Mariah Carey

[Anderson]

Being late for 2 hours is not good manners..
Mariah should break the habit of being late...

[SmartIsNewSexy]

How late was she ?

[Anderson]

can you read or hear? he said himself he's sampling heartbreaker. BEST OF ME is the title of his song

Ok.. I'll check later if you're right or not.

[TheRealest]

And for a while I forgot the sorrow and the pain
and melted with you as we stood there in the rain

[mm2912]

Actually he is sampling Best of me not Heartbreaker...

can you read or hear? he said himself he's sampling heartbreaker. BEST OF ME is the title of his song

[Anderson]

Craig David is sampling heartbreaker

Actually he is sampling Best of me not Heartbreaker...

[mm2912]

.Wow this song went far. Pretty sad mariah didn’t get credited at all or we didn’t get a MV

[allygdale]

I am surprised she hasn’t retweeted Pitchfork! These reviews are even better than Daydream, MIAMI, and Caution

[SmartIsNewSexy]

I just noticed that Mariah follows Anastacia on IG. It's nice that they're friends. Also, Left Outside Alone is still that bish.

Anastasia is a lamb. We love her

[mm2912]

I wonder if there's something coming this friday. when butterfly was avaialable during the week at dolby atmos she didn't knowledge till she announced all the butterfly25 for friday. she still didn't post about TEOM being remastered. maybe mc30 is coming back or sort of

[banksy]

I just noticed that Mariah follows Anastacia on IG. It's nice that they're friends. Also, Left Outside Alone is still that bish.

[HereForMariah]

I just listened to all the #myallchallenge videos on tiktok. It’s not that many yet but there are some really really good ones. And because it’s just one part of the song, after you watched a few of them you can’t get the song out of your head.

This could help My All reach the 100k daily streams if it takes off!

[mm2912]

Craig David is sampling heartbreaker

[banksy]

KWEEN TOPPING A PITCHFORK LIST WHAT WHAT THE ACTUAL F**K AUGSKWIHSKSK EVEN THO P4K IS A LOT MORE POP FRIENDLY THAN BEFORE IF YOU LOOK AT THE REST OF THEIR LIST I WOULD HAVE NEVER EXPECTED THAT IN A BILLION YEARS HOLY F**K THIS JUST MIGHT BE THE MOST SHOCKING MOMENT OF HER CAREER!!!!!

Especially so given that they ripped Daydream to shreds in a very odd review a few years ago.

[SmartIsNewSexy]

So even though we don’t care about the “Scammys”, I figured I would still report something…

Noticed that Latto’s label just released a live solo version of “Big Energy” to Apple Music on the last week of Grammy eligibility.

Some Grammy fans speculated that Latto had submitted “Big Energy” solo version for last year’s Grammys before it became a hit, making it ineligible this year… so most people assumed Latto would submit the remix with Mariah & DJ Khaled this year. There really isn’t any other reason for her label to last minute release a live version except for them wanting to push a solo version for awards. So there goes 2 easy Grammy noms and a potential win for Mimi.

once again, we know they’re the Scammys, but it woulda been nice to see some fresh noms and/or a win. Oh well.

BEremix wouldn't have won anyway.

Im still hoping Latto wins Best new artist grammy.

[allygdale]

I’m just so happy her legacy is Fantasy, ABMB, AIWFCIY, and WBT when for so long it was frickin’ “Hero”

She won

[GlenMarley]

Off topic, but Ive seen people complain about SUD losing its "momentum", but I think the best think Mariah can do is to create hype for this project. I've seen the news going around publications that are not necessarily her audience and for the album to gain a "myth" status could really boost interest in the project beyond the 500k lambs worldwide that will already be buying it anyway.

[24fanatic]

So even though we don’t care about the “Scammys”, I figured I would still report something…

Noticed that Latto’s label just released a live solo version of “Big Energy” to Apple Music on the last week of Grammy eligibility.

Some Grammy fans speculated that Latto had submitted “Big Energy” solo version for last year’s Grammys before it became a hit, making it ineligible this year… so most people assumed Latto would submit the remix with Mariah & DJ Khaled this year. There really isn’t any other reason for her label to last minute release a live version except for them wanting to push a solo version for awards. So there goes 2 easy Grammy noms and a potential win for Mimi.

once again, we know they’re the Scammys, but it woulda been nice to see some fresh noms and/or a win. Oh well.

[WEBofDESIRE]

Fantasy is such a timeless song, it deserves the accolades. I still wish they had released that new mix from the Free Guy trailers.

[Bliss]

Very surprising coming from Pitchfork but totally deserved as they’re two of her biggest classics

MIAM was at 330k in July 2018... that's 4 years ago. It should be at 480k now.

Most of that came from track equivalent albums thanks to Beautiful, it’s not getting much from streaming so it’s probably not even at 400k

[skylynx]

These two songs on Daydream are her most evergreen from the 90s. Not weighed down by dated producction. They are just so fun and likelable.

This is the sort of music people want from Mariah. Not sure niche gospel, Portrait-obscure style song. She's written enough of these. give us fun pop bops and bangers.

https://pitchfork.com/features/lists...-of-the-1990s/

Pitchfork's best songs of the 1990s:

[skylynx]

Just look at our girl mixing it with these men and rock bands.

Mariah crosses 70million certified albums.

Outright highest certified female artist in USA history!

[skylynx]

7x Platinum for TEOM was long overdue though was hoping for 8x platinum.

