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  • Originally posted by MeltAway View Post

    Ummm...Spotify who?

    If 3.5 million is the spread, that's HUGE! This whole time I figured Pandora was contributing to her streaming count. But no. This week it is and it appears to have widened the spread. If AIW ever gets added to the Classic Christmas playlist on Spotify it's game over. No contest. The song is a beast.
    Doesn’t that 3.5 million spread show the impact of calling out Pandora for their shadiness though? I think it was a stitch in time…She jumped from having only 81K listeners (can you imagine!) to 5.9 million this week. Some of this is definitely Pandora.

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    • Originally posted by Askforsnow View Post

      Doesn’t that 3.5 million spread show the impact of calling out Pandora for their shadiness though? I think it was a stitch in time…She jumped from having only 81K listeners (can you imagine!) to 5.9 million this week. Some of this is definitely Pandora.
      Ha I think we might have been saying the same thing about Pandora adding to the gap, yasss! and I agree it’s game over should she get added to the classics playlist.
      Last edited by Askforsnow; Mon December 20, 2021, 03:15.

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      • Originally posted by Askforsnow View Post

        Ha I think we might have been saying the same thing about Pandora adding to the gap, yasss! and I agree it’s game over should she get added to the classics playlist.
        Yes but now even without that playlist she is miles ahead. But I agree that the whole thing with the Pandora situation is really fishy. Luckily, they’ve been called out and actions has been taken properly.
        She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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        • Originally posted by MrDash View Post

          Yes but now even without that playlist she is miles ahead. But I agree that the whole thing with the Pandora situation is really fishy. Luckily, they’ve been called out and actions has been taken properly.
          If I think about it, the Pandora thing might not have been just Mariah thing (sabotage) but also a Sony thing. Maybe Sony wasn’t pushing or doing something like Universal is with their Christmas artists this year.

          I mean besides Brenda Lee, Kelly Clarkson is so popular on Pandora, I’d say, she’s the Queen of Pandora Christmas because her label have her doing all sorts of ads and promos on there something MC was doing back in 2019 & 2020.

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          • Originally posted by Askforsnow View Post

            If I think about it, the Pandora thing might not have been just Mariah thing (sabotage) but also a Sony thing. Maybe Sony wasn’t pushing or doing something like Universal is with their Christmas artists this year.

            I mean besides Brenda Lee, Kelly Clarkson is so popular on Pandora, I’d say, she’s the Queen of Pandora Christmas because her label have her doing all sorts of ads and promos on there something MC was doing back in 2019 & 2020.
            MC did mention that she had minimal support in one of the recent interviews. It’s commendable the things that AIW has achieved so far on its own.
            She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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            • From what Mariah seems to be saying, Sony is pure trash. They are doing diddly-squat and are simply like a leach sucking all the money from her catalogue sales even though Mariah has to do everything herself to promote her music and create her own Christmas franchise, including making her own ocassional iphone 4 quality music videos (Save the Day...). No wonder she is forced to diversify her brand with McDonalds, Walkers and computer games - she needs to fund her future artistic endeavours.

              Now we know - one of the biggest selling artists and one of the most chart successful artists in the world is on her own. Although, of course, we don't know the whole story. Perhaps Sony would do more but only if Mariah submits to their demands/control....

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              • Originally posted by MeltAway View Post
                Ummm...Spotify who?

                If 3.5 million is the spread, that's HUGE! This whole time I figured Pandora was contributing to her streaming count. But no. This week it is and it appears to have widened the spread. If AIW ever gets added to the Classic Christmas playlist on Spotify it's game over. No contest. The song is a beast.
                I know!
                Pandora surely helped, but she was ahead on streaming before fixing that anyway.
                #1 on Amazon Music and Amazon Premium, #4 on Apple Music, #3 on US Youtube, #1 on Deezer and other platforms we don't know of (well, and now we also have Facebook).
                She was (and still is) doing amazing on Spotify, but she can go #1 without playlisting (on the classics one). That makes everything more legendary IMO.

                But at the same time, it's unfair.

                Look at that gap tho. Of course she also is way ahead on airplay and sales (without discount) compared with other xmas classics.

                Originally posted by MrDash View Post
                Yes but now even without that playlist she is miles ahead. But I agree that the whole thing with the Pandora situation is really fishy. Luckily, they’ve been called out and actions has been taken properly.
                Thanx to the lambs who noticed this tbh and started a campaign on Twitter.
                I wonder if it was only by Mariah's side (I mean MC Team calling out Pandora), or the platform also feeling exposed, or a mix or both things. Very fishy.

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                • Originally posted by MrDash View Post
                  MC did mention that she had minimal support in one of the recent interviews. It’s commendable the things that AIW has achieved so far on its own.
                  Yep.

                  Originally posted by Almond View Post
                  From what Mariah seems to be saying, Sony is pure trash. They are doing diddly-squat and are simply like a leach sucking all the money from her catalogue sales even though Mariah has to do everything herself to promote her music and create her own Christmas franchise, including making her own ocassional iphone 4 quality music videos (Save the Day...). No wonder she is forced to diversify her brand with McDonalds, Walkers and computer games - she needs to fund her future artistic endeavours.

