Mariah Carey

[mm2912]

To be honest in the scheme of thing if it gets to 25 or 35 on itunes it wont really make much difference. If her team or whoever released this were worried about that they should have just released it on a Friday.

I think they know it won’t chart so they tried no to compete with the biggest releases on a Friday and get a shot at Thursday

[InFamous]

Honestly I don’t understand the hatred that YM(E) gets from you guys. It’s a great song and one of those Mariah’s songs that I play on a daily basis. The layering, production, backing vocals, melody and beats are so on point.

I like You're mine tbh. Definitely better than Obsessed.

[WaitYourTurn]

1. In The Mix
2. Somewhat Loved
3. I Don’t
4. Where I Belong
5. Infamous
6. Unforgettable Remix

1. Somewhat loved
2. Where I Belong
3. I don’t know her
4. I don’t know her
5. I don’t know her
6. I don’t know her

[MayoAndMustard]

I like You're mine tbh. Definitely better than Obsessed.

Finally some appreciation towards You’re Mine lol

I like both. Both songs are cute.

[Xmas]

[Good]
1. I Don't
2. Where I Belong

[Able to listen on repeat]
3. Unforgettable Remix
4. In The Mix

[Uninspired]
5. Infamous
6. Lil’ Snowman

[Worst songs of her career]
7. Somewhat Loved
8. Infinity
9. Saved The Day

[MayoAndMustard]

My favourite moments of this performance;

1.) Melonie’s ad-lib at 3:00 was so on point. Love her tone.
2.) Mariah’s run at around 3:04. Not sure was it supposed to be Mariah’s line or Laura trying cut Mariah off but that run was just beautiful. Wish Mariah had carried on and sang a lil bit more.
3.) All of Mariah’s ad-libs. Her tone basically outshined everyone.

[MayoAndMustard]

[Worst songs of her career]
7. Somewhat Loved
8. Infinity
9. Saved The Day

100% agree

[LambChild]

I didn’t know y’all hated In The Mix so much. Sure not the strongest vocals but musically it’s reminiscent of her strong string of lead singles from the 90s. Great melodies and I actually love her backing vocals on the final chorus especially “round and round it goes”. It definitely gives me that nostalgic vibe of an American 90s sitcom too—and for a lot of people those songs made the shows.

[NorthernMonkey]

I didn’t know y’all hated In The Mix so much. Sure not the strongest vocals but musically it’s reminiscent of her strong string of lead singles from the 90s. Great melodies and I actually love her backing vocals on the final chorus especially “round and round it goes”. It definitely gives me that nostalgic vibe of an American 90s sitcom too—and for a lot of people those songs made the shows.

it definitely serves its purpose and it’s not a bad song. The beat is reminiscent of her 90’s uptempos but the song as a whole is nowhere near on a par with the likes of Fantasy, Dreamlover or Heartbreaker

[Shaka]

I think they know it won’t chart so they tried no to compete with the biggest releases on a Friday and get a shot at Thursday

But lamb's campaign was to buy it today, Friday.
I think it was a mistake since sales were split.
I know iTunes is dead anyway and at the end of the day it means nothing, but just for enjoy the moment it would've been nice to have the song in the Top 10 for a couple of hours. And Thursday was the best shot at it.

[MayoAndMustard]

it definitely serves its purpose and it’s not a bad song. The beat is reminiscent of her 90’s uptempos but the song as a whole is nowhere near on a par with the likes of Fantasy, Dreamlover or Heartbreaker

And the difference in quality between those three songs and SL is just shocking...

[Shaka]

Sorry ! I'll take the whipping

Ok then!

Honestly I don’t understand the hatred that YM(E) gets from you guys. It’s a great song and one of those Mariah’s songs that I play on a daily basis. The layering, production, backing vocals, melody and beats are so on point.

I like You're Mine.
She sounds like she has asthma at some points but I think the melody is gorgeous.

I like You're mine tbh. Definitely better than Obsessed.