Looks like the sales collapsed quite a bit after 2006. The should've pushed "So Lonely" as the single and not Say Somethin to boot the Deluxe sales.

wow congrats Memoirs! 1 more album going platinum on her catalog

[skylynx]

Hello everyone,

I'm new here. I've been reading this thread for a long time and felt now was a good time to contribute!

Up until the pandemic, I was working in the office of a major European publicist who often worked with Mariah alongside many others (George Michael was another RIP)

I started early 2000's working as an intern and worked my way up. Along the way, I had lots of exposure to MC and her camp and I have always been a fan.

I wanted to contribute regarding the discussions about her voice and it's current condition. From what I've seen, its part of a bigger picture re: MC. I'll try and make this as concise as possible.

My first experience with MC was during her summer UK 2001 promo tour for Glitter. I was assisting the senior PR at a taping of a show for a now defunct MTV channel in the UK, MTV Base and MC was doing an hour long special with them and Trevor Nelson for the album. We taped early afternoon and MC requested champagne. I was dispatched to go and find a couple of chilled bottles of Cristal (not easy to find even a single one chilled but I digress) that MC could have to 'loosen' her up during the interview. The glasses were kept just out of shot by their seats and not to be filmed. It did loosen her up and it was a great interview. This became standard procedure when MC was in the UK doing press with us. Never in the morning but as soon as the afternoon came, a bottle of wine, mostly white, or champagne would be on hand and once emptied would be restocked with another in a nearby ice bucket. It was just what it was. MC never appeared drunk and it always seemed to chill her out and led to her having a better time during press. She mentioned her voice often regarding smoke she could detect in a nearby room or the temperature of the air con etc and seemed very concious of it and the affects on her voice. She would often move interviews to her hotel room or a smaller room because it was better for her voice and we always went out of our way to make sure she was comfortable on this front with all she needed. That time, MC didn't do any promotional performances. In the UK back then, most were mimed to track anyway as it was easier to edit and you could get more performances out of an artist without rehearsal or soundcheck requirements. But she mentioned a few times that she was glad she didn't have to sing anytime soon because even her speaking voice was 'tired'.

MC came back later that year and again in 2002 and 2003 for promotional appearances, none of which were live vocals and it was business as usual re: ensuring whatever beverage she needed was there and that she was happy and comfortable. We attended two of her live dates on the Charmbracelet tour (this was different as we would just see the show and then see her afterwards, we wouldn't be there before)
I remember she had sounded incredible in Birmingham and got great reviews for London and she was really happy. There was a Halloween party the night before her final UK date in Manchester and she went out and partied with friends and dressed up. Normally she would never usually do this, she would always be on vocal rest- but she wanted to. As a result, she cut some songs from the Manchester set list and I remember the general feeling was that she was a bit annoyed at herself but managed to get it back together as she went onto Europe. But this was the beginning of a relaxing towards what I heard from colleagues were always previously golden rules regarding her and her voice.

The first time I saw MC drink before a show was Live 8. The mood was really tense in the camp that day as she was worried about her voice on such a large scale event. She skipped the rehearsal to sleep and woke up, went into makeup, left the hotel and got to her trailer. I remember her drinking a little wine through a straw before she went on to loosen her up and it did. She really went out like a performer and let the vocals be whatever they were going to be. But this was the beginning of a pattern that from what I gather exists up until this day. MC is very nervous about live performance events that she can't control. Her US team would frequently only green light performances that could be dubbed or touched up after. Obviously an event like a Good Morning America is a must do promotional wise and MC would agree to it and her schedule would be amended as such that she had a day off before to rest her voice etc.

I remember a dinner MC had with George Michael and the lady I worked for. I wasn't there but I heard about it afterwards. GM had invited a friend of his who I think worked with him vocally and worked in opera too. A coach of some sort. Naturally there was wine during dinner and I think this friend of George's made a comment to MC about the drink not being good for her voice and MC didn't take it well and there was a bit of tension at the table. This I think encapsulates the issue at hand. MC's voice was always her USP. It is what made her who she is. She knows it better than anyone and often said it had a mind of it's own- like some days it just didn't want to co-operate. That combined with MC wanting to make up time she lost in her younger years by being more social and partying/drinking, it led to a more relaxed approach. Factoring in drinking, which is apparently like pouring acid on your cords for your voice and it makes sense why MC is where she is at today. I think she always knows she can pull it back and go back to what works- she abstains from alcohol for a bit, gets the vocal rest she needs and is reassured that her voice largely bounces back- look at her Beacon performances for example after Rockefeller or how she wanted to prove she still had it on the Charmbracelet tour. That fighter in MC comes back out and decides to make the necessary changes. But it doesn't last.

She is surrounded by teams of people she curates, people that faciliate what she wants. Liron who works for her today, started by working a fan site called MariahDaily and was then hired by MC. These people won't tell MC that the drink isn't working or advise better ways. They are all on the payroll and whilst a lot of them I've met have been lovely, working for MC is like an alternate reality and she calls the shots. So if she wants a drink to loosen up before a show, she has it. No one questions her. And she has nothing to prove. But it has led to the devaluation of the overall brand of MC with these high profile appearances that aren't in line with her legacy as one of the greatest vocalists of all time. It's a vicious cycle.

Welcome to UKMIX

[stevyy]

New indie Kween tbh.

watch SUD be named the album of the decade.