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  • I quite like the Shawni Remix of A no no. She was better than Stefflon Don.
    For the Nostalgia if nothing else

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    • Whats happening on Mariah world
      Caution and Giving Me Life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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      • Originally posted by Hejira View Post
        I don't get the fuss about this song at all. I too think her vocals aren't on point but even if they were, they're DRENCHED in an idiotic amount of reverb as if she was singing in an empty hall. I suppose that was the effect/vibe they were going for but for me it falls absolutely flat.
        The entire vibe of the song is breezy and feel good to me. I think it works. It also came at a time when we were getting a lot of breakup theme songs from her so it was refreshing in that way too
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        • Originally posted by shanghaichica View Post
          I quite like the Shawni Remix of A no no. She was better than Stefflon Don.
          I totally agree
          Love you like a love song!

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          • This is interesting as it may detail the approach Sony Legacy and Mariah are taking to her catalog:

            Catalog Conundrum: Labels Eyeing Ways to Market Older Music as Streaming and Hot Singles Dominate

            Streaming services haven't only revived the music industry — they've also reshaped it, changing the focus of A&R and marketing and incentivizing executives to prioritize hip-hop over rock and hot singles over big albums. More than ever, major labels and large indies are chasing — and paying big money to sign — artists who can deliver hits fast.

            At the same time, those hits — indeed, all newly released songs — account for a smaller percentage of overall music sales, including streaming, than ever before.

            In 2004, when album sales still drove the U.S. recorded music industry, current music — meaning releases less than 18 months old, plus older albums that remained in the top half of the Billboard 200 or still received significant radio airplay — accounted for 64.2% of that business. Catalog — music released more than 18 months ago, with the exceptions noted above — made up the remaining 35.8% of sales.

            In the past decade and a half, however, those numbers have reversed: Current music accounts for 35.7% of album consumption units in 2019, while catalog makes up the remaining 64.3%, as of the week ending Oct. 10.

            This might seem counterintuitive: Aren't hit songs taking off, and making money, faster than ever? They are, by some measures, although much of the revenue they bring in will come in the future. But as the streaming-*driven business monetizes music according to consumption, rather than sales, the sheer volume of catalog music available weighs more in comparison. While most physical stores devoted more shelf space to new releases, the vast majority of the music available on streaming services is older.

            One theory is that, previously, data used to show what consumers were buying -- and that was mainly new music. The music industry's new economic model still captures what's left of sales, but the industry can now also measure and monetize what music fans are listening to in their home and cars -- and that is older catalog music.

            So why are labels so focused on breaking the next big hit?

            Largely because the catalog that brings in the most revenue has changed almost as much as its importance in the business. In 2018, 73% of all streams were generated by music released from 2010 to 2018, while a further 15% came from music released from 2000 to 2009 — meaning that 88% of all streaming music consumption came from music released this century. In terms of track sales, the disparity is almost as dramatic: 83% of sales come from music released since 2000, compared with music from the 1950s, '60s, '70s, '80s or '90s. In the CD era, the catalog business was more focused on older music from the '60s and '70s — classic rock standbys like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, the Eagles and AC/DC.

            For catalog labels like Warner's Rhino Records, Sony's Legacy Recordings and Universal's Universal Music Enterprises, monetizing catalog has often involved releasing and marketing box sets, remastered special editions and anniversary packages. As sales continue to crater, however, labels are having a harder time driving interest in older music. This year, music released before 1990 accounts for just 4.29% of all streams, according to Nielsen Music.

            The ways labels market catalog and current hits are diverging. Frontline labels are pouring millions into marketing singles from developing acts in the hopes of enticing consumers to become fans — and explore more of their music in order to generate more revenue. On the catalog side, however, "getting movement on one track doesn't do shit," according to a major-label executive. "Everybody in catalog is trying to figure out how to move the overall needle."

            Catalog promoters don't just rely on oldies radio and big synchs, but also social media and playlist marketing. One trick is to drive traffic to playlists like Spotify's This Is series or Apple Music's Essentials, says Jay Gilbert, a principal in the artist- and label-*services firm Label Logic. Another strategy: Use existing visuals from an artist's career to create music videos for older hits that never had them, as Led Zeppelin did a few years ago using old concert footage set to studio mixes of songs like "Whole Lotta Love" and "Rock & Roll" or The Rolling Stones did in 2018 with a new lyric video for "Sympathy for the Devil."

            "Our job is to encourage the fans to go deeper than two or three tracks into an artist's catalog," says a catalog executive at a major label. "There are tons of stimuli that could bring the consumer to our artists, whether that be songs used in movie trailers, TV shows or commercials. Now, people can Shazam a song, find it and listen to it immediately."

