screen from old curtains... that takes time... they also have to do their homework.

And then Mariah has to call a director... like anyone would do... but with her long nails, it takes weeks to dial a number on the phone, especially when she is on vocal rest... like 99% of the time now.

And then, they have to plan out the production of the video and the budget. Mariah currently can only spend $675 from her own money bc Stella stole her LV bags with her wallet in it. That is why Mariah also doesn't know what a "bill" is bc our girl wasn't able to pay for anything since 2017.

Furthermore, the shooting of that 10 sec video will take at least 7 months bc MIMI must choose the perfect wig made of unicorn hair and that red xmas suit that she loves wearing is currently at the North Pole where Mrs Claus has to iron it.

And then she is sown into that which takes 3 weeks. It takes 3 weeks because Mimi cannot breathe in it and so she has to store oxygen within herself... in her body... which must last for a couple of months.

And then they have to go into editing after the shooting... Mariah has to call the CGI team from Disney again and they have to work day and night for the correct lighting and filters.

In the end, Walter and Tommy are getting the bill bc they are always promoting the song more than she does each Xmas... so it is only fair. Also, they righfully let the world know that Mariah had NOTHING to do with the song... other than singing 3 notes and the rest is autotune or whatever.

Right now, I'm praying that she can stay on schedule for "It's Time"... I've seen her engage with IAW over the past few days and we all know after working so hard for 1 minute in total, she needs at least 11 months of carribean holiday time to recover and re-chart her batteries.

Stay strong, Mariah, pull thru darling. I'm rooting for you.

[stevyy]

“Runway” is 100 percent the best vocal on Caution, her tone is amazing

Puhlease... The best songs on Caution have the best vocal. GML, TD, C, ANN and 8th first and foremost.

[CasualFlow]

i don't get the reference to chipmunk vocals. never have and never will.

Yeah, I think they mean something different than what it means to me. IAW Sped Up is chipmunk vocals. Boy and You Got Me intentionally incorporate it. Maybe pitching or autotuning is the better term for what they refer to.

[CasualFlow]

Sorry, I was reading the last few pages so I just gave a list of the songs I think were heavily edited when it comes to her pitch.

Ok. Gonna listen to them right now. Ears peeled.

[stevyy]

Yeah, I think they mean something different than what it means to me. IAW Sped Up is chipmunk vocals. Boy and You Got Me intentionally incorporate it. Maybe pitching or autotuning is the better term for what they refer to.

I'm old... maybe I'm not hearing those frequencies that the youngins are hearing with their teenage ears...

I'm not sure. I know of Yout Got Me and Boy, and the sped up song. But the others act as if she is sounding like that on all music since 1999. I'm not sure what the truth is anymore.

[CasualFlow]

she's too busy planning for "it's tiiiiiiiiiiime" video

we only deserve a new black irish ad this year.

You guys are funny.

[CasualFlow]

Y’all are conflating or batching together pitch-shifting (changing the key) with AutoTune and Melodyne (pitch correction), but I get it, sometimes when a song has both like “Thirsty” or “Heavenly,” she doesn’t sound like Mariah

There’s AutoTune on WBT Valentine’s but not pitch-shifting, same with The Distance, A No No, and all of MCIIY

There’s subtle pitch shifting on Subtle Invitation but not AutoTune

It’s the AutoTune, not pitch-shifting, that fuchs with her tone, but like I said, more realistic software exists now called RePitch, and melodyne is a bit more natural too

Thanks for the clarification. That makes sense.

[CasualFlow]

I'm old... maybe I'm not hearing those frequencies that the youngins are hearing with their teenage ears...

I'm not sure. I know of Yout Got Me and Boy, and the sped up song. But the others act as if she is sounding like that on all music since 1999. I'm not sure what the truth is anymore.

Wool in our ears. Old lambs are the best lambs.

[Marchum]

When I say Chipmunkriah; I don’t mean the obvious, on-purpose editing like You Got Me or Boy.
I mean the pitch editing to make her vocals sound more “girly” and “young”.
I think she first started doing it with Charmbracelet (altho I lowkey believe she actually first started doing it in Rainbow, but not sure) in order to stick with her “brand”. And in time, her vocals kept changing, getting deeper and raspier, so she had to keep up with pitching her vocals. Even her live performances are heavily edited in terms of her pitch. Her Christmas specials (and yes; all of them) are unlistenable to me cause she doesn’t sound authentic. I prefer her real, current tone. So much more emotion and deepness in them.
Not to mention, it’s impossible for her to match the lipped climax parts in her live performances when the pitch of her current live vocals are multiple notes lower than the Highpitchriah vocals. Like, for example Bye Bye live performances. “And it’s true that you reached a better place” line is live, but sounds so different than the rest of the climax. Or “life is oh so cold” in FLAB.
One of the biggest reasons I love Caution so much is the fact that she didn’t alter her climax vocals.

[stevyy]

Wool in our ears. Old lambs are the best lambs.

absolutely. We been knew them times when she was a professional music artist. The teens of today have no idea that she Black Irish promoter used to be a star in music.

[Marchum]

I mean if you think about it, she used to lower her studio vocals’ pitch for fake “live” performances to make it sound different back in the day. She really thinks the pitch changing makes wonders

[delapuerta]

Wool in our ears. Old lambs are the best lambs.

Stevvy acting like the rest of us are teenagers

[stevyy]

Stevvy acting like the rest of us are teenagers

I am 57. In comparison to me, you are.