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  • The other day I listened to an interview that Walter gave. It was fairly new (from a few months ago) on a podcast. He was asked to name the artists he was most proud to have worked with and he cited Mariah, Aretha and Barbra Streisand. He also was asked to name his favorite songs he wrote with Mariah - his answer:

    Anytime You Need A Friend
    Butterfly
    Everything Fades Away
    Underneath The Stars
    Music Box
    Till The End of Time


    The ironic thing is that for all the shade Mariah throws his way about schmaltziness and whatnot, their tastes are a lot closer, more similar in actuality. He, like Mariah, seems to favor the most soulful part of their work and also he, like her, has proclaimed Stevie Wonder as the best musician there ever was.

    on The Voice topic —

    1990-1992 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 1993-1995 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2003-2005 >>>>>>>>>>> 1997-1998 >>>>>>>>>>>> 1995-1996

    special mention to Beacon '14, SSFT and Asia '18!

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    • Originally posted by ForeverYoung View Post
      He also was asked to name his favorite songs he wrote with Mariah - his answer:

      Anytime You Need A Friend
      Butterfly
      Everything Fades Away
      Underneath The Stars
      Music Box
      Till The End of Time

      All great songs mind you.
      ATYNAF is amazing and Music Box and TTEOT are two of Mariah's most beautiful ballads!

      MESMARIAHSING!

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      • Just watched free guy trailer commercial on my local TV. So good to listen to fantasy. I think I’ll have to go to the movies for the first time since the pandemic next month so I can listen to fantasy on a big screen with good surround sound playing loud

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        • Originally posted by mm2912 View Post
          Just watched free guy trailer commercial on my local TV. So good to listen to fantasy. I think I’ll have to go to the movies for the first time since the pandemic next month so I can listen to fantasy on a big screen with good surround sound playing loud
          Is it confirmed it's in the movie though?
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          • Originally posted by bm08 View Post

            Is it confirmed it's in the movie though?
            Yes. „Not only in the movie, but in the campaign for the movie.” So the song will be featured heavily through the movie

            Director Shawn Levy gave details about how the film's relationship with the song came about in an interview with Cinema Blend. While star Reynolds was working on dialogue for the script, he was listening to Carey heavily and ended up writing the song into the script:
            Ryan, when he was doing the earliest dialogue polishes on this screenplay, he was listening to Mariah in his home, and he wrote “Fantasy” into the script. And I go, ‘What’s this about?’, and he’s like ‘It just feels good.’ So literally, based on nothing but Ryan’s instinct, and the fact that that was one of his writing tracks in the revisions of Free Guy, we approached Team Mariah and it lead to that song being the signature track. Not only in the movie, but in the campaign for the movie.

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            • Originally posted by mm2912 View Post

              Yes. „Not only in the movie, but in the campaign for the movie.” So the song will be featured heavily through the movie

              Director Shawn Levy gave details about how the film's relationship with the song came about in an interview with Cinema Blend. While star Reynolds was working on dialogue for the script, he was listening to Carey heavily and ended up writing the song into the script:
              Ryan, when he was doing the earliest dialogue polishes on this screenplay, he was listening to Mariah in his home, and he wrote “Fantasy” into the script. And I go, ‘What’s this about?’, and he’s like ‘It just feels good.’ So literally, based on nothing but Ryan’s instinct, and the fact that that was one of his writing tracks in the revisions of Free Guy, we approached Team Mariah and it lead to that song being the signature track. Not only in the movie, but in the campaign for the movie.
              Good find, thanks! I didnt realise they made extensive comments about it.

              Perhaps this generation's equivalent of Rush Hour?
              See The Mariah Carey Discography Rate
              See The Report Card - Weekly Top Songs

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              • Originally posted by Shaka View Post
                Gawd, she sounded so close to the record here. She was in very good voice that night!

                UTS acapella '13 (Idol Takes)



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                A shame they dubbed her medley, the undubbed is miles better.
                Omg at how fast those runs are and her agility here is just out of the world! She just sounds identical to the album version here.

                And yeah I hate the dubbed versions as well. That made her sound like chipmunk-ish.