1. Somewhat loved
2. Where I Belong
3. I don’t know her
4. I don’t know her
5. I don’t know her
6. I don’t know her

C'mon!
They're not masterpieces but each of 'em have elements that I enjoy.

[LambChild]

it definitely serves its purpose and it’s not a bad song. The beat is reminiscent of her 90’s uptempos but the song as a whole is nowhere near on a par with the likes of Fantasy, Dreamlover or Heartbreaker

Well of course—not many songs in history are

but to still be at least reminiscent while just serving as a tv theme and not the lead single of a major album release should count for something

[Shaka]

My favourite moments of this performance;

1.) Melonie’s ad-lib at 3:00 was so on point. Love her tone.
2.) Mariah’s run at around 3:04. Not sure was it supposed to be Mariah’s line or Laura trying cut Mariah off but that run was just beautiful. Wish Mariah had carried on and sang a lil bit more.
3.) All of Mariah’s ad-libs. Her tone basically outshined everyone.

She was ON FIRE this day.

Hero climax was EPIC.
My All was AMAZING.

And her ad-libs here were fantastic, her TONE was shining.

Mariah's mic was so low tho, the whistle was so good but almost inaudible, and Laura was basically screaming I love her, but nope girl.

A fantastic concert overall, and Mariah X Luciano is one of my fave moments of Mimi's career.

[Worst songs of her career]
7. Somewhat Loved
8. Infinity
9. Saved The Day

I agree about Infinity but SL & STD aren't that bad.
Acually I think SL is good.

There's plenty of worse songs, like Almost Home, X-Girlfriend, Lil' Snowman, How Much, some MIAM tracks (vocally), TAOLG (messy af and lyrically), Can't Say No (vocally), Why U Mad...

[bm08]

I think they know it won’t chart so they tried no to compete with the biggest releases on a Friday and get a shot at Thursday

Yeah, I think so too. The thinking is to drive conversations and get ahead of the pack on Thursday. Thursday releases are increasingly popular these days.

People saying iTunes doesnt matter really should look into those close chart competitions where only a few hundred units made the difference between chart spots. As long as downloads remain part of the chart formula, iTunes will remain relevant. It's a matter of getting enough downloads.

[Shaka]

People saying iTunes doesnt matter really should look into those close chart competitions where only a few hundred units made the difference between chart spots. As long as downloads remain part of the chart formula, iTunes will remain relevant. It's a matter of getting enough downloads.

I know it matters for the charts when the competition is strong and some units can make the difference (like Willow VS AIW last december for example).
But I think we're talking about these Mariah's songs like WIB or SL that we know they won't chart.
Being top 30 means nothing these days.
Only the Top 3/5 is strong.

And just talking about sales.
Then you have to be strong in all the components, tho we know streaming & airplay are more important, and those are Mariah's weakness.

I didn’t know y’all hated In The Mix so much. Sure not the strongest vocals but musically it’s reminiscent of her strong string of lead singles from the 90s. Great melodies and I actually love her backing vocals on the final chorus especially “round and round it goes”. It definitely gives me that nostalgic vibe of an American 90s sitcom too—and for a lot of people those songs made the shows.

I don't hate it, I actually liked it the few times I heard it.
But I'm never in a mood for that song.
It's cute, it sounds like a bop (kinda), not a fan of her tone.
Not memorable for me.

but to still be at least reminiscent while just serving as a tv theme and not the lead single of a major album release should count for something

I think it served its purpose.
I dislike certain elements in the background.
I appreciate that gurl was using her chest voice all the time, I'll give her that.

[Shaka]

"SOMEWHAT LOVED" IS TRENDING

[MayoAndMustard]

She was ON FIRE this day.

Hero climax was EPIC.
My All was AMAZING.

And her ad-libs here were fantastic, her TONE was shining.

Mariah's mic was so low tho, the whistle was so good but almost inaudible, and Laura was basically screaming I love her, but nope girl.

A fantastic concert overall, and Mariah X Luciano is one of my fave moments of Mimi's career.

