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  • Originally posted by Westen
    Now look at my other fave Tove Lo, she released song called Disco Tits, payed for amazing video, she released visuals for every single song from her last album (Lady Wood), she payed for it without label's support (and they are barely even getting views outside her fans), she's touring as opening act and writing for others because she has to bring money (since she's working for Max Martin, probably as a ghostwriter too), but in return she gets to release music that she wants to without pressure of making it big. Blue Lips (Lady Wood Phase II) didn't even have physical release, but she released 2nd part of the album (Lady Wood), like she wanted to. Her music is not even being sent to radios, she's writing it all by herself and producing it with the help of her friends. It's raw and passionate.
    Its an unfair comparison. Tove Lo won't probably have that same drive, energy and passion after 36 years of career. You're comparing a new artist that has that hunger for success, for making it and achieving her dreams with an artist who's 36 years after her debut.

    Madonna also had that same drive Tove Lo is having when she was starting, she would do anything and in fact most artists start that way, they don't give 100% but 200% when they're in their first years and then after they achieve their dreams or become millionaires their drive and passion gradually start to fade, I can guarantee you that Tove Lo won't be that way forever.

    If anything we couldn't be more thankful for Madonna, that high 200% giving drive and hunger that new artists have Madonna had it for the first 10 albums of her career in a span of 23 years. Right now she is just lazy because it wasn't simply going to last forever.
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    • Originally posted by MrLeonix
      Originally posted by Westen
      Now look at my other fave Tove Lo, she released song called Disco Tits, payed for amazing video, she released visuals for every single song from her last album (Lady Wood), she payed for it without label's support (and they are barely even getting views outside her fans), she's touring as opening act and writing for others because she has to bring money (since she's working for Max Martin, probably as a ghostwriter too), but in return she gets to release music that she wants to without pressure of making it big. Blue Lips (Lady Wood Phase II) didn't even have physical release, but she released 2nd part of the album (Lady Wood), like she wanted to. Her music is not even being sent to radios, she's writing it all by herself and producing it with the help of her friends. It's raw and passionate.
      Its an unfair comparison. Tove Lo won't probably have that same drive, energy and passion after 36 years of career. You're comparing a new artist that has that hunger for success, for making it and achieving her dreams with an artist who's 36 years after her debut.

      Madonna also had that same drive Tove Lo is having when she was starting, she would do anything and in fact most artists start that way, they don't give 100% but 200% when they're in their first years and then after they achieve her dreams or become millionaires their drive and passion gradually start to fade, I can guarantee you that Tove Lo won't be that way forever.

      If anything we couldn't be more thankful for Madonna, that high 200% giving drive and hunger that new artists have Madonna had it for the first 10 albums of her career in a span of 23 years. Right now she is just lazy because it wasn't simply going to last forever.
      I know, i understand that, but i always thought she was smarter than this.

      It all went down when she left Warner and signed that deal with Live nation.

      I can't name one good thing that she did in the last 10 years. She even managed to ruin SuperBowl with terrible guests and disgusting new song.

      Weather we liked HC era or not she was still one of the biggest artists out there, 10 years ago she was basically riding high and now she managed to ruin everything that she worked on up until that point. Her image and artistry is ruined to the point of no return, no one sees her today as an artist. She's nothing but a joke, and she doesn't even realize that, she's blaming ageism for that.

      Look at Mariah for example, she realized where she was, fired whole team, got her new team, got new high profile gigs, she brought class to her style, diva antics are fading etc. She's rebuilding her image.

      What's Madonna doing? Spamming IG with MDNA skin.

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      • Originally posted by Westen
        I know, i understand that, but i always thought she was smarter than this.

        It all went down when she left Warner and signed that deal with Live nation.

        I can't name one good thing that she did in the last 10 years. She even managed to ruin SuperBowl with terrible guests and disgusting new song.

        Weather we liked HC era or not she was still one of the biggest artists out there, 10 years ago she was basically riding high and now she managed to ruin everything that she worked on up until that point. Her image and artistry is ruined to the point of no return, no one sees her today as an artist. She's nothing but a joke, and she doesn't even realize that, she's blaming ageism for that.

        Look at Mariah for example, she realized where she was, fired whole team, got her new team, got new high profile gigs, she brought class to her style, diva antics are fading etc. She's rebuilding her image.

        What's Madonna doing? Spamming IG with MDNA skin.
        I understand, as sad as it may sound I don't even know if she did something "amazing" in the last 10 years, probably the SuperBowl show for me, but thats it.

        However I don't think she reached Mariah's low levels either, or at least she hasn't reached such levels yet. Mariah literally became a joke doing reality TV and let her fiasco get her on stage in the many disastrous performances she pulled in the last years. Madonna is lazy, repetitive, tiring and non-creative these days but she kept it professional every time she stepped on a stage always putting on good shows by not bringing her lazyness to the stage at least.

