Mariah Carey

[stevyy]

We all know that Madonna is an insecure bit**..
She is infamous for that..
She hates Mariah... probably jealousy of singing ability
She can't sing.. even worse than JLo

I think J.Lo is a worse singer than Madonna. I think Madonna has a decent voice. I like her voice. She is good in ballads. You'll See is one of my favs.

[stevyy]

InFamous wrong timeline.

[stevyy]

Imagine calling this anything, but great!

[stevyy]

divine.

[skylynx]

I wonder what made Madonna feel that Mariah is stupid or not particularly bright. Since they’ve never met or had a conversation, which goes to show some people can judge you by the vibe you’re giving. Or Madge is just pressed that she feels Mariah is controlled and just obeyed whereas she had to fight tooth and nail to break it in the industry in the 80s.

I do hope one of these days these two can actually have a conversation and at least a photo. I can’t have the two biggest female acts in history go without having a momment.

[skylynx]

The 90s is such a far cry from now. The biggest acts barely see or talk to each other whereas today everyone is collating with everyone.

[RayRay]

The 90s is such a far cry from now. The biggest acts barely see or talk to each other whereas today everyone is collating with everyone.

We got some of the most iconic collabs in the 90s though:

Mariah & Whitney
Brandy & Monica
Steisand & Dion
Mariah & Boyz II Men
Mariah & Brian McKnight
Mariah & Luther
Janet & Luther
Michael & Janet
Streisand & Bryan Adams
George Michael & Elton John
Tina Arena & Marc Anthony
Whitney & Enrique
Whitney & George Michael
Whitney & Deborah Cox
Whitney & Faith Evans & Kelly Price
Whitney & Bobby Brown
Andrea Bocceli & Sarah Brightman
Xtina & Ricky Martin
Toni Braxton & Babyface

[tee]

There were rumors at the time that Vadge was trying to sabotage Kween’s set at Live 8. So there might have been some animosity over that.

I’ll grant you the Celina one was random af but I don’t think that was a serious quarrel like the Vadge or J.No feuds. In fact, there was a video from the early 2010s where Kween thanked Celina for her advice over having twins. Sadly, when Celina lost her brother and husband in a short span a few years later, Kween respectfully gave her condolences. I don’t know why she brought it up again in her memoirs, but I guess Kween felt that it was interesting enough to revisit that chapter in her life. I guess when Kween feels you haven’t given the proper respect to the all-time #1 black queen, she has to give it to you straight.

I mean I get your point BUT if I used pet names like these for other female acts I would have been reprimanded by the forum moderator but I guess once again the rules only apply with a bias.

So i will say it! Lets refrain from name calling, please.

[tee]

We all know that Madonna is an insecure bit**..
She is infamous for that..
She hates Mariah... probably jealousy of singing ability
She can't sing.. even worse than JLo

How is this talk even allowed? I commented one time about Jlos relationship with ARod and I was being threatened with a violation and yet this is going on blatantly in the Mariah thread!? What I said wasnt even bad nor was it name calling...

can we please not feel the need to judge other other female singers and their abilities especially since Mariah is a far cry from 1991 and almost on par with Madonna & Jlo voice wise now

[Juancito75]

How is this talk even allowed? I commented one time about Jlos relationship with ARod and I was being threatened with a violation and yet this is going on blatantly in the Mariah thread!? What I said wasnt even bad nor was it name calling...

can we please not feel the need to judge other other female singers and their abilities especially since Mariah is a far cry from 1991 and almost on par with Madonna & Jlo voice wise now

Really? Mariah of course is not close to her prime vocally wise, but seriously , not even in 100 reencarnations will any of those both entertainers be able to do 10% of what Mariah did with her WBT Valentine mix.

[allygdale]

I think J.Lo is a worse singer than Madonna. I think Madonna has a decent voice. I like her voice. She is good in ballads. You'll See is one of my favs.

Madonna’s vocal tone is soothing and iconic, her range is standard but who cares

Mariah is a SANGer, in a league with only the best vocalists

If I failed to mention anyone, I must be forgetful

[Goldmoney]

I mean I get your point BUT if I used pet names like these for other female acts I would have been reprimanded by the forum moderator but I guess once again the rules only apply with a bias.

So i will say it! Lets refrain from name calling, please.

Yeesh, no wonder no one outside the perimeters of this topic wants anything to do with it if glum responses like these are to be expected. Let me exit before I turn into a plank.