            For any act, from any decade, reaching an audience these days seems to require just that kind of immediacy. In general, the catalog executive says, "it's important to post something new to the artist page on a service every week that will draw eyeballs."
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            • Looks like Target is causing some street date violations but this gives an example of the packaging:

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              • Originally posted by allygdale View Post
                Her vocals were off the chain in Dubai! Bish hardly had any vocal loops and her tone was on point #CONFIDENCE, she seemed to utilize a lot of the really full mid voice like she did on the CB tour and Xmas shows
                OMG I’m so glad someone else noticed this as well. I was watching the ANN video yesterday and thinking to myself: is she really using that resonant, womanly CB tour/2014 Beacon mid range or what? I couldn’t believe my ears and for a second I thought it was my imagination just because I adore and yearn for that register of hers so much.
                DEBBIE GIBSON 2020

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                • Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                  Looks like Target is causing some street date violations but this gives an example of the packaging:

                  omg it is so pretty!!!
                  MARIAH

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                  • Originally posted by bm08 View Post
                    Looks like Target is causing some street date violations but this gives an example of the packaging:

                    Wow!
                    It's shiny!

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                    • We really need to celebrate a little more how on point she was last night.

                      That Make it Happen performance was her best in years!

                      Let’s hope she has retired the corsets for good because she was way freer on stage and it obviously messes with her performances

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                      • I enjoyed the Dubai concert, the parts that i've watched so far. everytime she takes a lil' time off, I miss her..
                        A No No was great!
                        I liked all the lil' note changes in Emotions.
                        Hero was lovely.. her tone on that song is always special.
                        #mariahcarey #lambforlife

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                        • Damn, her tone during the Emotions performance.
                          YES MARIAH!
                          Last edited by SawyerHewitt; Tue October 22, 2019, 13:36.
                          Just a DEVIANT, PERTURBED, DERANGED, MACABRE, MANIAC, LUNATIC, IRRATIONAL PSYCHO-TO-BE.

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                          • Make it Happen needs to be performed at Xmas shows especially in MSG,
                            last night was so good I wanna hear it again, wow Mariah, she is the best
                            damn!!
                            that "On Solid Ground "!!!??,whf???

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                            • in other news, AIWFCIY just dethrone Obsessed as Mariahs daily most streaming song on Spotify

                              c'mon Mariah season, #CantWait

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                              • in other news, AIWFCIY just dethrone Obsessed as Mariahs daily most streaming song on Spotify

                                c'mon Mariah season, #CantWait

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                                • Originally posted by himc15 View Post
                                  in other news, AIWFCIY just dethrone Obsessed as Mariahs daily most streaming song on Spotify

                                  c'mon Mariah season, #CantWait
                                  I am a bit concerned about her xmas shows, they are not really selling so good.

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                                  • Originally posted by himc15 View Post
                                    Make it Happen needs to be performed at Xmas shows especially in MSG,
                                    last night was so good I wanna hear it again, wow Mariah, she is the best
                                    damn!!
                                    that "On Solid Ground "!!!??,whf???
                                    I wonder which non-christmas songs she's going to perform. Last xmas show I went to she did Emotions, WBT, and Hero.
                                    MARIAH

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                                    • Originally posted by heartlocked View Post
                                      I wonder which non-christmas songs she's going to perform. Last xmas show I went to she did Emotions, WBT, and Hero.
                                      well, those are the ones she does like every Xmas shows since 2014 so maybe this year will be different,
                                      it's the 25th anniversary for Merry Xmas, it should be special

                                      I would love Make It Happen and FLAB or even AYNAF

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                                      • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                                        I am a bit concerned about her xmas shows, they are not really selling so good.

                                        why?? didn't someone here said they are at least 65% sold our?? and it's not even November yet, don't worry she always does well on Xmas,Come November the promo will start and till December 1st I'm sure its gonna be 95+% sold out to all the shows,

                                        wait, how about the Vegas shows guys,? how are they doing??

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                                        • Originally posted by himc15 View Post
                                          why?? didn't someone here said they are at least 65% sold our?? and it's not even November yet, don't worry she always does well on Xmas,Come November the promo will start and till December 1st I'm sure its gonna be 95+% sold out to all the shows,

                                          wait, how about the Vegas shows guys,? how are they doing??
                                          Butterfly returns is currently 39 percent sold, Christmas shows still have 16500 tickets available. She will probably pick up though, as you said it is early.

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                                          • ^^ yap, that's what I think, + most people buys them as the holidays approaching, and I think Mariah/her team will do setting for the pro,

                                            and remember those people with Mariah on different social media posing and getting excited about what they did with Mariah and that we will be surprised.

                                            I cant wait tbh

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                                            • Also for the Vegas shows, they usually sell out on the night and not far in advance, especially for The Butterfly Returns which doesn't start until next February

                                              They also had to add another date at the MGM due to high demand, I'm sure by the night of the Christmas shows she will have sold 85-100% of tickets to each date!

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                                              • Originally posted by InFamous View Post
                                                I am a bit concerned about her xmas shows, they are not really selling so good.
                                                I actually think they’re selling pretty well, considering she hasn’t done any promo yet! Remember that she still had all of those interviews/ announcements/ press with those influencers that haven’t been released. I’m sure come November, when everything starts rolling out, she’ll sell out most of the shows!
                                                How bout you...

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                                                • The shows are selling well, including Vegas ones

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                                                  • Mariah Carey the best singer of all time
                                                    My Queen! My Goddess! My Idol!
                                                    Forever and always!

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