Madonna

[CandyShop]

I said even if the volume is off, I cant blast it at work. And if I want to do things that help her stats, why do you care? How is that childish? No different from back in the day when people bought multiple copies of singles, etc. I play the Vogue video every day because I want it to hit 100 million so that she has a video from the past 4 decades with 100 million views. If you don't like it, don't pay attention to my posts.

I m so with u here. Just to let u know 😀

[Westen]

Ungrateful for what? Portugal is one of Europe's most visited countries with history and culture so rich and influential that even if they had 1000 biggest stars in the world living there and promoting them, it wouldn't change anything. They don't need them. Madonna knows that, so I doubt it's true.

Ofc it's not true. In order for those texts to leak they would've come from her or her agent, so they are obviously fake.
But Madonna's terrible PR team is once again doing nothing to stop BS like this.

[CandyShop]

Reading last few pages, let me thanks Beredy, who gave me such a complete Spotify instructions.

I actually downloaded and get the free version to try but it’s a mess ..... I can’t even skip from a song to another..... but I guess that happened as u said with the app on the mobile version........

[CandyShop]

So? It's charting nowhere. BIM has almost 300m views, is that a hit in your book?


Madonna's lead single will at least chart in most markets with or without him.

U definitely have a point here

[beredy]

Reading last few pages, let me thanks Beredy, who gave me such a complete Spotify instructions.

I actually downloaded and get the free version to try but it’s a mess ..... I can’t even skip from a song to another..... but I guess that happened as u said with the app on the mobile version........

Yes, the free mobile version is indeed very limited. Try it out on desktop. You will basically have the full version (with an ad here or there), but you will get a much better idea how it works and if you'll like it.

[Artoo]

[MENTION=41490]CandyShop[/MENTION] do a google and see if you can find an offer for discount premium. There’s usually something floating around.

[Bad_Bobby2009]

When i play Madonna, I'm listening to mostly demos, lives and other rarities, which totally can't be found on Spotify. It's not my thing.

https://www.last.fm/user/Bad_Bad_Bob...t=LAST_30_DAYS

[Angeman]

When i play Madonna, I'm listening to mostly demos, lives and other rarities, which totally can't be found on Spotify. It's not my thing.

https://www.last.fm/user/Bad_Bad_Bob...t=LAST_30_DAYS

You can add your own songs to Spotify. I have all her maxi singles uploaded to Spotify. I also have Blond Ambition Tour audio as well.

[Westen]

It's shocking to see how much hate she's getting in Portugal media right now, over stupid lie, and yet her pr or her are not saying anything, once again showing how idiotic both her and her team are. Other artists would never let lies like these even go public.

[beredy]

U definitely have a point here

Actually he doesn't. So what that BIM didn't chart much and it's nowhere to be seen these days?!?! Do we scrub these views and pretend they're not there? Of course not. For some reason BIM managed to get a nice YT showing. Which can hardly be said about L4L and Ghosttown. And part of the reason BIM managed to secure some interest at first was all the cameo roles (Beyonce, Katy Perry, Kanye, Diplo, Nicki...). Shall we pretend that didn't help? And Maluma's HP will probably be closer to 1 billion views after 4 years of availability than BIM being close to 300 million after the same time frame.

If Maluma is on the first single, then he will definitely give the video more visibility on streaming and give it a push and some interest. She could have a video with 300 million views in under 6 months (unless the song alienates both Maluma's and Madonna's audience). It's not about having a video with 300 million views in 4 years. It's about having a video that generates enough interest to get some big number first/second week that could help it chart or keep it in charts.

[AlphaMale]

It's shocking to see how much hate she's getting in Portugal media right now, over stupid lie, and yet her pr or her are not saying anything, once again showing how idiotic both her and her team are. Other artists would never let lies like these even go public.

No one cares about that gossip. Tomorrow something new happens and people move on. It would be worse if her pr team acknowledged the gossip.

[AlphaMale]

Actually he doesn't. So what that BIM didn't chart much and it's nowhere to be seen these days?!?! Do we scrub these views and pretend they're not there? Of course not. For some reason BIM managed to get a nice YT showing. Which can hardly be said about L4L and Ghosttown. And part of the reason BIM managed to secure some interest at first was all the cameo roles (Beyonce, Katy Perry, Kanye, Diplo, Nicki...). Shall we pretend that didn't help? And Maluma's HP will probably be closer to 1 billion views after 4 years of availability than BIM being close to 300 million after the same time frame.

If Maluma is on the first single, then he will definitely give the video more visibility on streaming and give it a push and some interest. She could have a video with 300 million views in under 6 months (unless the song alienates both Maluma's and Madonna's audience). It's not about having a video with 300 million views in 4 years. It's about having a video that generates enough interest to get some big number first/second week that could help it chart or keep it in charts.

Also isn't him in the top 10 Spotify WW?

[Westen]

No one cares about that gossip. Tomorrow something new happens and people move on. It would be worse if her pr team acknowledged the gossip.

I've seen fan from Portugal saying that she is trashed and everyone turned on her.

[Westen]

Actually he doesn't. So what that BIM didn't chart much and it's nowhere to be seen these days?!?! Do we scrub these views and pretend they're not there? Of course not. For some reason BIM managed to get a nice YT showing. Which can hardly be said about L4L and Ghosttown. And part of the reason BIM managed to secure some interest at first was all the cameo roles (Beyonce, Katy Perry, Kanye, Diplo, Nicki...). Shall we pretend that didn't help? And Maluma's HP will probably be closer to 1 billion views after 4 years of availability than BIM being close to 300 million after the same time frame.

