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  • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    Music videos would definitely help. Also I agree that she has really done a lot for the album. Although most of the focus, understandably, is on AIWFCIU, and in some places like the UK that does not have the same impact on the album as it does in the US, because of the streams being averaged rule.
    It re-entered the official chart there for the first time ever in 2020. I hope it can chart for 2 weeks or maybe even 3 weeks there this year.

    The album's most supportive markets in Europe are Italy and Netherlands (by sales) and the entire Scandinavian league by chartruns.

    France is probably one of the weakest markets for the album and I have 0 idea why that is. The album is believed to have sold less than 100k there, despite being at over 300k in both Germany and UK and over 400k in Italy (and at around 3 million in Japan).
    My Chart

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    • Originally posted by bm08 View Post


      I wonder who’s been her stylist lately. She just looks so on point in the above, as well as in FILAC’s video.

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      • And THAT is Mariah Carey bitches

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        • Originally posted by RayRay View Post
          I wonder if there are any lambs who get a job at McDonald's just to get their hands on the crew t-shirt in December.
          My first thought too

          Big rush to sign up for work - 40 year old men and women from the corporate sector doing weekend drive through shifts
          MESMARIAHSING!

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          • Originally posted by MayoAndMustard View Post

            I wonder who’s been her stylist lately. She just looks so on point in the above, as well as in FILAC’s video.
            Shes been working with Diandre Tristan. But not sure if he is her permanent stylist
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            • Originally posted by bm08 View Post


              Btw, as much as I love and enjoy Mariah talk about the vision and expertise she has in singing, writing and producing songs, I am just not too sure about Mariah doing a MasterClass at this stage of her career, especially as a singer/vocalist.

              It makes more sense for the likes of Anna Wintour, Bobbi Brown, Marc Jacobs and Gordon Ramsey to do so as a Masterclass would compliment their career really well. But for Mariah Carey, this would be something she could do in a decade or two (rather than now), when she will probably be less active in making new music.

              Also, imho, this somehow “cheapens” her Mariah branding as a vocalist and a music writer/producer. I think a singing Masterclass would be more appropriate for the likes of Xtina, Alicia, and Katy Perry, in which the dynamics of their careers is way different to Mariah’s (I love all of them, but they are just not at Mariah’s level at all, which is a fact). Mariah is absolutely not in their league, she’s too important and too ‘big’ as a music icon to do a Masterclass. Maybe in the future, she could have her OWN singing classes, solely exclusive to her under her own branding (Mimi’s Academy? Looool). That sounds much tasteful and classier than a basic Masterclass.
              Last edited by MayoAndMustard; Thu November 11, 2021, 22:30.

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              • Originally posted by bm08 View Post

                Shes been working with Diandre Tristan. But not sure if he is her permanent stylist
                And do you remember, during the Stella era, someone told her (one of her dancers who then later left her team, can’t remember his name...) that she looks ‘better’ with more ‘tits and booty’? Now from what we have seen this year so far, at least in the Masterclass promo pic and FILAC, she looks equally amazing with more conservative outfits.

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                • Originally posted by skylynx View Post

                  Yes, and it may not even be that hard. She can coat-tail on the Apple Special to spin-off a proper video.

                  The AIW video was clearly funded in multiple directions, Walkers used part of it so they must have part funded it.

                  Why not get McDonalds to part-fund CBPCH and play on having your baby back home for Christmas and meeting in a McDonald's store and enjoy some lovely little apple pies.
                  This is actually quite a good idea. Come on MC, make it happen!!

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                  • Originally posted by Almond View Post
                    My theory is that Buble's albums are more successful than Meemz' cos his album/songs are so easy listening that they can be played in the background noise/ambience (kind of like FILAC and CTIITA). Whereas Mariah's 2 Xmas albums are so bombastic - the production and her voice command attention and force the listener to pay attention (like a fire brigade siren) - this is not suitable for all occassions and can annoy people. You can listen to Bubles' albums anytime (or in my case, never ) whereas Mariah's songs are like "events".
                    Agreed, the GP definitely love MB's Christmas songs. Not for me though. Never really listened to his songs. I'd normally go for likes of Nat King Cole, Bing Crosby and Dean Martin for Xmas oldies.

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                    • Wow, they actually met several times. I wonder what Leo thinks of Mariah....

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                      • Fall In Love with Fall In Love At Christmas Time



                        OK amongst all the news of new promotional items. Let's take it back a bit to the single that was released last week. Surely people haven't forgotten about that already.

                        If you recall last week, I despised the snippet and felt that it was the wrong direction and vocally was just not it.

                        Well, none of that has really changed but I have been listening to it daily since it was released and can say that I no longer despise the song. It's actually quite good and I would say much better than the singles like I Don't, Infamous, Save The Day.

