Mariah Carey

[skylynx]

I have now played FILAC 427x - making this the biggest 1 week debut ever. EVER.

262x - Original
85x - Extended Radio
80x - Radio Version

additionally, I have also bought all three versions from amazon.

FILAC has now also become my overall 18th most played Mariah Carey song since 2011 on LastFM.

My overall most played Mariah song since 2011 is Giving Me Life with 1,286 streams.

You really like it don't you LOL!

Have you been listening to anything else this week?

[skylynx]

Doing a video like 2019's AIWFCIY for CBPCH would be an excellent idea, with all the money she's made from these latest brand deals, it would definitely be nice for her reinvest that into a new MV!

Yes, and it may not even be that hard. She can coat-tail on the Apple Special to spin-off a proper video.

The AIW video was clearly funded in multiple directions, Walkers used part of it so they must have part funded it.

Why not get McDonalds to part-fund CBPCH and play on having your baby back home for Christmas and meeting in a McDonald's store and enjoy some lovely little apple pies.

[skylynx]

Hopefully Mariah includes C(BPCH) in the new Xmas TV special - they can then use that clip as an official video for the song and it can be the smash it deserves. It is absolutely the best rendition of the song - better than the original or any other cover. Vanilla Prime-riah belts everywhere - exactly what the public expect from her.

It's got to be in this year's special. It should be the highlight because she's clearly used most of her other big ones. She can't possibly do O Holy Night again.

I think we'll at least get

* CBPCH
* Hark the Herald (properly tthis time)
* O Come All ye Faithful (with a full choir)

Clearly she's done CTIITAA and WCC so this time it must be Jesus Born On This Day or One Child in addition to Fall In Love At Christmas. I've given up hope on Miss you Most (it's a hard song to sing and she has not attempted it live and I doubt she ever will)

There must also be a new cover of sorts. Apple would've insisted on it I think.

[skylynx]

Bublés album as a whole definitely does better than MC.. Mariah needs to get those videos made to get the same full album streams.

She already has two very good videos with funding from other sources. She needs to continue down that line I think, that's the only way we can see life in some of these other behemoths in her catalogue.

[Almond]

My theory is that Buble's albums are more successful than Meemz' cos his album/songs are so easy listening that they can be played in the background noise/ambience (kind of like FILAC and CTIITA). Whereas Mariah's 2 Xmas albums are so bombastic - the production and her voice command attention and force the listener to pay attention (like a fire brigade siren) - this is not suitable for all occassions and can annoy people. You can listen to Bubles' albums anytime (or in my case, never ) whereas Mariah's songs are like "events".

[Almond]

As for the Macca's tie-up - well, I never expected it but I am proud of Mimi. McDonalds is one of the most successful businesses of ALL TIME. A true business world Icon and innovator (inventor of the standardised fast food franchise model !!!) and an absolute blue chip global behemoth. Just like Mariah in the music world. McDonalds is used as the comparable standard in global world economic prices, for goodness sake!

It is a HUGE achievement for Mariah to get McDonalds to alter their iconic packaging and menu just for our Fave. McDonald is for the masses, just like Mariah's xmas songs. Together, they create an affordable way for all families (and non-families) to experience a little festive cheer during a horrible time in the world. McDonalds get to benefit from a sales uplift and free publicity by associating itself with AIWFCIY (the song of the Millenium, I don't need to wait for Billboard to tell me that), and Mariah gets across the board mass publicity of her brand and relevancy from McDonalds' unbeatable reach across all demographics in America. Boom! Whatever we may think about Macca's food's nutritional value, it is a total win overall for Mariah.

[skylynx]

OMG i've been waiting for this 5-way matchup for so long.....

80s:
* They picked the wrong debut single for Whitney though her 7 straight #1 streak through the mid to late 80s is just insane. Has not been matched since.
* Still surprises me that Janet was really the first one out there hitting the charts, though probably shouldn't be a surprise considering her family legacy and her being a childstar
* The mid-80s was a car crash, they were going at it. I wonder what it must've felt like at the time when you have Madonna, Whitney and Janet all killing it
* Madonna and Janet truly bloomed in the late 90s, they were consistently doing very well on the charts with very strong projects

90s:
* OMG, Vision of Love blocked Come Back To Me by Janet. Argh i love that song from Janet. Why didn't you let that song breathe Mariah!!! It deserves a #1 as well.
* Black Cat vs. Love Takes Time vs. I'm Your Baby Tonight vs. Justify My Love followed by Love Will Never Do vs. All The Man That I Need vs. Someday all #1s within weeks of each other. The girls were slaying '91
* Emotions era went largely unchallenged from the other girls
* Whitney was so powerful during the Bodyguard era, only Janet was the only one able to challenge not Madonna
* Again vs. Hero - oh my, why are Mariah and Janet's great songs always at it
* Celine came out of the shadows finally with The Power of Love, too bad it kinda blocked Without You. People can't handle too power ballads? What's wrong with people LOL
* Runaway was blocked by Fantasy. Dammit Mariah! She has blocked Janet 3 times now
* Fantasy vs. Exhale vs. OSD vs. Because You love Me vs. Always Be My Baby will forever be iconic. Mariah could've gotten 3 straight #1 debuts, Celine doesn't care. All during this time Madonna, was languishing and couldn't compete.
* Celine's It's All Coming Back To Me Now should've been #1, it was at #2 for so long.
* Frozen till this day, I keep thinking it was a #1. Amongst Madonna's greatest hits, this one signalled her return back to the pop charts in the 90s.
* My All didn't have much staying power
* To this day I still don't know why a song like When You Believe can fail to crack the top 10 when I Still Believe can
* Thank God I Found You coming out of nowhere to get to the top, sales come through