Shaka, I might be part of the minority regarding this but I do wonder what do you think like, although her tone was gorgeous on that day, her vocal sounded a bit disconnected. What I really mean is, she phrased the song so carefully and added so many breaks in between and minimised transitions between registers, just to avoid any rasps and cracks. This is quite obvious when she sang Hero with Pavarotti. She even kept her use of head voice/falsetto to a minimum, and I guess she was trying avoid any cracks between the transitions of chest/head. Overall, she sounded great that day but I could tell she was nervous AF when she sang Hero with Pavarotti, like she was holding back a lot until the bridge kicked in.

[tee]

Mariah is the only person I know who could make the word corridor sound appealing by the way she sung it!

Listening to some of her modern stuff, I think about Walter. I respect Mariah for holding a grudge and not going back to him, but I do feel that when she was working with him, they created a really professional sound that became like the Mariah brand. A lot of Mariah’s later songs have the magic spark so it’s clear Mariah is the driving force but I feel like he was just able to round it off into something that was perfect.

I think because he was classically trained in music he brought that timelessness quality to the songs. Like Cant Let Go for example is often referenced for its classic-ness but also that it fits into every era. Mariah brought the melodies, lyrics, witty-ness and hip factor. Together they could not be matched.

[WaitYourTurn]

Shaka haha, okay, I’ll give you parts of Infamous. But she sounds like a man at the beginning and the song is just way too Empire for me

[InFamous]

Itunes is the least important chart metric and it is irrelevant when it comes to charting purposes, unless you also have either streaming or radio to bolster it. Downloads on their own are not enough to do anything. Also who is talking about Somewhat Loved cos it was released on a thursday. Genuinely curious. The same people would have had the same conversations if it were released on a friday.

[InFamous]

I think they know it won’t chart so they tried no to compete with the biggest releases on a Friday and get a shot at Thursday

But that doesn't really work if all her fans decide no not buying it on thurday, lets all wait until friday

[skylynx]

Unforgettable Remix
Somewhat Loved
Where I Belong
Infamous
I Don’t
In the Mix

Unforgettable is the only one I would say I like out of this group. Yes it has it's issues, ie. the vocals but the beat and modern production makes up for everything and masks the vocals.

All the other songs just sound very dated upon first listen. Outside of the Caution album, I haven't liked any single release or semi-single releases since #Beautiful. Gosh that's quite some time.

[InFamous]

Unforgettable is the only one I would say I like out of this group. Yes it has it's issues, ie. the vocals but the beat and modern production makes up for everything and masks the vocals.

All the other songs just sound very dated upon first listen. Outside of the Caution album, I haven't liked any single release or semi-single releases since #Beautiful. Gosh that's quite some time.

Personally I don't really consider Unforgettable a "Mariah" song. She just added her vocals to it and I am not saying there is anything wrong with that but she is usually so involved in things it makes a difference when it is her. If she had been on the original track ok but it was already out and a massive hit before her version was released. I do like it though having said that.

[Shaka]

Shaka, I might be part of the minority regarding this but I do wonder what do you think like, although her tone was gorgeous on that day, her vocal sounded a bit disconnected. What I really mean is, she phrased the song so carefully and added so many breaks in between and minimised transitions between registers, just to avoid any rasps and cracks. This is quite obvious when she sang Hero with Pavarotti. She even kept her use of head voice/falsetto to a minimum, and I guess she was trying avoid any cracks between the transitions of chest/head. Overall, she sounded great that day but I could tell she was nervous AF when she sang Hero with Pavarotti, like she was holding back a lot until the bridge kicked in.

Yeah, she was super nervous for sure.
Her voice was raspy that day, watch the undubbed performances and it's more evident.
Anyway, she gave her all in each rendition.

Regarding Hero, I think she wanted to do the song in full voice 'cause she was trying to match Luciano's approach to the song.
Her ad-libs were done in a lighter voice, but she was using her chest voice in the verses and of course she went off during the climax, she even darkened her voice and added a heavier vocal approach.

These performances were great given her vocal condition during that Era. She was raspy but well rested.