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                • Originally posted by bm08 View Post

                  Good find, thanks! I didnt realise they made extensive comments about it.

                  Perhaps this generation's equivalent of Rush Hour?
                  I think will be more eminent than that. The song was writing into the script and the story. And the story is about a fantasy land so I think will play to song very heavily throughout the movie and probably the ending credits as well. Can’t wait to find out

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                  • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                    It's a miracle that she's still alive and that she can do the things with her voice she still does now.
                    We should appreciate her more.
                    I mean. Yes. I agree. But I don’t think anyone here insinuated being ungrateful for her to be alive though.
                    Everything, it only fades...

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                    • Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                      This is amazing to see!
                      Yasss!!!

                      WBT especially has been reaching new peaks since it's started to chart on iTunes.

                      Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                      It seems like the Kanye West song where he samples Always Be My Baby won't make the cut on his album.
                      What a shame!
                      I really liked it.

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                        Originally posted by ForeverYoung View Post
                        Anytime You Need A Friend
                        Butterfly
                        Everything Fades Away
                        Underneath The Stars
                        Music Box
                        Till The End of Time
                        I love all these songs!

                        Originally posted by mm2912 View Post
                        Yes. „Not only in the movie, but in the campaign for the movie.” So the song will be featured heavily through the movie

                        Director Shawn Levy gave details about how the film's relationship with the song came about in an interview with Cinema Blend. While star Reynolds was working on dialogue for the script, he was listening to Carey heavily and ended up writing the song into the script:
                        Ryan, when he was doing the earliest dialogue polishes on this screenplay, he was listening to Mariah in his home, and he wrote “Fantasy” into the script. And I go, ‘What’s this about?’, and he’s like ‘It just feels good.’ So literally, based on nothing but Ryan’s instinct, and the fact that that was one of his writing tracks in the revisions of Free Guy, we approached Team Mariah and it lead to that song being the signature track. Not only in the movie, but in the campaign for the movie.
                        Wow, I missed this!
                        Thanx for sharing!
                        Those are amazing news! So we weren't wrong!

                        Watch Fantasy numbers going up!
                        I hope the movie is a smash, it looks so cool by the trailers we've seen!

                        Originally posted by mm2912 View Post
                        I think will be more eminent than that. The song was writing into the script and the story. And the story is about a fantasy land so I think will play to song very heavily throughout the movie and probably the ending credits as well. Can’t wait to find out
                        I know!

                        I mean, they even used a new mix of the song #excited

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                        • Originally posted by MayoAndMustard View Post
                          Omg at how fast those runs are and her agility here is just out of the world! She just sounds identical to the album version here.
                          She was Queen Of Agility in 2013.

                          I mean...





                          Her falsetto/whisper/head voice runs were faster than light itself.

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                          • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                            I don't think its needed to be so dismissive of other peoples opinions. We dont need to have heard SUD ( even though we have heard it) to wonder if someone with a fragile voice who also had nodules did not do some sort of damage or at least put herself under a lot of strain by recording Daydream all day and then spending the nights writing and recording SUD. I think its a valid point and is an interesting thing to consider. I mean when was she even sleeping at that point? And Mariah has said herself that sleep is so important to her voice.
                            I agree. It’s impossible to say for sure of course. But it’s something to consider.

                            I don’t think her vocal prowess is fragile though. Far from it.
                            I just think her situation with the nodules makes her in need of special vocal care and attention.
                            Everything, it only fades...

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                            • THE FLEX.

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                              • My All - Mariah Carey (live at Boston)



                                The tone and the agility she served on this tour

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                                • Originally posted by AlmondBreeze View Post

                                  Me too and not in a way that is meant to be shady to Meemz, who is the best ever. Because her voice is a 8th wonder of the world, we just want to know and understand it more, to marvel at it from all angles.

                                  But I also understand that no-one wants to air their less than sunny parts of their past/history for analysis. It's like what Tina Turner said somewhere - she hates it that her worst part of her life is what she is remembered for and is what everyone keeps on wanting to ask her about, when she herself has accepted the past and moved on.
                                  There is a lot of truth in this which I completely understand. However well she already aired much of her laundry tbh with the book.
                                  Everything, it only fades...