00s:
* Doesn't Really Matter vs. Music - wow!
* Star Spangled banner - can there be a smoother rise and fall?
* Janet's Feel It Boy - oh that's a nice beat, how come i haven't really heard this before?
* A New Day Has Come, something about that era just gave off vibes of a slightly watered down Celine, i.e. AC was no longer kinda popular
* So nice to see Mimi back on the upper echelons with I Know What You want, this time with a lasting hit
* It's Like That and U Make Me Wanna came pretty close to each other, i always thought there was a bigger gap between her post Charmbracelet hiatus and TEOM
* 15:05 I hate you Gold Digger, i remember living the momment and felt a sense of frustration that it couldn't get to #1. Though Gold Digger as soon as I heard it I knew it was a hit, they should've supressed WBT for a week. I would rather a 13 week WBT and an 18# #1 then a 14 week WBT
* Interesting how Hung Up couldn't hit Top 5, it was huge everywhere else in the world
* I still remember the Touch My Body vs. Bleeding Love vs. 4 Minutes vs. Love In This Club battle, was very tense and was great to see Mimi back ontop.

10s:
* #Beautiful should've been pushed much harder, that crappy video ruined it.
* Mariah the only one doing anything meaningful this side of 10s.

[carey18ph]

And this is the reason why i'm good with her putting more effort on her xmas stuff than non-Christmas coz obviously this is where the moolah is now for her. I wonder which major brand she'll collab next.

[InFamous]

https://www.newsweek.com/mariah-care...-1648340?amp=1

Details are out. The so called Mariah Menu is just free items that are permanent stables of the McDonalds menu after you spend $1. Each day is just a different “freebie” but the items are not specialized or Mariah specific. Just the plain old burgers, fries, nuggets, apple pies.

It’s lazy. The worst part is Mariah blasted this on social media but McDonalds doesn’t even mention it on their site anywhere.

They played her and her team.

What did you expect? A Mariah shaped burger or chicken nuggets with MC on it? It's fast food no one who goes there cares about Mariah food items lol

[skylynx]

And this is the reason why i'm good with her putting more effort on her xmas stuff than non-Christmas coz obviously this is where the moolah is now for her. I wonder which major brand she'll collab next.

Coca-Cola seems logical. It's the biggest brand left out of the mainstream ones.

I can't see her collaborating with the like of LVMH which has a certain aesthetic. Though perhaps one of the major car manufactorers....you know, "Hondas, Lexus, and Rovers" though I hope she means Range Rover LOL.

I personally would love a Mariah x Honda collaboration, not because it makes sense but it brings together two of my favourites.

[NorthernMonkey]

My theory is that Buble's albums are more successful than Meemz' cos his album/songs are so easy listening that they can be played in the background noise/ambience (kind of like FILAC and CTIITA). Whereas Mariah's 2 Xmas albums are so bombastic - the production and her voice command attention and force the listener to pay attention (like a fire brigade siren) - this is not suitable for all occassions and can annoy people. You can listen to Bubles' albums anytime (or in my case, never ) whereas Mariah's songs are like "events".

Lol this is a very good analogy to be honest

[InFamous]

Buble has released two videos to some of his Christmas songs, he's pushing hard for those Christmas coins as well. Mariah may be the face of Christmas but he's the giant killer in the background with his whole album getting crazy streams.

This song is crying out for a AIWFCIY (MMWCT) style video. It's the closest sonically she has to AIWFCIY and is far and away her 2nd biggest Christmas song and in many people's minds is the definitive version.

Not sure if I agree. Darlenes version charts every year and gets plenty of airplay. I like Mariahs version but it's generally just the lambs who claim it as the definitive version. It does well on streaming but Darlene s version is still the most popular overall.

[skylynx]

My theory is that Buble's albums are more successful than Meemz' cos his album/songs are so easy listening that they can be played in the background noise/ambience (kind of like FILAC and CTIITA). Whereas Mariah's 2 Xmas albums are so bombastic - the production and her voice command attention and force the listener to pay attention (like a fire brigade siren) - this is not suitable for all occassions and can annoy people. You can listen to Bubles' albums anytime (or in my case, never ) whereas Mariah's songs are like "events".

That is true, it's one of those family style albums where all ages can enjoy and get on with whatever they're doing.

