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  • You know, I still check her Spotify page on a Friday... just in case...

    #MC31

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    • Do you think record labels still have physical CD singles in storage somewhere? Or they would be long disposed of/recycled?
      I think if artists had them for sale on their websites fans would jump at buying them.

      Although I don't have a CD player anymore I regret not buying more singles back in the day.

      I think MC could sell a decent amount if she were to sell them on her shop

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      • Lord Jesus give us new Mariah music as soon as possible

        Lord in heaven I pray you will hit RELEASE on one of dem songs with her current vocals next week

        Tease us with a snippet queen, we are dying
        Last edited by allygdale; Fri May 21, 2021, 04:42.

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        • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

          GTFO is amazing and very edgy and Bliss a masterclass on the use of the whistle register, plus sexy af.

          And Mariah can't/couldn't sing Butterfly? Girl, please.

          I love the vocal saves/note changes/new melodies. Flawlessly done.

          I agree that Butterfly is a masterpiece and these two performances are some of her best lives EVER.

          ehm... 1997 is 24 years ago.

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          • Butterfly is such a gorgeous song, one of my all time favorites, but it’s so damn airy, I don’t know how she ever did it live, Queen of Oxygen

            She could still do it live in concert but to not kill her stamina she would have to do it in the key of the chorus, an octave lower

            Its such a petty complaint because the song is still a 10/10, but imagine if the Butterly chorus were all Mariah layers instead of just the adlibs

            The only thing better than one Mariah vocal is a choir of Mariah vocals

            I only need the Trey and Tots on the gospel ish, like did y’all hear the version of Babydoll where Mariah did all the backgrounds? Good lord
            Last edited by allygdale; Fri May 21, 2021, 05:04.

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            • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
              We should work on getting her current streak of 14 consecutive years growing. Beyoncé currently has 18 consecutive years with a H100 entry... and Mary J. Blige is standing at 19 years (her streak has ended tho).
              Sad that Lil Love failed to chart on Hot 100 in 2007, the only year she didnt chart on Hot 100.

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              • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

                Whatever she is working on right now... i know it will set my heart on fire. <3
                If it's another skippable song like Why you mad...
                Mariah Carey x BTS
                #20th No.1

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                • Originally posted by Anderson View Post

                  If it's another skippable song like Why you mad...
                  The vocal sounded rushed but the production was fire, I said what I said

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                  • Glitter vinyl dropping soon

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                    • OMG..... mariah singing dreamlover live 1993

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                      • A true rarity!^
                        I AM A GOD!

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                        • I still like her tone best on Today Show 2003 and 1995 Daydream Tour

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                          • I need that Glitter vinyl.
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                            • Everyone needs to do their part tomorrow!!

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                              • Originally posted by allygdale View Post
                                Butterfly is such a gorgeous song, one of my all time favorites, but it’s so damn airy, I don’t know how she ever did it live, Queen of Oxygen

                                She could still do it live in concert but to not kill her stamina she would have to do it in the key of the chorus, an octave lower
                                Butterfly (song) is just

                                But it's so hard. She could in '97 and not only 'cause she had the ability but 'cause she had the confidence.

                                To perform this live, she needs to be SUPER relaxed and in total control of her voice and her breath technique. But seeing how nervous she gets on the stage now, she couldn't pull if off this one.

                                I think she should've done a decent job in 2013 'cause her whisper and transitions were on fire and she still had confidence somehow (pre-Rockefeller, NYE fiascos), tho she would have lipped the climax LOL.

                                I don't know where her whisper register is at at this very moment. I hope is doing well 'cause I love that part of her voice.

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                                • Originally posted by allygdale View Post
                                  The vocal sounded rushed but the production was fire, I said what I said
                                  I kinda like Justin's parts...

                                  She had Justin, French Montana and T.I., she should've saved that collabo for a better song.

                                  Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                                  Glitter vinyl dropping soon
                                  Looks dope, I want it.

                                  I wonder if she's doing something for the anniversary...



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                                  • 0:19 that whistle was AMAZING

                                    Nice F5 at 2:58 and LOL at the vocals saves when her head voice kinda cracked at the end, great impromptu!

                                    This is the best show for the MB Tour probably, she sounds the healthiest.

                                    Originally posted by chanteuse View Post
                                    OMG..... mariah singing dreamlover live 1993

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                                    • Originally posted by allygdale View Post
                                      I still like her tone best on Today Show 2003 and 1995 Daydream Tour
                                      Yeah, not a fan of her MB Tour tone tbh. She was out of breath like all the time as well. Could be the nerves.

                                      P.S. I'm talking about the tour, the TV performances from that Era were outstanding and her tone divine.

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                                      PARIS DATE, RAINBOW TOUR (RARE)

                                      VOL




                                      MY ALL



                                      WITHOUT YOU



                                      Her tone in this tour is just

                                      The rest of the performances in the channel.

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                                      • Btw, a fashion TV show from my country called "Corte & Confección" did a Luis Miguel special yesterday, and of course Mariah was on it.

                                        Here's the full episode.

