Mariah Carey

[jr588]

Ok so I know it was 3 years ago, but I really don’t remember reading this interview. I wonder which era Ectasy was from.

and it’s a bummer Tommy destroyed the original VOL video.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...-save-the-day/

[itsawrap]

Mariah looks like Shakira

https://pin.it/3eQhFqN

[Cashiado]

It's nearly my bedtime here in the States. I was looking for some mellow-Mariah to fall asleep too, so I made a 16-track "bedtime" playlist containing a favorite ballad from each album, including Rarities. This is in random order, although the first three are my all time favs...

1. Melt Away
2. Till The End Of Time
3. Music Box
4. I Don't Want To Cry
5. I Only Wanted
6. Fourth Of July
7. Miss You Most
8. After Tonight
9. Never To Far
10. Faded
11. I Stay In Love
12. Mine Again
13. Born Is The King
14. Candy Bling
15. Everything Fades Away
16. One Mo Gen

I'm on track 4 now. Goodnight!

Ok. My sleep soundtrack:

Vanishing
Alone in Love
And You Don’t Remember
Till the End of Time
Music Box
Everything Fades Away
Underneath the Stars
Melt Away
Fourth of July
Babydoll
Close My Eyes
Bliss
Lead the Way
Yours
Circles
Joy Ride
I Wish You Well
Cry.
Giving Me Life
8th Grade

[CasualFlow]

It's nearly my bedtime here in the States. I was looking for some mellow-Mariah to fall asleep too, so I made a 16-track "bedtime" playlist containing a favorite ballad from each album, including Rarities. This is in random order, although the first three are my all time favs...

1. Melt Away
2. Till The End Of Time
3. Music Box
4. I Don't Want To Cry
5. I Only Wanted
6. Fourth Of July
7. Miss You Most
8. After Tonight
9. Never To Far
10. Faded
11. I Stay In Love
12. Mine Again
13. Born Is The King
14. Candy Bling
15. Everything Fades Away
16. One Mo Gen

I'm on track 4 now. Goodnight!

[CasualFlow]

Saving the Diamond status to next would be my preference. More joy and festivities next year. Diamond would be such a great milestone to honour it's 30th anniversary.

A new cert for AIWFCIY this year should be enough. 13 or 14x platinum would be amazing, she does at least 1-1.5x platinum each year it seems these days. Then next year, certify for 15x Platinum.

The current solo female record holder is Katy Perry's Firework at 12x Platinum

The current female title belongs to Halsey's collab with the Chainsmoker's Closer at 15x platinum.

By the end of this decade if all continues the way it is, she could definitely be the first song to crack 20x platinum (unless some of those other songs re-certify earlier).

Diamond and 15P sounds great for MC30.

[itsawrap]

I've been listening to this song for years, but only today found out Jermaine, Bryan Cox, and Johnta Austin wrote it.

[skylynx]

[lambforever]

It was Sunflower by Post Malone, 18x platinum. Not sure if that's still the case though.

Didn't know this got a new cert. Last had it at 17 times platinum with old Town Road

[lambforever]

This makes me wonder. What is the biggest certified song ever in the US? Surely AIWFCIY will get it someday.

Last I remember it's like 4 songs certified over 15 times platinum.

Old Town Road is highest with 17 times platinum.


AIW surely will be highest in 2-3 years

[skylynx]

[skylynx]

I do enjoy our annual recertification updates, but I'd be willing to wait a year for a BIG announcement.

Saving the Diamond status to next would be my preference. More joy and festivities next year. Diamond would be such a great milestone to honour it's 30th anniversary.

A new cert for AIWFCIY this year should be enough. 13 or 14x platinum would be amazing, she does at least 1-1.5x platinum each year it seems these days. Then next year, certify for 15x Platinum.

The current solo female record holder is Katy Perry's Firework at 12x Platinum

The current female title belongs to Halsey's collab with the Chainsmoker's Closer at 15x platinum.

By the end of this decade if all continues the way it is, she could definitely be the first song to crack 20x platinum (unless some of those other songs re-certify earlier).

[Feel_The_Need]

This makes me wonder. What is the biggest certified song ever in the US? Surely AIWFCIY will get it someday.

It was Sunflower by Post Malone, 18x platinum. Not sure if that's still the case though.

[Sebastian]

She can surely be certified 15x platinum for All I want next season if the label wants to and the album can be possibly diamond by then as well

This makes me wonder. What is the biggest certified song ever in the US? Surely AIWFCIY will get it someday.

[lambforever]

I wonder if they would just withhold the certifications for AIWFICY and Merry Christmas until next year for it's 30th Anniversary.