Songs like AIW and CBPCH is more for those crowds out and about and partying. That's why closer to Christmas we see a slight uptick in streams for the old songs. It's because when families get together, they're more likely going to play a It's Beginning To Look alot Like Christmas then AIW.

Perhaps that's the vibe she was going for with FILAC. My review to come on that.

[skylynx]

And this is the reason why i'm good with her putting more effort on her xmas stuff than non-Christmas coz obviously this is where the moolah is now for her. I wonder which major brand she'll collab next.

Well i think she's doing enough for Christmas. She can't keep going at this pace every year.....i'm interested to see if it can get any bigger in 2-3 years time. She has surprised every year with new stuff so you never know.

Though i disagree. She should focus back on MC16 and get that launched properly with super slick promo and an actual era. We've now gone 3 years without a proper new album. There needs to be an investment, we can't just have another low-key Caution style launch. With all those Christmas coins, why not give it one last big crack TEOM style.

[skylynx]

Hopefully Mariah includes C(BPCH) in the new Xmas TV special - they can then use that clip as an official video for the song and it can be the smash it deserves. It is absolutely the best rendition of the song - better than the original or any other cover. Vanilla Prime-riah belts everywhere - exactly what the public expect from her.

Exactly, the public doesn't need to hear FILAC, they need it served straight up vocals and simple singing. Even if it's rangy like CBPCH the actual verses and words are simple to make out and sing in a different key.

With Christmas, the simpler the better, too many stuff being flung doesn't work (looking at you Oh Santa but i still like you in small doses).

[allygdale]

I’m a rock and R&B bish but I really want more C+C Morales remix type dance songs from Mariah, even if they are like five minutes instead of 10, she’s absolutely the queen of them and hardly anyone knows about it

It’s an album or an EP she could probably make in a month, it’s those songs she can write in 15 minute minutes with pop hooks a la Caution or Rainbow or E and just straight SANGING, she can leave most of the production to the producer, she can produce the background singers’ vocals

It would appeal to way more than lambily too, she would get ALL the holy OHOMOs and all dance music fans on board, critics and Grammy people who aren’t lambily would be like “omg something different from her”

And releasing that (“experimental” but mainstream, like Madonna and Cher in their decade but the music more authentic lol) and Chick (cute but rock) and the album she recorded this year (experimental, R&B?) would secure Rock & Roll HOF

I don’t think the OG vocals Chick should be served with more Rarities btw, it’s a totally different sound and deserves its own moment

[skylynx]

Ok, kinda obsessed with this Janet song that I just discovered by listening to the other video. I'm a sucker for this type of beat it's like Lauryn Hill's That Thing

Does anyone know if there's a special term for that type of base line, where it's like a 1-2-1 beat.

Imagine Mariah over a beat like this. I think i said it before, but Mariah over a more urgent beat like this could work.

[bm08]

Bublés album as a whole definitely does better than MC.. Mariah needs to get those videos made to get the same full album streams.

Yeah I think so. Though, to be fair, it does reasonably okay.

Not sure how much more she could push the album as she has done the vinyl and other physical re-releases.

So maybe doing some music videos could be the best next step?

[bm08]

[delapuerta]

Gorgeous

[Sebastian]

She looks like royalty here.

[RayRay]

I wonder if there are any lambs who get a job at McDonald's just to get their hands on the crew t-shirt in December.

[Sebastian]

Regarding C(BPCH), I agree a music video could do wonders for it. Imagine if she drops it along a vinyl/CD single release. It could even chart on the Hot 100 if airplay is high.

[InFamous]

Yeah I think so. Though, to be fair, it does reasonably okay.

Not sure how much more she could push the album as she has done the vinyl and other physical re-releases.

So maybe doing some music videos could be the best next step?

Music videos would definitely help. Also I agree that she has really done a lot for the album. Although most of the focus, understandably, is on AIWFCIU, and in some places like the UK that does not have the same impact on the album as it does in the US, because of the streams being averaged rule.

[stevyy]

Yeah I think so. Though, to be fair, it does reasonably okay.

Not sure how much more she could push the album as she has done the vinyl and other physical re-releases.

So maybe doing some music videos could be the best next step?

Besides Bublé's album, Mariah's original Xmas album... (incl. the 2019 re-release) is always the 2nd best selling xmas album globally every year now. While he is pushing for 600k-700k globally annually... she is pushing for 500k annually. The difference gets smaller and smaller.

Both will surpass Elvis Presley's album and become the #1 and #2 best "consumed" Xmas albums of all times - probably by 2022.

I think the top 5 are:

01 - 22 million sps - Elvis
02 - 20 million sps - Mariah
03 - 19 million sps - Michael
04 - 15 million sps - Dion
05 - 12 million sps - Mannheim Steamroller (1994)

01 - 20 million sales - Elvis
02 - 15 million sales - Mariah
03 - 14 million sales - Michael
04 - 13 million sales - Dion
05 - 10 million sales - Mannheim

Josh Groban will enter the top 5 probably at the end of this season as well, kicking Mannheim Steamroller (1994) out of the top 5.

Another notable release is Streisand's album which is also ringing on the 10 million sales mark.