Mariah Carey

[banksy]

I find it odd that 99,9% of all critics of Mariah... have been men. Female celebs... praise her (voice). I wonder why that it.

Did you just discover misogyny today?

[Shaka]

Dionne Warwick... it wouldn't take that seriously.
I mean, she thinks Brandy has more legendary status than MC.
And a few days ago she tweeted to Mariah (on Nov 1st I think) hoping she was having a nice day LMAO.

[Shaka]

Did you just discover misogyny today?

*Shoking*

[bm08]

Iconic.

[Shaka]

LOL.
You have no other option to love that song.

[Shaka]

The Caution photoshoot is a whole serve.

[Xmas]

Well now we know that waiting for December was the right move for Oh Santa! (Remix) as nobody cares about Mariah’s new Christmas music. Nothing can help her at this stage if she is not in Spotify playlists. At least in December it would have charted in the Holiday 100 chart. This is abysmal considering she made the effort to release a physical copy and music video at the same time

[NorthernMonkey]

Well now we know that waiting for December was the right move for Oh Santa! (Remix) as nobody cares about Mariah’s new Christmas music. Nothing can help her at this stage if she is not in Spotify playlists. At least in December it would have charted in the Holiday 100 chart. This is abysmal considering she made the effort to release a physical copy and music video at the same time

I love the song but upon first listen you know it’s not going to be a hit.

[mm2912]

Well now we know that waiting for December was the right move for Oh Santa! (Remix) as nobody cares about Mariah’s new Christmas music. Nothing can help her at this stage if she is not in Spotify playlists. At least in December it would have charted in the Holiday 100 chart. This is abysmal considering she made the effort to release a physical copy and music video at the same time

now we know we can’t expect the lead of MC16 to chart no matter if she releases cd singles or whatever. Let’s just enjoy the music and celebrate she’s still releasing. Sometimes a magic happens and something sticks when we’re not waiting for it


and I still have hopes Oh Santa remix with be a hit eventually

[NorthernMonkey]

now we know we can’t expect the lead of MC16 to chart no matter if she releases cd singles or whatever. Let’s just enjoy the music and celebrate she’s still releasing. Sometimes a magic happens and something sticks when we’re not waiting for it


and I still have hopes Oh Santa remix with be a hit eventually

I disagree with this. I’m 100% confident that FILAC was not the right song to use as a benchmark for that theory. Whilst we love the song (it’s warm, it’s a ballad, the melody is lush etc).. it’s just not hit material. It’s very layered, the ending does not appeal to the masses and it’s just not very exciting or current.. plus, it’s a Christmas song and it’s early November.

So to say “now we know that no matter what, the MC16 lead won’t be a hit” is way off. Lol. All she’d need to do is release a banger with a good hook, a clear structure a good video, good promotion and even a feature from someone current if she wanted to. The only thing stopping Mariah from having a hit is that she’s releasing songs that simply aren’t hit material.

[InFamous]

*Shoking*

What's shoking?

[InFamous]

I disagree with this. I’m 100% confident that FILAC was not the right song to use as a benchmark for that theory. Whilst we love the song (it’s warm, it’s a ballad, the melody is lush etc).. it’s just not hit material. It’s very layered, the ending does not appeal to the masses and it’s just not very exciting or current.. plus, it’s a Christmas song and it’s early November.

So to say “now we know that no matter what, the MC16 lead won’t be a hit” is way off. Lol. All she’d need to do is release a banger with a good hook, a clear structure a good video, good promotion and even a feature from someone current if she wanted to. The only thing stopping Mariah from having a hit is that she’s releasing songs that simply aren’t hit material.

That's a long list of things she has to do to snag that hit!

[delapuerta]

Christmas songs don't work as regular singles. Most of the Christmas songs released are forgotten, also in the last decade. It needs some time to get into the canon. Oh Santa is starting to have better streaming after last year, but only few songs can make it. We've seen many artists of the moment releasing their Christmas stuff and nothing happened. It's not easy and it doesn't work as regular music

[KEY9481]

Yas Kween, promote the best streaming service.

[NorthernMonkey]

That's a long list of things she has to do to snag that hit!

Just a requirement for most in the industry. There’s nothing out of the ordinary listed there.

[InFamous]

Just a requirement for most in the industry. There’s nothing out of the ordinary listed there.

Well it's a rather simplistic view. She could do all that and still not get a hit.

[Pureimagination]

Okay can I just say that Ariana Grande (who is like a monster in streaming) recently released a Xmas song with Kelly Clarkson and not even that is lighting up the charts. I'm definitely not worried about Mariah not charting ever again cause you know who will slay for 2 months annually until infinity, period

[allygdale]

FILAC is a beautiful song

To me it sounds very influenced by With You I’m Born Again

I think it would have more mainstream appeal with just straight full voice vocals and a muscular beat but it’s still enjoyable as is, the soft vocals just don’t cut through the production at all

Oh Santa will grow this year for sure

[Yerac]

Well it's a rather simplistic view. She could do all that and still not get a hit.

What Mariah really needs to push for a number 1 debut is to release a single feature your lovely voice

[bm08]

I disagree with this. I’m 100% confident that FILAC was not the right song to use as a benchmark for that theory. Whilst we love the song (it’s warm, it’s a ballad, the melody is lush etc).. it’s just not hit material. It’s very layered, the ending does not appeal to the masses and it’s just not very exciting or current.. plus, it’s a Christmas song and it’s early November.

So to say “now we know that no matter what, the MC16 lead won’t be a hit” is way off. Lol. All she’d need to do is release a banger with a good hook, a clear structure a good video, good promotion and even a feature from someone current if she wanted to. The only thing stopping Mariah from having a hit is that she’s releasing songs that simply aren’t hit material.

In sum she needs a good song with good promo. But realistically, this is true about anything. I will argue you dont need a good song for a hit these days, just good promo (to be read as good investment).

The reality is that Mariah faces structual barriers that a woman of her colour, of her genre and of her age etc face that others who simply can release a "good" song with "good" promo do not face. It will take quite a lot to break through these issues.