                        These days, I listen to the main song more, only when i forget to skip the gospel ending do I let it play....otherwise I most like the combination of the main version minus the gospel ending.

                        The Bad:
                        * Another wasted opportunity to capitalise on the viral tweet. This sound only appeals to a very limited audience, with or without promotion.
                        * It's very busy particularly towards the end, and upon several listens can be very heavy with the bass upon vocals upon vocals, upon shouting and whistling. This type of Christmas sound
                        * The enunciation these days and in this song is very weak. The breathy vocals doesn't help. We thought Grande was bad, this is reaching that territory. When a song is very wordy, the enunciation I think is quite important (unless you're a mumble rapper). Is she singing "angels" or "pangels",
                        * Her vocals, yes we have to accept that this is the state her voice is in but it's just not very pleasant in parts. Very thin, strainy and momments of chipmunkiness (luckily with better mixing than MTEC).
                        * You can hear the limit in her voice these days at 3:20. The word "fall" is super strained, I don't think it's a stylystic choice it's like she's trying to punch that note but comes off a bit flat.
                        * The video is cute in parts but her hand movements yet again is a big problem. What on earth is she doing, it's like she no longer knows how to place her hands in shots. Less is more, act natural. I would take shots of Mariah looking into the distance or walking away from the camera or towards an object any day. Also, not too keen on these super slow mo shots.
                        * A bit too breathy for my tastes. Though I think these days, that's where her voice is most stable and comfortable. I no longer think that it's a stylistic choice, it's clearly where she can control the agility and mask the thinning of her belts. When you are the voice, of course you're not going to say that you no longer can sing those same notes, you have to sidestep it and that's what she's doing.

                        The Good:
                        * I'm pleasantly surprised i'm actually quite liking the song as an easy listening (leave in the background kinda song). It's not going to be a classic I don't think, but another song to mix amongst her other stuff.
                        * As a re
                        * The melody is quite memorable and bittersweet/nostalgic or invokes a sense of loss....which can definitely connect with certain audiences.
                        * It's super smooth and when Mariah enters, the song actually lifts
                        * She is glowing in the video, minus the hand movements and column humping scenes the scenes in that jersey is just perfect.
                        * I said previously that what left is there when the snippet supposedly the best part....Ok I was wrong, the verses are actually quite sublime and and catchy. I have warm fuzzy feelings when she sings the first
                        * 1:23 "I'm awake when no one knows" is a vocal momment, slightly orgasmic.
                        * There voices blend so well....i woulld've loved her to use more straight singing and less breathiness.

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                        • Do you think is there any chance that Mariah is doing Christmas concerts this season? I mean, due to the pandemic. I am asking because many artists are already doing concerts under some covid-19 measures, but we all know Mariah is super careful so I don't know if she feels ready to come back with concerts this year yet. What do you think?

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                          • Ok this kinda hits without the percussion elements......something simple like this work s just as well with minimal production.

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                            • Originally posted by marcomarao View Post
                              Do you think is there any chance that Mariah is doing Christmas concerts this season? I mean, due to the pandemic. I am asking because many artists are already doing concerts under some covid-19 measures, but we all know Mariah is super careful so I don't know if she feels ready to come back with concerts this year yet. What do you think?
                              No chance. Concerts take months to prepare and to promote. A surprise concert would lose money.

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                              • Originally posted by marcomarao View Post
                                Do you think is there any chance that Mariah is doing Christmas concerts this season? I mean, due to the pandemic. I am asking because many artists are already doing concerts under some covid-19 measures, but we all know Mariah is super careful so I don't know if she feels ready to come back with concerts this year yet. What do you think?
                                If she was she probably would’ve announced by now. So I’m pretty sure she’s not doing any Xmas show and she was doing a lot this year no time to prepare for live shows and rehearsals. Probably she’s doing next year and she’s releasing a new album next year she’s probably gonna go on tour

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                                • The MCDonalds memes keep on coming on twitter and are all hilarious. It’s doing wonders to put her back in the spotlight of the GP






                                  Last edited by Xmas; Fri November 12, 2021, 01:54.

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                                  • I got a laugh for like 10 min straight when I saw her tweet saying deadline was not realy her thing hahahaha

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                                    • Not strictly Mariah related...... BUT OH MY DAYS Silk Sonic's album is the best thing I've heard in years! Praying Mariah is on a remix or something

                                      Bruno's vocals are crazy mariah-esque in some parts too so she'd fit so well on one of the ballads.