                                        6:05 / 34:35 Mimi moments.



                                        They called her the love of his life.
                                        And they said nice things about Mimi.

                                        They were saying all the time how sexy she was/is and how her clothes are always tight and revealing

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                                        • The Story Behind Mariah Carey’s Secret ’90s Alt-Rock Album

                                          When Mariah Carey released her memoir last fall, it came with infinite revelations. An instant New York Times bestseller, The Meaning of Mariah Carey offered colorful details about Carey’s personal life, including her contentious marriage to former Sony Music head Tommy Mottola and her fling with Derek Jeter. But arguably its most surprising morsel was that, amid the recording of her smash fifth album Daydream, Carey released a secret alt-rock album. She described it as “irreverent, raw, and urgent.”

                                          Carey revealed neither the band name nor the project title in her memoir, but alongside
                                          an excerpt on Twitter, she included the hashtag #Chick. It was enough for her fanbase to go on: the Lambily discovered that a band named Chick released an album called Someone’s Ugly Daughter in 1995, the same year as Daydream, sparking questions. How could one of the most visible pop stars in the universe quietly release an alt-rock album under an alias? And what did Carey hope to prove with the side project?

                                          With fans looking for answers, copies of Chick’s Someone’s Ugly Daughter soon garnered up to $800 on Amazon and eBay. (It currently
                                          sells on Discogs for $100 to $200, but the full album isn’t available on streaming services.) Still, outside of a passage in The Meaning of Mariah Carey, few knew specifics about the album’s creation. Now, in interviews with Pitchfork, collaborators detail the recording process, describing the project as an antithesis to Carey’s meticulous pop star image.

                                          “We all had been doing the ‘professional music business’ thing, and this brought us back to just playing for fun,” says Gary Cirimelli, a computer sequencer and programmer for Carey’s albums who became Chick’s guitarist. “There were no expectations.”

                                          While working on Daydream in the summer of 1995, Carey and her longtime producer, Walter Afanasieff, explored the notion of making punk music for fun. According to Afanasieff, Carey had an idea built around Malibu Barbie. For her, an alter-ego project could be an outlet for some of the anger simmering in her personal life. Inspired by bands like Hole, Garbage, and Sleater-Kinney, she channeled frustrations about her marriage into the music. “I was playing with the style of the breezy-grunge, punk-light white female singers who were popular at the time. You know the ones who seemed to be so carefree with their feelings and their image,” she writes in her memoir. “They could be angry, angsty, and messy, with old shoes, wrinkled slips, and unruly eyebrows, while every move I made was so calculated and manicured. I wanted to break free, let loose, and express my misery—but I also wanted to laugh.”

                                          Carey and her team would work on Daydream during the day at Studio One in New York City’s Hit Factory before switching to recording what would become Someone’s Ugly Daughter around midnight. Dana Jon Chappelle, Carey’s longtime engineer, was there for the impromptu studio sessions and witnessed the band’s natural progression. “It just sort of happened,” he says. “There was a drum kit in the room, and ideas started floating between her and Walter.” They’d go until as late as six in the morning, recording on Sony 48-track reels. “We would pull the reels off, throw on a blank reel, and start cutting,” Cirimelli adds. “There was no programming involved. It was all just old school.”

                                          According to Afanasieff, Carey originally titled the project Eel Tree. (While flying out from Amsterdam, she noticed trees that looked as if they had eels dangling from their branches, he says.) After the name was official, the group agreed that no one would use their real names in the project’s credits. Carey went by D. Sue, while Afanasieff used the moniker W. Vlad, an abbreviation of Walter and his legal first name, Vladimir. Cirimelli, who received a writing credit on three tracks, went by “W. Chester,” as in Westchester County, New York, where Carey and her team did tour rehearsal.

                                          The songwriting for the project happened quickly and was different from anything Carey had ever done. “She would come in with half a song, and within 20 minutes, we’d start cutting it,” says Cirimelli. “We would laugh at some of the ideas Mariah would come up with lyrically and go, ‘That has to stay.’”

                                          Arrangements evolved organically, too. Cirimelli says the band would pull in studio staff and interns to contribute background vocals and ad-libs. “We were calling people into the studio—friends that were hanging around, staff, people with Mariah,” Chappelle recalls. “It didn’t matter if you could sing or not. [Mariah] just wanted a bunch of people putting vocals on the record.”

                                          Afanasieff saw Carey’s personality as the perfect fit for an alter-ego project. “She was always clowning around and doing voices and characters,” he says. “We were pretending to be drunk and stoned, like that really dark punk rock scene.” One song on the finished version of the album, titled “Hermit,” opens with the lyrics, “I am vinegar, and water/I am someone’s ugly daughter/I am wading in the water/I am locked inside a closet/I am dripping like a faucet/I am twisted like a sausage.”