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                                  • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                                    I don't think its needed to be so dismissive of other peoples opinions. We dont need to have heard SUD ( even though we have heard it) to wonder if someone with a fragile voice who also had nodules did not do some sort of damage or at least put herself under a lot of strain by recording Daydream all day and then spending the nights writing and recording SUD. I think its a valid point and is an interesting thing to consider. I mean when was she even sleeping at that point? And Mariah has said herself that sleep is so important to her voice.
                                    Thank you but this will totally be ignored. And unfortunately dismissive is the name of game with a few of these members.

                                    I only brought up SUD because Mariah did so I thought it was fair game to discuss how it might have affected the evolution of her voice. That is what usually happens on a message board. Unfortunately two or three members are the gatekeepers to what is allowed to be discussed.

                                    Boooooring
                                    Last edited by tee; Mon July 19, 2021, 17:26.

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                                    • tee your point is noted. You are free to discuss whatever you wish no matter if "two or three members" are gatekeeping. However, note that the moderation team is charged with moving discussions along if they see fit. You are welcome to discuss this privately with me or any other moderator, as you may be at risk of derailing into an off topic discussion with continued public comments.
                                      See The Mariah Carey Discography Rate
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                                      • 99% of Mariah's songs ... especially the ballads.... are un-singable today... bc nobody has the range or vocal timbre to do them justice anymore... (same goes for any Whitney song).
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                                        • Covers of MC songs only work, when the covering act is not trying to sing the song like Mariah... but makes it their own... re-arrange the whole thing etc. That is why David Cook's ABMB rendition sounds so wonderful bc it is basically a new song bc it is a different genre.
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                                          • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                                            Covers of MC songs only work, when the covering act is not trying to sing the song like Mariah... but makes it their own... re-arrange the whole thing etc. That is why David Cook's ABMB rendition sounds so wonderful bc it is basically a new song bc it is a different genre.
                                            Agreed. Mariah and Whitneys tones are both unmatched and anyone else singing them in their arrangements, even if they can hit the notes, just sounds like bad karaoke to me.
                                            " And i think you should take a second just to look at your reflection
                                            Baby maybe you're the problem "

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                                            • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                                              Agreed. Mariah and Whitneys tones are both unmatched and anyone else singing them in their arrangements, even if they can hit the notes, just sounds like bad karaoke to me.
                                              I had to endure to many My All covers on German Idol... and while those women could sing well, they couldn't sing that song... it sounded so bad. To be able to sing a Mariah song (as a female)... it should be mandatory to at least have a deep voice... or a super raspy voice like Sia... otherwise it indeed sounds like bad karaoke.
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                                              • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

                                                I had to endure to many My All covers on German Idol... and while those women could sing well, they couldn't sing that song... it sounded so bad. To be able to sing a Mariah song (as a female)... it should be mandatory to at least have a deep voice... or a super raspy voice like Sia... otherwise it indeed sounds like bad karaoke.
                                                For me it would have been super interesting to have had Whitney do a Mariah song and Mariah do a Whitney song ( studio version ) but record it as if it was their own song ( like not copying the arrangement) Like Mariah doing IWALY and Whitney doing Vision of Love or sth like that.
                                                " And i think you should take a second just to look at your reflection
                                                Baby maybe you're the problem "

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                                                • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                                                  For me it would have been super interesting to have had Whitney do a Mariah song and Mariah do a Whitney song ( studio version ) but record it as if it was their own song ( like not copying the arrangement) Like Mariah doing IWALY and Whitney doing Vision of Love or sth like that.
                                                  The one song, I would like Mariah to cover was Whitney's timeless and soul saving rendition of "I love the lord".

                                                  That Preacher's Wife Soundtrack was and remains the greatest album ever, by anyone.
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                                                  • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

                                                    The one song, I would like Mariah to cover was Whitney's timeless and soul saving rendition of "I love the lord".

                                                    That Preacher's Wife Soundtrack was and remains the greatest album ever, by anyone.
                                                    Listen to Whitney do I love the lord live in Morocco 2008 and Have a blessed night
                                                    " And i think you should take a second just to look at your reflection
                                                    Baby maybe you're the problem "

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