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  • Originally posted by elguachin View Post
    Agreed! Rating numbers were huge, far more successful than Grammy’s, Oscars and the rest of the big shows. I would love a mktg campaign ala Adele. Having Ariana, Anitta, Kelly C., Ryan Reynolds and maybe Taylor as guests as Lizzo for Adele.
    That would be lit, but she will have to rest for a whole week, leave her nerves behind and slay dem performances as we know she could.

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    • I find it odd that 99,9% of all critics of Mariah... have been men. Female celebs... praise her (voice). I wonder why that it.
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      • quite recently... we've had

        Kendrick Lamar
        One dude from Boyz II Men
        Luis Fonsi (+ the Voice panel)
        and... Dionne Warwick.
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        • Kendrick and one Boyz II Men member said something about MC recently?

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          • Originally posted by ElusiveButterfly View Post
            Kendrick and one Boyz II Men member said something about MC recently?
            since 2017. While some odd ones defended her 2017 NYE performance... those BIIM guys went online and shaded her for filth.

            Kendrick... went all out of his way to not sound vitriolic... but at the same time... shaded her ability to emote.
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            • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
              I find it odd that 99,9% of all critics of Mariah... have been men. Female celebs... praise her (voice). I wonder why that it.
              Did you just discover misogyny today?

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              • Dionne Warwick... it wouldn't take that seriously.
                I mean, she thinks Brandy has more legendary status than MC.
                And a few days ago she tweeted to Mariah (on Nov 1st I think) hoping she was having a nice day LMAO.

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                • Originally posted by banksy View Post
                  Did you just discover misogyny today?
                  *Shoking*

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                  • Iconic.

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                    • LOL.
                      You have no other option to love that song.

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                      • The Caution photoshoot is a whole serve.

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                        • Well now we know that waiting for December was the right move for Oh Santa! (Remix) as nobody cares about Mariah’s new Christmas music. Nothing can help her at this stage if she is not in Spotify playlists. At least in December it would have charted in the Holiday 100 chart. This is abysmal considering she made the effort to release a physical copy and music video at the same time

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                          • Originally posted by Xmas View Post
                            Well now we know that waiting for December was the right move for Oh Santa! (Remix) as nobody cares about Mariah’s new Christmas music. Nothing can help her at this stage if she is not in Spotify playlists. At least in December it would have charted in the Holiday 100 chart. This is abysmal considering she made the effort to release a physical copy and music video at the same time

                            I love the song but upon first listen you know it’s not going to be a hit.
                            To avoid any upset, please note; anything I post is purely my opinion. If I feel it is a fact, I will state that I feel it is a fact. Lol.

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                            • Originally posted by Xmas View Post
                              Well now we know that waiting for December was the right move for Oh Santa! (Remix) as nobody cares about Mariah’s new Christmas music. Nothing can help her at this stage if she is not in Spotify playlists. At least in December it would have charted in the Holiday 100 chart. This is abysmal considering she made the effort to release a physical copy and music video at the same time

                              now we know we can’t expect the lead of MC16 to chart no matter if she releases cd singles or whatever. Let’s just enjoy the music and celebrate she’s still releasing. Sometimes a magic happens and something sticks when we’re not waiting for it


                              and I still have hopes Oh Santa remix with be a hit eventually

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                              • Originally posted by mm2912 View Post

                                now we know we can’t expect the lead of MC16 to chart no matter if she releases cd singles or whatever. Let’s just enjoy the music and celebrate she’s still releasing. Sometimes a magic happens and something sticks when we’re not waiting for it


                                and I still have hopes Oh Santa remix with be a hit eventually
                                I disagree with this. I’m 100% confident that FILAC was not the right song to use as a benchmark for that theory. Whilst we love the song (it’s warm, it’s a ballad, the melody is lush etc).. it’s just not hit material. It’s very layered, the ending does not appeal to the masses and it’s just not very exciting or current.. plus, it’s a Christmas song and it’s early November.