                                      ​​​​​​After Last Night, Put on a Smile, Blast Off.... I don't care which one, just give Mariah a verse and some belts on the outro and I'll die happy

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                                      • Originally posted by MayoAndMustard View Post

                                        I wonder who’s been her stylist lately. She just looks so on point in the above, as well as in FILAC’s video.
                                        Wow, she looks like her 1999-2000 singles and Rainbow album covers.

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                                        • To me, she doesnt need both the special and Christmas tour. Unless she is turning one of the shows into the special
                                          See The Mariah Carey Discography Rate
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                                          • Originally posted by Almond View Post
                                            Hopefully Mariah includes C(BPCH) in the new Xmas TV special - they can then use that clip as an official video for the song and it can be the smash it deserves. It is absolutely the best rendition of the song - better than the original or any other cover. Vanilla Prime-riah belts everywhere - exactly what the public expect from her.
                                            Yasss.
                                            The song is hard af to sing tho (Mariah's rendition I mean).

                                            This performance was a serve tho.



                                            Originally posted by Almond View Post
                                            My theory is that Buble's albums are more successful than Meemz' cos his album/songs are so easy listening that they can be played in the background noise/ambience (kind of like FILAC and CTIITA). Whereas Mariah's 2 Xmas albums are so bombastic - the production and her voice command attention and force the listener to pay attention (like a fire brigade siren) - this is not suitable for all occassions and can annoy people. You can listen to Bubles' albums anytime (or in my case, never ) whereas Mariah's songs are like "events".
                                            I highly agree with this

                                            Originally posted by Almond View Post
                                            It is a HUGE achievement for Mariah to get McDonalds to alter their iconic packaging and menu just for our Fave. McDonald is for the masses, just like Mariah's xmas songs. Together, they create an affordable way for all families (and non-families) to experience a little festive cheer during a horrible time in the world. McDonalds get to benefit from a sales uplift and free publicity by associating itself with AIWFCIY (the song of the Millenium, I don't need to wait for Billboard to tell me that), and Mariah gets across the board mass publicity of her brand and relevancy from McDonalds' unbeatable reach across all demographics in America. Boom! Whatever we may think about Macca's food's nutritional value, it is a total win overall for Mariah.
                                            Exactly!
                                            It's a win-win situation.

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                                            • Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                                              The press release:
                                              Thanx for posting this to clarify things.
                                              Some users are making (wrong) conclusions without any solid information.

                                              Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                                              Not sure if I agree. Darlenes version charts every year and gets plenty of airplay. I like Mariahs version but it's generally just the lambs who claim it as the definitive version. It does well on streaming but Darlene s version is still the most popular overall.
                                              It's true, Darlene's version is the most popular - but not for too much.
                                              She released the official vid last year and only amassed 1M views and she's performing the song every year on live TV.
                                              Also the sales difference is minimal.
                                              And in terms of streaming, last year Darlene peaked at 3.3M while Mariah's at 2.6M (on Dec 24th).
                                              And Mimi has never promoted the song - apart of that '08 performance.
                                              Btw, on Spotify, Mariah's version has more streams (little difference tho).

                                              If she would start do to something for the song (a video, a live performance on some TV show), it would become the most popular for sure.

                                              We love Darlene, but the song has lots of potential to be bigger. And could be another entry on the big charts for MC.





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                                              • I love this project and she looks STUNNING.

                                                Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                                                https://twitter.com/MariahTrends/status/1458892423380283394

                                                Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                                                Shes been working with Diandre Tristan. But not sure if he is her permanent stylist
                                                Well, he's doing an amazing job.
                                                He started to work with her for the GMA performances in August 2020, and then he did STD, all the TMOM promo interviews, the Xmas stuff from 2020, the Black Irish commercial and now he's been working again for her since the Halloween vid.

                                                Originally posted by marcomarao View Post
                                                Do you think is there any chance that Mariah is doing Christmas concerts this season?
                                                Not at all.

                                                Originally posted by Xmas View Post
                                                The MCDonalds memes keep on coming on twitter and are all hilarious. It’s doing wonders to put her back in the spotlight of the GP
                                                Some of them are really hilarious ​​​​​​​

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                                                • Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                                                  To me, she doesnt need both the special and Christmas tour. Unless she is turning one of the shows into the special
                                                  Yeah, it would be pointless.
                                                  Tho I miss her live shows so much.
                                                  Especially now that she's in great vocal shape, I want to hear her belt live (and we know vocals on the special are pre-recorded).

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                                                  Wait, she whistled live during the O Come All Ye Faithful live performance at Washington '10.

                                                  Is at the very end (0:16 in the vid) and it's not audible in the aired version.

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                                                  • Mariah looks incredible in that masterclass still
                                                    To avoid any upset, please note; anything I post is purely my opinion. If I feel it is a fact, I will state that I feel it is a fact. Lol.

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