[Sebastian]

I wonder what made Madonna feel that Mariah is stupid or not particularly bright. Since they’ve never met or had a conversation, which goes to show some people can judge you by the vibe you’re giving. Or Madge is just pressed that she feels Mariah is controlled and just obeyed whereas she had to fight tooth and nail to break it in the industry in the 80s.

I do hope one of these days these two can actually have a conversation and at least a photo. I can’t have the two biggest female acts in history go without having a momment.

I think Madonna said what she said about Mariah in the 90s (that she would kill herself rather than being Mariah Carey) because she had this perception that Mariah was being controlled by her label and was basically a puppet that was married to the label boss, and couldn't have a word on her career. It's fair to say that, to some extent, some of those things were true. And since Madonna stood out for freedom and transgression, the image of the sweet and poppy girl next door Mariah had at the time was what it was for her. We can't know if Madonna was aware of Mariah's artistic abilities, at the time or after that. But I think they've both moved on from that and Mariah has said nice things about Madonna ever since. Like someone else said, the 90s are long gone.

[Tomer_MC]

Some very delusional reading the past few pages

[stevyy]

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Really? Mariah of course is not close to her prime vocally wise, but seriously , not even in 100 reencarnations will any of those both entertainers be able to do 10% of what Mariah did with her WBT Valentine mix.

That WBT extended version is the best thing MIMI did since Caution... such a great rendition. It's far better than the original studio version of WBT. In that version... Mariah's transcends music genres and goes back and forth between them - notably jazz and pop and R&B... for the live in me I cannot see J.Lo replicate that. So, I agree with you. I find it funny that some people would even suggest that.

[Sebastian]

Madonna’s vocal tone is soothing and iconic, her range is standard but who cares

Mariah is a SANGer, in a league with only the best vocalists

If I failed to mention anyone, I must be forgetful

Of course they're both in different levels when it comes to singing, since Madonna was never portraided as a vocalist, but she actually had a very good training for Evita and it really helped her in the following years (especially on Ray of Light). She can really put emotion into her singing so she can't be just written off as a vocalist (check her version of If You Go Away).

[stevyy]

I think Madonna said what she said about Mariah in the 90s (that she would kill herself rather than being Mariah Carey) because she had this perception that Mariah was being controlled by her label and was basically a puppet that was married to the label boss, and couldn't have a word on her career. It's fair to say that, to some extent, some of those things were true. And since Madonna stood out for freedom and transgression, the image of the sweet and poppy girl next door Mariah had at the time was what it was for her. We can't know if Madonna was aware of Mariah's artistic abilities, at the time or after that. But I think they've both moved on from that and Mariah has said nice things about Madonna ever since. Like someone else said, the 90s are long gone.

What I don't get about Madonna is that she is heralded as this free spirit, this trailblazer and yet tore another female down who was living her truth... and when Mariah broke free... there were no words of celebration from Madonna, instead MadonnaNation.com went up and her fans were plotting MC killing fantasies and shamed her in the most ridiculous ways. But I digress... It's probably what pop culture demands of people... As many people have said, there is no bad blood between the two and some sort of them meeting would literally make my world stop.

[delapuerta]

Lol at everything. I love how the trolls keep trolling on here like nothing
Love all these queens and stop pitching these women against each other. Also they're entitled to express their opinion about others.
lol ×10000000 to the one who says Mariah's voice was shot during DL

[stevyy]

Lol at everything. I love how the trolls keep trolling on here like nothing
Love all these queens and stop pitching these women against each other. Also they're entitled to express their opinion about others.
lol ×10000000 to the one who says Mariah's voice was shot during DL

that was a ridiculous comment, I agree.

[InFamous]

The No 1. that got away. Should have been single No 2 from Einstein

[myworld]

The fact she recorded a more difficult version of WBT earlier this year clearly shows that she is STILL in a league of her own vocally, certainly not on par with the aforementioned singers

[InFamous]

FANTASY has debuted at 90 on this weeks singles SALES chart in the UK

[mm2912]

Imma just leave this here. I’ve never seen this before!

No, she’s not.

Never seen this before and she didn’t lie tho. That woman was trying to insult every big female singer that was making success in the 90s. I call that insecurity too

[stevyy]

Never seen this before and she didn’t lie tho. That woman was trying to insult every big female singer that was making success in the 90s. I call that insecurity too

It was also cool to shade fellow singers at the time... it has this rock & roll attitude to it.

[Goldmoney]

This is the video the clip comes from cause some people were thinking it was edited. 2:18