I mean AIWFCIY will surely be at 15x Platinum and Merry Christmas 10x or 11x Platinum.

She can surely be certified 15x platinum for All I want next season if the label wants to and the album can be possibly diamond by then as well

[lambforever]

In somewhat unrelated news, if anybody has heard about the downfall of Rolling Stone founder Jann Wenner, who doubled down on his racism and misogyny in an interview responding to criticism that his book "The Masters" deliberately excluded black and women artists. Of course Jann Wenner is a symptom of a broader cultural rot, but this shows how biased music critique of the last century has been towards the specific tastes of a single demographic (of men).

So for all those hallmark critiques that seemed to follow Mariah throughout the 90's (she's too plastic, un-soulful singing, saccharine lyrics, etc.) Let's remember that many, if not all, of those comments were in bad faith to begin with. But even then, pop music critics have always been the least credible in the world of the performing arts. Critics of movies, theatre and other mediums go to school to cultivate their perspective. Rolling Stone critics of the late 20th century were failed rock band musicians.

There IS a reason why Mariah is suddenly the "greatest living singer" (determined by Rolling Stone). The generation of Jan Wenner didn't change their minds over night - it's because pop music critique has started to reflect a more diverse demographic of race, gender, background, and taste. A positive sign of the change, a part of the music industry that has only recently committed to remediating itself.

Saw the news on Twitter. Thanks for your input

[CasualFlow]

I wonder if they would just withhold the certifications for AIWFICY and Merry Christmas until next year for it's 30th Anniversary.

I mean AIWFCIY will surely be at 15x Platinum and Merry Christmas 10x or 11x Platinum.

I do enjoy our annual recertification updates, but I'd be willing to wait a year for a BIG announcement.

[CasualFlow]

[CasualFlow]

We shouldn't be so quick to just say her catalogue is worth 1billion just back on the value of MC. 3/4 of her other albums surely wouldn't be worth as much as say, Perry's first 3 albums from a business perspective I think.

She's a songwriter. She'll never part with any of her catalog. Who knows what it's worth, but 1B is a real possibility. Certainly much more than Kate's catalog.

[Mugen]

I thought 30th anniversary of Music Box was going to chart this week but it didn't anywhere. But then I learned that the few retailers shipping out the physical release aren't doing it until February.

[skylynx]

Not sure why it's even doubt these days, Drake, Taylor and Rihanna will all surpass Mariah in due time. The way that all these artist can launch and go straight to the top due to the inherent fanbase they have on streaming.

Any reasonably pushed song they release is bound to go Top 5. then if it's a weak chart weak they'll go to the top with just streaming alone.

But seriously, who can even name more than 3-4 of Drake's songs. That guy has one of the most mediocre list of #1s of all artists with more than 10 songs and most of them are collabs.

[carey18ph]

In other news, seems like Drake is poised to get his 12th no. 1 with Slime you out. His other efforts were blocked but not this one, unfortunately. Apparently, not a threat for now but he really has the potential.

[skylynx]

The September milestones keep coming....

[skylynx]

This was a momment, she was so raw and in her feels....

[skylynx]

I wonder if they would just withhold the certifications for AIWFICY and Merry Christmas until next year for it's 30th Anniversary.

I mean AIWFCIY will surely be at 15x Platinum and Merry Christmas 10x or 11x Platinum.

[skylynx]

We shouldn't be so quick to just say her catalogue is worth 1billion just back on the value of MC. 3/4 of her other albums surely wouldn't be worth as much as say, Perry's first 3 albums from a business perspective I think.

It's quite fascinating the reasons why some do sell their catalogue. All very logical.

* Cash lump sum which they can use now
* Tax Implications of gains vs. ongoing revenue
* Avoiding infighting amongst the family when the artists goes
* Making it less of a headache to manage revenue streams when you get older or gone
* Breathing new life into old projects, cause the new owner would surely have more impetus to promote


Obviously it's for Mariah to decide what is best for her. I can definitely see her keeping hold of Merry Christmas regardless. That wouldn't be up for negotiation. And clearly the fight her whole life to write and hold on to what she can of her art may override everything.

However, it wouldn't be a total suprirse if she offloads albums like debut, emotions, glitter, charmbracelet, e=mc2, MOAI, MIAM and Caution which frankly, aren't really doing that much or have long term potential (maybe debut). The issue is that i don't think anyone would just want to buy these if they weren't attached to the crown jewels like Music Box, Daydream or TEOM. Those albums will become bargaining chips if she ever is to sell the majority of her catalogue


https://variety.com/2023/music/news/...ic-1235726293/

https://abcnews.go.com/US/legendary-...20Aswad%20said.

https://uproxx.com/music/why-are-art...heir-catalogs/