                                So to say “now we know that no matter what, the MC16 lead won’t be a hit” is way off. Lol. All she’d need to do is release a banger with a good hook, a clear structure a good video, good promotion and even a feature from someone current if she wanted to. The only thing stopping Mariah from having a hit is that she’s releasing songs that simply aren’t hit material.
                                To avoid any upset, please note; anything I post is purely my opinion. If I feel it is a fact, I will state that I feel it is a fact. Lol.

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                                • Originally posted by Shaka View Post

                                  *Shoking*
                                  What's shoking?
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                                  • Originally posted by NorthernMonkey View Post

                                    I disagree with this. I’m 100% confident that FILAC was not the right song to use as a benchmark for that theory. Whilst we love the song (it’s warm, it’s a ballad, the melody is lush etc).. it’s just not hit material. It’s very layered, the ending does not appeal to the masses and it’s just not very exciting or current.. plus, it’s a Christmas song and it’s early November.

                                    So to say “now we know that no matter what, the MC16 lead won’t be a hit” is way off. Lol. All she’d need to do is release a banger with a good hook, a clear structure a good video, good promotion and even a feature from someone current if she wanted to. The only thing stopping Mariah from having a hit is that she’s releasing songs that simply aren’t hit material.
                                    That's a long list of things she has to do to snag that hit!
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                                    • Christmas songs don't work as regular singles. Most of the Christmas songs released are forgotten, also in the last decade. It needs some time to get into the canon. Oh Santa is starting to have better streaming after last year, but only few songs can make it. We've seen many artists of the moment releasing their Christmas stuff and nothing happened. It's not easy and it doesn't work as regular music

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                                      • Yas Kween, promote the best streaming service.
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                                        • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                                          That's a long list of things she has to do to snag that hit!
                                          Just a requirement for most in the industry. There’s nothing out of the ordinary listed there.
                                          To avoid any upset, please note; anything I post is purely my opinion. If I feel it is a fact, I will state that I feel it is a fact. Lol.

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                                          • Originally posted by NorthernMonkey View Post

                                            Just a requirement for most in the industry. There’s nothing out of the ordinary listed there.
                                            Well it's a rather simplistic view. She could do all that and still not get a hit.
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                                            • Okay can I just say that Ariana Grande (who is like a monster in streaming) recently released a Xmas song with Kelly Clarkson and not even that is lighting up the charts. I'm definitely not worried about Mariah not charting ever again cause you know who will slay for 2 months annually until infinity, period

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                                              • FILAC is a beautiful song

                                                To me it sounds very influenced by With You I’m Born Again

                                                I think it would have more mainstream appeal with just straight full voice vocals and a muscular beat but it’s still enjoyable as is, the soft vocals just don’t cut through the production at all

                                                Oh Santa will grow this year for sure

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                                                • Originally posted by InFamous View Post

                                                  Well it's a rather simplistic view. She could do all that and still not get a hit.
                                                  What Mariah really needs to push for a number 1 debut is to release a single feature your lovely voice

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                                                  • Originally posted by NorthernMonkey View Post

                                                    I disagree with this. I’m 100% confident that FILAC was not the right song to use as a benchmark for that theory. Whilst we love the song (it’s warm, it’s a ballad, the melody is lush etc).. it’s just not hit material. It’s very layered, the ending does not appeal to the masses and it’s just not very exciting or current.. plus, it’s a Christmas song and it’s early November.

                                                    So to say “now we know that no matter what, the MC16 lead won’t be a hit” is way off. Lol. All she’d need to do is release a banger with a good hook, a clear structure a good video, good promotion and even a feature from someone current if she wanted to. The only thing stopping Mariah from having a hit is that she’s releasing songs that simply aren’t hit material.

                                                    In sum she needs a good song with good promo. But realistically, this is true about anything. I will argue you dont need a good song for a hit these days, just good promo (to be read as good investment).

                                                    The reality is that Mariah faces structual barriers that a woman of her colour, of her genre and of her age etc face that others who simply can release a "good" song with "good" promo do not face. It will take quite a lot to break through these issues.

                                                    See The Mariah Carey Discography Rate
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