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  • #61
    Originally posted by NothingFails
    Originally posted by JustForMe
    I reckon if he made a new album it would not do well, simply because he is old and a lot of kids will not be interested in him.
    You've got a good point here. But his target audience will be older folks who are used to buying albums and can afford it ().

    Overall I do agree with you.
    That's how I feel. I don't think Bowie will sell much to younger kids, but honestly, have "the kids" listened to Bowie since 80s? I think like Springsteen, Paul Simon and Bob Dylan that there's still an audience out there for new Bowie music as like them, he continues to be a timeless artist.
    Oh yes they are timeless and there will always be an audience for them, mainly older fans and a number of younger fans (myself included! ) But what I'm saying is that I can't see him being big again because most people my age and in their teens (the bulk of the music buyers who make the Top 40 what it is) would not know or be interested in him enough for notable success.

    Kate Bush is a recent example, yes she's legendary, iconic and has many fans but her latest album did not do that well in the long run and that is simply because 11-15+ year olds do not have any knowledge or interest in them (why should they? ) Most people I know that are my age only have interest in Katy Perry, Rhianna, Beyonce and the like and have very little interest in older acts. :(

    But ultimately it doesn't matter in the long haul as long I still get new music to listen to, everyone else can have Katy Perry I don't want her!

    With a great album and the support of his older and younger fans he could a Top 20 album, but he has to contend with all of the modern acts and that will be hard, it's only normal.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by crazycrazy
      With a great album and the support of his older and younger fans he could a Top 20 album, but he has to contend with all of the modern acts and that will be hard, it's only normal.
      Guns'n'Roses, if ever reunited, stand a better chance for Top 20 :(

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      • #63
        Bowie's albums have always debuted high in the UK, he's someone who has a built-in fanbase for life. In the US it's always been more hit and miss (Heathen went top 20, Reality went top 30) but as a whole, he's someone who will always have "name value" where people will be interested in checking new music out.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by NothingFails
          Bowie's albums have always debuted high in the UK, he's someone who has a built-in fanbase for life. In the US it's always been more hit and miss (Heathen went top 20, Reality went top 30) but as a whole, he's someone who will always have "name value" where people will be interested in checking new music out.
          I hope he'll drop an album

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          • #65
            For those who love those deluxe anniversary reissues

            http://theseconddisc.com/2012/03/22/han ... -from-emi/

            In 1972, you would have found David Bowie at the crossroads of music, fashion and theatre when he introduced Ziggy Stardust on his now-iconic breakthrough LP The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars. If the album hardly sounded like any other, “alien” might have been too much of an understatement for Ziggy himself. The concept behind the album was light but the songs were heavy, and among the best Bowie had penned to date. Hard rock riffs melded with evocative orchestrations on mini-rock operas like “Suffragette City,” “Moonage Daydream,” “Hang Onto Yourself” and “Five Years,” with The Spiders from Mars – Mick Ronson (guitar, pianos, string arrangements), Trevor Bolder (bass) and Mick Woodmansey (drums) – playing to perfection. Fast-forward to 2012, and a 40th Anniversary Edition of the title seemed inevitable. That release has just been announced by David Bowie’s Facebook team, and in this day and age of the Super Deluxe Edition, it seems positively modest, especially for the flamboyant Ziggy.

            Despite gaining stature over the years as an iconic album of the glam era, Ziggy Stardust only reached No. 75 in the U.S. (it scored significantly better in the U.K., peaking at No. 5) upon its initial release. Ziggy was eventually certified platinum and gold in the U.K. and U.S., respectively. “Starman,” selected as the album’s single, reached No. 10 in the U.K., but echoing the album’s placement, it only managed to make it to No. 65 on the U.S. chart. Still, Ziggy has been released numerous times in the compact disc age, making this new edition just one in a long line of Ziggy Stardust remasters.

            Due on June 4 in the U.K. and June 5 in the U.S., the new Ziggy will be available in a variety of formats (CD, LP, and audio DVD with surround mixes). Hit the jump for all of the details including track listings and discography!