                  Now we know - one of the biggest selling artists and one of the most chart successful artists in the world is on her own. Although, of course, we don't know the whole story. Perhaps Sony would do more but only if Mariah submits to their demands/control....
                  I get your point but money isn't in the music anymore, unless you're Taylor or Adele.
                  Or if you're a touring force like Céline or Madonna.
                  It's a common thing that artists now tend to diversify her brand and do collabos (some of them very weird and even cringe, and I'm including MC here too).
                  Look at Rihanna for example. She makes 10x times more Money with Savage X Fenty than with her music, and she reached billionaire status thanx to that.
                  Everything it's worse when u aren't 30 anymore, especially if u are a woman.

                  And I prefer Mariah to have more control over what she wants VS having a lil more of support - at this stage of her life and career.

                  Sure, it's harder, but she's doing good as we can see. She's created an imperium that will keep her relevant forever.

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                  • Love how unstoppable she's during these weeks.
                    She's dethroned massive hits like Mood and now EOM (with their insane airplay numbers) and TayTay had to use every single existing tactic to get a #1 for 1 week with only 1 point of difference LMAO.
                    Queen thingz.

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                    • That doll is kinda scary

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                      • It’s already Monday night at my place. When will they update the hot 100 again? Waiting eagerly for the record-breaking moment.
                        She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                        • Merry Christmas has surpassed 300,000 worldwide consumption sales for 2021. <3

                          What a monster. Imagine it were a new album... it has the potential to hit 500k again.
                          My Chart

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                          • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                            Merry Christmas has surpassed 300,000 worldwide consumption sales for 2021. <3

                            What a monster. Imagine it were a new album... it has the potential to hit 500k again.
                            Basically outselling Caution then lol #pow

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                            • Assuming nothing will happen to the chart rules in the foreseeable future, and AIW will continue to return to #1 for 2 weeks annually on average, Mariah will then be able to achieve spending 100 weeks on the top spot of Hot 100, as well as regaining the honour of having the longest running #1 song in hot 100 history, in approximately 7-8 years.
                              Last edited by MayoAndMustard; Mon December 20, 2021, 12:57.

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                              • Originally posted by MayoAndMustard View Post
                                Assuming nothing will happen to the chart rules in the foreseeable future, and AIW will continue to return to #1 for 2 weeks annually on average, Mariah will then be able to achieve spending 100 weeks on the top spot of Hot 100, as well as regaining the honour of having the longest running #1 song on hot 100 history, in approximately 7-8 years.
                                absolutely. This is the goal... to get AIWFCIY to reclaim the longest running #1 song record for Mariah. It would be awesome.
                                My Chart

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                                • Originally posted by MayoAndMustard View Post

                                  Basically outselling Caution then lol #pow
                                  Not only Caution... MIAM has approx 700k global consumption units (thx to #B) and Infinity has 400k... So it falls in line with those two.

                                  The good thing is that the album is charting in more countries every single year and also longer than the year before... so consumption sales will hit 500k and one day could exceed that.
                                  My Chart

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                                  • She looks great in the new Aspen candids:

                                    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...aka-Aspen.html

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                                    • Originally posted by WaitYourTurn View Post
                                      She looks great in the new Aspen candids:

                                      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...aka-Aspen.html
                                      Haven’t had one of those candid-paparazzi-street moments in more than a year.
                                      Great pics!
                                      She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                                      • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                                        Merry Christmas has surpassed 300,000 worldwide consumption sales for 2021. <3

                                        What a monster. Imagine it were a new album... it has the potential to hit 500k again.
                                        Amazing as always. The album has no skips.
                                        She was kind of fragile and she had a lot to grapple with but basically she kept it all inside ...

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                                        • Originally posted by MrDash View Post

                                          Haven’t had one of those candid-paparazzi-street moments in more than a year.
                                          Great pics!
                                          I thought the same - good to see her out and about!

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                                          • Originally posted by stevyy View Post
                                            Merry Christmas has surpassed 300,000 worldwide consumption sales for 2021. <3

                                            What a monster. Imagine it were a new album... it has the potential to hit 500k again.
                                            It's this high thanks to AIWFCIY, if this album was to be released today, it won't do as well because Mariah is no longer the IT artist. Even MCIIY kinda underperformed.

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                                            • Originally posted by MeltAway View Post

                                              Ummm...Spotify who?

                                              If 3.5 million is the spread, that's HUGE! This whole time I figured Pandora was contributing to her streaming count. But no. This week it is and it appears to have widened the spread. If AIW ever gets added to the Classic Christmas playlist on Spotify it's game over. No contest. The song is a beast.
                                              True, all it's lacking is the Christmas classic playlists.

                                              Although it's the #1 song globally it's loosing the battle in the States to RATC on Spotify and Wham pretty much everywhere else.

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                                              • Originally posted by MrDash View Post
                                                It’s already Monday night at my place. When will they update the hot 100 again? Waiting eagerly for the record-breaking moment.
                                                It is officially release between 6 and 7 pm uk time

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                                                • Originally posted by stevyy View Post

                                                  absolutely. This is the goal... to get AIWFCIY to reclaim the longest running #1 song record for Mariah. It would be awesome.
                                                  This and the 20th #1 would do it.

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                                                  • Originally posted by skylynx View Post

                                                    True, all it's lacking is the Christmas classic playlists.

                                                    Although it's the #1 song globally it's loosing the battle in the States to RATC on Spotify and Wham pretty much everywhere else.
                                                    same with ariana's santa tell me. it's a monster worlwide and one of the biggest xmas songs but in the US is underperforming and barely gets radio spins. but she doen't even care to promote it

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