If Maluma is on the first single, then he will definitely give the video more visibility on streaming and give it a push and some interest. She could have a video with 300 million views in under 6 months (unless the song alienates both Maluma's and Madonna's audience). It's not about having a video with 300 million views in 4 years. It's about having a video that generates enough interest to get some big number first/second week that could help it chart or keep it in charts.

Oh please shut the f up with those cameos. Cameos were popular for first few days, not during whole summer when she was getting +1m views per day. It was also her 2nd most streamed song on Spotify in 2015, were they streaming audio to hear cameos too?

You're obviously not going to give credit where credit is due because you are pressed hater of RH.

There is no replay value to few seconds cameos, people were coming back to it because it was bop. For same reasons it was most popular among 6 released songs, and for same reasons it is most streamed song from the album.

[AlphaMale]

The truth is that youguer generation loved the song.

[AlphaMale]

I've seen fan from Portugal saying that she is trashed and everyone turned on her.

Belive me, no one cares. It's a big thing that she's living here and that her son is playing on the biggest team here, but there are not papazzi following her or fans. We're a very laid back people.

[Westen]

The truth is that youguer generation loved the song.

Exactly. It might be one of her most popular songs among younger generation these days. But some people are too pressed to admit that...

[Westen]

Belive me, no one cares. It's a big thing that she's living here and that her son is playing on the biggest team here, but there are not papazzi following her or fans. We're a very laid back people.

I don't know, this other fan is saying that backlash is really big.

[BodyShop]

[MENTION=35926]Westen[/MENTION] ,Madonna will always be bashed.
I'm not patronising you,but you should let it go.
I say this as a looooong time fan and I think others will (mostly) agree with me.
The amount of shit she's endured is insane.
The other day,I posted about the Erotica days as I was watching again loads of TV reports from those days.
That era fascinates me . Not only because of the music ,videos,visuals and performances that I love.
But also because it's amazing to see how it brought the worst in people.
She was literally chewed up and spit out.
Believe me ,someone who survived *that* ,with intact mental sanity (and even managed to took a turn with her career) ,can survive basically anything.
This Portugal thing is no big deal at all . Like [MENTION=34987]AlphaMale[/MENTION] said, in 2 days, no one will remember that.

[spiritboy]

She's leaving Portugal soon, i doubt she cares about that controversy. Sometimes addressing a rumor makes it worse.

As for Erotica era, it was the biggest backlash any female pop star suffered. Janet's SB controversy was nothing compared to this because it was centered in US and outside US nobody cared much about SB. But with Erotica, Madonna was demonized all around the world. And she survived that storm, that's why she'll always be the most relevant female Pop star ever and that's why fans of other divas HATE her with a passion.

[spiritboy]

Guys, i know Madonna isn't a nostalgic woman but can it be that she's referring to herself in Indian Summer? It means very beautiful weather before winter, maybe it's a reference to her age and musical career. Maybe it's her way of saying she's saying goodbye to music for a very long time after this era?

[CandyShop]

Guys, i know Madonna isn't a nostalgic woman but can it be that she's referring to herself in Indian Summer? It means very beautiful weather before winter, maybe it's a reference to her age and musical career. Maybe it's her way of saying she's saying goodbye to music for a very long time after this era?

Wow at your imagination 😂

[beredy]

I know that logic and reasoning isn't your strong suit Westen, but at least be polite enough to stop putting words into people's mouth? Where did I say that BIM didn't strike "something" with younger generations? You have this nasty habit of making it seem like you're arguing something the other party never actually said, just so you can latch onto something and be right.

Exactly. It might be one of her most popular songs among younger generation these days. But some people are too pressed to admit that...

Do you really think that cameo's from people who are much more popular with younger crowds didn't bring additional interest at first which allowed the video to spread around more than L4L and Ghosttown ever did, despite their releases via new social apps being aimed at younger people? Do you think that the like/dislike ratio didn't help turn BIM into a WOM love it/hate it/laugh at it topic between people of all generations? A lot of stuff went into why BIM gathered views it did. i thought I didn't need to write every dumb fact we all are aware of here, how BIM happened, how the video was filmed, what were the reactions to it, etc... I'm sure that your need to be right at all costs will give you another spin on how right you are, but from now on my reply to you replying to me here will be:

[beredy]

Guys, i know Madonna isn't a nostalgic woman but can it be that she's referring to herself in Indian Summer? It means very beautiful weather before winter, maybe it's a reference to her age and musical career. Maybe it's her way of saying she's saying goodbye to music for a very long time after this era?

I did say to my bf that if that is indeed a title of one of her songs (still a rumor at this point, no other confirmations than a random Portugal paper), that it would be perfect to be the last official single to released - at least name wise as it does tie into what the meaning of Indian summer is. But I hope that's not the case.

[CandyShop]

She's leaving Portugal soon, i doubt she cares about that controversy. Sometimes addressing a rumor makes it worse.

As for Erotica era, it was the biggest backlash any female pop star suffered. Janet's SB controversy was nothing compared to this because it was centered in US and outside US nobody cared much about SB. But with Erotica, Madonna was demonized all around the world. And she survived that storm, that's why she'll always be the most relevant female Pop star ever and that's why fans of other divas HATE her with a passion.

It might sound blasphemous to someone but I think Erotica era was-is SO classy.

One of her finest moment ever in terms of artistry. Such a shame it was all covered by backlash. Pop world was really close-minded back than, pop females act has their way paved these days thanks to her 🙁