                                          But when the powers that be found out about the album, Sony Music (the parent company of Carey’s then-label Columbia) refused to release the record with Carey’s vocals as the lead. Afanasieff says Sony renamed the band from Eel Tree to Chick, and made Carey—who co-wrote every song except for the cover of Cheap Trick’s “Surrender”—sanitize many of the more explicit lyrics. They also brought in Carey’s friend Clarissa Dane to become the face of Chick and layered Dane’s vocals on top of Carey’s, thus masking her voice. Instead of releasing the project under Columbia, Sony moved it to Epic under 550 Records.

                                          By that point, Carey had amassed eight No. 1 songs in the first four years of her career and carved out a lane as a powerhouse vocalist. Sony saw the album as too much of a deviation from her carefully crafted pop image. “I got kind of in trouble for making this album—the alternative album—because back then, everything was super-controlled by the powers that be,” Carey told Zane Lowe in an
                                          interview last December. “I never really was like, ‘Oh, we’re going to release it.’ But then I was like, I should release it. I should do it under an alias. Let people discover it and whatever, but that got squashed.”


                                          For the album’s packaging, Carey turned to Sony’s art department. “I wrote the title with pink lipstick over a Polaroid picture Tommy had taken of a giant dead cockroach in Italy,” Carey writes in her memoir. “I told them to add a smashed-up eye shadow makeup palette.” Tracy Boychuk, then a junior art director at Sony, remembers Sony A&R Michael Goldstone asking her to design the Chick cover art using the Polaroids from Carey. She never met or spoke to the singer during the process, but her marching orders were clear: make it look “rock.”

                                          “The direction was me trying to take a blurry photograph that wasn’t very interesting and making it look like something deliberate,” Boychuk explained via email. “The rest of the album package was just images of her friend [Dane]… It all felt a bit disingenuous, but I understood that the label was not going to risk a huge pop success with a bad rock record. It wasn’t very compelling. It was just another assignment that I sometimes look back on and shake my head.”

                                          Someone’s Ugly Daughter arrived in September 1995 to little fanfare. Its two singles, “Demented” and “Malibu,” were brooding in different ways: The former focused around the tortured repetition of the phrase “I crave you,” while the latter was more pop-punk-ish, with bratty lines like, “If I were Malibu Barbie and you were suntan Ken/I’d probably dump your ass for G.I. Joe ’cause he’s macho, yeah.” Neither song charted on Billboard, and though “Malibu” received mild airplay at MTV (including some crude commentary from
                                          Beavis & Butt-Head), it failed to gain traction. In hindsight, both videos contained references to the Mariah-verse, from a close-up of a butterfly on Dane’s neck in “Demented” to a cameo by Carey’s dog in “Malibu.”

                                          “We were working the records to alternative radio, but they didn’t think it was alternative,” says Hilary Lerner, who was then EVP of radio promotion at 550 Records. “The first single did not do well. But we still put out another. Clearly, it was a ‘priority list project.’” In other words, the label made an effort to push the singles. But would the media have responded better if Carey was publicly associated with the project?

                                          “Sony just wanted it to go away,” Chappelle says. “Maybe they felt like it was a threat to the pop sales. Maybe they felt like it would confuse people.” It’s a feat that Carey got the record released at all. “Mariah can be… She’s a very strong person, and she can be very influential,” Chappelle adds. “It was out there for a minute, but I think it was too much for Sony. It’s too different from Mariah, the pop star.”

                                          Fans wonder if Carey will ever re-release the project with complete transparency. “I just found the version with my vocals, but I need to find the board mixes from back then,” Carey told Lowe. For his part, Cirimelli would like others to hear what the album sounds like with Carey’s vocals center stage. “God, that would be awesome to hear her vocals on top of that again,” Cirimelli says. “As far as I know, we were the only ones who ever heard that.”

                                          The Chick album was a sign of what Carey could do without the interference of executives. Her split from Tommy Mottola during the recording of 1997’s Butterfly gave her room to pursue collaborations in the hip-hop and R&B realm, and she reached new heights on “
                                          Honey” with producers Puff Daddy, Q-Tip, and Stevie J behind the wheel. She would gradually take more control of her creative direction, spearheading albums like her 2005 comeback, The Emancipation of Mimi. It’s unclear if the stars will ever align for Carey to drop her alt-rock album as she intended, but if she ever does, this time it’ll be on her terms.

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                                          • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

                                            yes, H100 only. Imagine... out of the past 32 charting years, Mariah achieved a H100 placement in 31 of them.
                                            I dont think she charted in 2004 either, unless I’m very mistaken?

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                                            • Loved reading about the making of that album. How amazing is it that she wrote songs in such a short time!
                                              See The Mariah Carey Discography Rate
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                                              • Olivia rodrigo is getting a #1 hit with a pop rock song. Mariah should release the album this year, I think people who’s not the lambs would check it out. She could ask Millie Bobby Brown to star in the music video to have a little promotion for the album, maybe it could do better than rarities

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                                                • Originally posted by PJDoubleu View Post

                                                  I dont think she charted in 2004 either, unless I’m very mistaken?
                                                  U make me wanna hit #21 in the US in 2004.
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                                                  • fantastic article about chick. My hope of getting this has risen a bit... since... I believe that her team wanted this article to be made to remind everyone. <3
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