        I feel like Madonna and her manager don't know how to market her career these days (and I don't mean the charts) but her public persona / image. She needs Celine Dion's public image's team and Cher's plastic surgeon's number because her face is also starting to give me Priscilla Presley teas.
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        • Looking at her Instagram, she must be very desperate these days..
          Is it really love if it hurts? Is it really pain if it’s inside?

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          • Originally posted by MrLeonix
            Originally posted by Westen
            I know, i understand that, but i always thought she was smarter than this.

            It all went down when she left Warner and signed that deal with Live nation.

            I can't name one good thing that she did in the last 10 years. She even managed to ruin SuperBowl with terrible guests and disgusting new song.

            Weather we liked HC era or not she was still one of the biggest artists out there, 10 years ago she was basically riding high and now she managed to ruin everything that she worked on up until that point. Her image and artistry is ruined to the point of no return, no one sees her today as an artist. She's nothing but a joke, and she doesn't even realize that, she's blaming ageism for that.

            Look at Mariah for example, she realized where she was, fired whole team, got her new team, got new high profile gigs, she brought class to her style, diva antics are fading etc. She's rebuilding her image.

            What's Madonna doing? Spamming IG with MDNA skin.
            I understand, as sad as it may sound I don't even know if she did something "amazing" in the last 10 years, probably the SuperBowl show for me, but thats it.

            However I don't think she reached Mariah's low levels either, or at least she hasn't reached such levels yet. Mariah literally became a joke doing reality TV and let her fiasco get her on stage in the many disastrous performances she pulled in the last years. Madonna is lazy, repetitive, tiring and non-creative these days but she kept it professional every time she stepped on a stage always putting on good shows by not bringing her lazyness to the stage at least.

            I feel like Madonna and her manager don't know how to market her career these days (and I don't mean the charts) but her public persona / image. She needs Celine Dion's public image's team and Cher's plastic surgeon's number because her face is also starting to give me Priscilla Presley teas.

            Mariah def reached lower point, but she realized that, and she started cleaning mess that she made. Last few months have been the best months for Mariah probably since mid 00s, everything is working for her now, from great looks to her team hyping her up and praising her in press, giving her good word of mouth. Madonna never does that, she never uses her accomplishments in her advance, instead of reminding people why is she the biggest she reminds them that she is desperate hasbeen with her antics.
            Madonna is only sinking lower and lower and i don't see her recovering, she only has die hard stans now, you know, those loudest ones who would call her burp the best song in years!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!
            Everything is mess, from her online persona, to press, her catalog being forgotten and not pushed at all on Spotify and youtube, her image, from once upon a time fashion queen to cheap ugly looks.

            Oh god i just googled that face and it's actually scary how much Madonna looks like her, i am seriously afraid of her next era, she not only gained a lot of fat since RHT ended but her face got even worse. She really has terrible genes and she's aging very bad.

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            • Originally posted by Westen
              Everything is mess, from her online persona, to press, her catalog being forgotten and not pushed at all on Spotify and youtube, her image, from once upon a time fashion queen to cheap ugly looks.
              She needs a new team, I understand why she is lazy after all of these years, but that doesn't justify the horrible way her catalog, image, and streaming are treated. They only care about Touring.

              Originally posted by Westen
              Oh god i just googled that face and it's actually scary how much Madonna looks like her, i am seriously afraid of her next era, she not only gained a lot of fat since RHT ended but her face got even worse. She really has terrible genes and she's aging very bad.
              Lets not exaggerate either, Madonna does have great genes, she was looking like this at freaking 47:

              [youtube:2ah8xlo0]rdccTOcX7o4[/youtube:2ah8xlo0]

              She was definately ageing great and on the right track ..... What simply happened recently is that she stopped caring of herself in the last few years and of course all that plastic surgery she's put in her face is not helping either. I'm not against plastic surgery but I think she's using a really bad doctor.
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              • It's a shame this thread is no lomger a place to relax and have nice conversations .
                So much negativity. Again,a shame. Really sad,honestly.

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                • Originally posted by BodyShop
                  It's a shame this thread is no lomger a place to relax and have nice conversations .
                  So much negativity. Again,a shame. Really sad,honestly.
                  Exactly.... That's why I don't come here more often. There's opinions and then there's this...

                  BTW
                  Give me a record and I’ll break it...

                  Channel 5 in Italy broadcasted Madonna’s Rebel Heart Tour for New Year’s Eve. The broadcast reached 1,072,000 viewers, becoming the most-watched-non-sportive event in the network (the World Cup reached the 1,500,000).
                  "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                  • Madonna`s doing whatever the fck she wants, like she always does and seems very happy.
                    I'm glad that she's happy because she has made me happy a lot of times over 5he last 30 years.
                    "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                    • Re: Madonna

                      I really hope she still has some passion for music left in her, last three eras were very disappointing in terms of albums. I need another great album like Music.
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                      • You guys are being way to harsh. Give the woman a break. I swear her fans are her harshest critics. I know people are entitled to their opinions, but it's just plain mean to attack her looks. IMO she's released some great music over the past decade. She gave us so much with Rebel Heart. MDNA isn't at the top of my list, but I do enjoy it.

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                        • Originally posted by jio
                          Hmm, she has a visual album... there are videos from every song off "Evita".
                          So true!!!
                          What a trendsetter she is
                          "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                          • Originally posted by madgikman
                            You guys are being way to harsh. Give the woman a break. I swear her fans are her harshest critics. I know people are entitled to their opinions, but it's just plain mean to attack her looks. IMO she's released some great music over the past decade. She gave us so much with Rebel Heart. MDNA isn't at the top of my list, but I do enjoy it.
                            Even Hard Candy and MDNA have true gems in them! And I'm talking about what really matters, the music!
                            "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                            • Originally posted by AlphaMale
                              Originally posted by madgikman
                              You guys are being way to harsh. Give the woman a break. I swear her fans are her harshest critics. I know people are entitled to their opinions, but it's just plain mean to attack her looks. IMO she's released some great music over the past decade. She gave us so much with Rebel Heart. MDNA isn't at the top of my list, but I do enjoy it.
                              Even Hard Candy and MDNA have true gems in them! And I'm talking about what really matters, the music!
                              Oh yes Hard Candy is a solid album. It's funny, I think I listen to HC,MDNA & RH more than the earlier material.

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                              • I usually hear random tracks from every album, but wake up everyday to the sound of Live To Tell.
                                "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                                • Re: Madonna

                                  She released some of my favorite tracks in the last ten years. As well as some of her best videos.
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                                  • Originally posted by RayRay
                                    She released some of my favorite tracks in the last ten years. As well as some of her best videos.
                                    This goes directly to unpopular opinions
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                                    • Originally posted by RayRay
                                      She released some of my favorite tracks in the last ten years. As well as some of her best videos.
                                      Do tell. What songs? What videos?
                                      To me her best video from the last 10 years is BIM.
                                      "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                                      • And her last great video before BIM is Sorry.
                                        "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                                        • And her last great single was 4 minutes.
                                          Album tracks from the last 10 years, we have plenty of greatness.
                                          "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                                          • My favorite Madonna tracks from the last ten years:
                                            Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
                                            Girl Gone Wild
                                            Turn Up The Radio
                                            Super Star
                                            Love Spent
                                            Masterpiece
                                            Living For Love
                                            Messiah
                                            Rebel Heart
                                            Beautiful Scars
                                            Borrowed Time


                                            My favorite Madonna videos from the last ten years:
                                            Girl Gone Wild
                                            Living For Love
                                            Ghosttown
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                                            • Originally posted by RayRay
                                              Super Star
                                              This is a joke, right?

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                                              • My favorite Madonna tracks from the last 10 years are:

                                                1. Miles away
                                                2. Rebel heart
                                                3. Love spent
                                                4. Joan of arc
                                                5. Ghosttown
                                                6. Give it 2 me
                                                7. Masterpiece
                                                8. Heartbeat
                                                9. The beat goes on
                                                10. Devil pray
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                                                Approved Popstars: Michael Jackson . Madonna . Britney Spears . Beyoncé . Rihanna

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                                                • Originally posted by Westen
                                                  Originally posted by RayRay
                                                  Super Star
                                                  This is a joke, right?
                                                  I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I love that song.
                                                  It's everything I loved Madonna for back in the 80's.
                                                  It could easily fit on one of her first two albums.
                                                  It's catchy and has very fun lyrics.
                                                  I love it!
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                                                  • To all the people moaning here, give her a break please. She's had an amazing career. In fact, she's had the most amazing, successful and inspiring career a female entertainer has ever had or will ever have. She was a super creative force and an over achievever for more than twenty years. Noone achieved as much as she did for so long. She's going to turn 60 in a few months. 60! Whether you like it or not, her career is behind her. She is fully entitled to be lazy, enjoy life and her children 24/7 , party all the time, eat all the food in the world, look ridiculous on instagram and do whatever makes her happy. I will always love her for all the happiness, excitement and inspiration she brought to my life over the last 30 years. She opened me to the world in so many ways in my childhood that I will always be forever thankful for that.

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