            A basic CD edition will feature a 2012 remaster from Ray Staff, the album’s original mastering engineer at Trident Studios, and Ken Scott, the album’s co-producer. A 180-gram vinyl edition will also be freshly remastered by Staff. A DVD will offer Staff’s 2012 remaster in 96/24 PCM Stereo plus the 5.1 surround mixes created in 2003 by Ken Scott for the now-out-of-print SACD edition. The surround mixes will be available in DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital, and the disc will also contain a stereo fold-down (48/24 PCM) of the original album plus previously unreleased 5.1 mixes of “Moonage Daydream (Instrumental),” “The Supermen,” “Velvet Goldmine” and “Sweet Head.”

            While the inclusion of previously unreleased 5.1 mixes will be enough to entice some surround fans, Bowie’s Facebook page also notes, “This is great news for those of you that have been after a copy of the 2003 Ziggy SACD which featured the 5.1 mixes, as you would be hard-pushed to get change from sixty quid for a copy these days. Somebody is even asking for £175 for a copy on a popular marketplace site right now!”

            How does this edition compare with previous issues? Ziggy had its domestic CD premiere from RCA in 1984 (PCD1-4702) in an edition still prized by audiophiles. When Rykodisc acquired the Bowie catalogue, Ziggy was rolled out with five bonus tracks (RCD-90134) in 1990: demos of “Ziggy Stardust” and “Lady Stardust,” the outtakes “Velvet Goldmine” (also the B-side of the 1975 reissue of “Space Oddity”) and “Sweet Head,” plus an unreleased mix of “John, I’m Only Dancing.” The Bowie catalogue changed hands again near the end of the decade, and the new remasters from Virgin/EMI deleted the bonus tracks from each title. Hence, 1999’s EMI issue (7243 521900 0 3), as remastered by Peter Mew, contains only the original album sequence. Three years later, EMI unveiled a deluxe 2-CD edition of the seminal album (7243 5 39826 2 1) for its 30th anniversary, but the remastering on this set proved controversial. The left and right stereo channels were reversed on the original LP sequence, and some of the songs (“Hang On to Yourself,” the bridge between “Ziggy Stardust” and “Suffragette City”) were clipped. Its second disc contains twelve tracks, many of which had been previously released by Rykodisc and spread among their 1990–92 reissues. Each of the five bonus tracks from the Rykodisc CD appears, albeit some in different form. (“Sweet Head,” for instance, features extended studio chatter at its beginning.) A stereo and multi-channel hybrid SACD (07243 521900 2 7) was released concurrently. The newly-created remaster for the 40th anniversary will likely address the concerns raised about the 30th anniversary set.

            It’s not completely clear how these formats will be sold; the fine U.K. retailer What Records is currently accepting pre-orders for a CD-only edition retailing at £9.99 and an LP+DVD combo at £16.99. Rest assured we’ll report back as soon as pre-order links are active domestically and more information is revealed as to how each format will be sold! The 40th Anniversary Edition of The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars arrives from EMI on June 4 in the U.K. and June 5 in the U.S.!

            David Bowie, The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars (RCA LSP-4702, 1972 – reissued EMI, 2012)

            CD and LP Editions:

            Five Years (2012 – Remaster)
            Soul Love (2012 – Remaster)
            Moonage Daydream (2012 – Remaster)
            Starman (2012 – Remaster)
            It Ain’t Easy (2012 – Remaster)
            Lady Stardust (2012 – Remaster)
            Star (2012 – Remaster)
            Hang On to Yourself (2012 – Remaster)
            Ziggy Stardust (2012 – Remaster)
            Suffragette City (2012 – Remaster)
            Rock ‘N’ Roll Suicide (2012 – Remaster)

            DVD:

            Five Years (2012 – Remaster)
            Soul Love (2012 – Remaster)
            Moonage Daydream (2012 – Remaster)
            Starman (2012 – Remaster)
            It Ain’t Easy (2012 – Remaster)
            Lady Stardust (2012 – Remaster)
            Star (2012 – Remaster)
            Hang On to Yourself (2012 – Remaster)
            Ziggy Stardust (2012 – Remaster)
            Suffragette City (2012 – Remaster)
            Rock ‘N’ Roll Suicide (2012 – Remaster)
            Five Years (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Soul Love (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Moonage Daydream (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Starman (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            It Ain’t Easy (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Lady Stardust (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Star (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Hang On To Yourself (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Ziggy Stardust (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Suffragette City (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Rock ‘N’ Roll Suicide (5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Moonage Daydream (Instrumental) - Previously Unreleased 5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            The Supermen – Previously Unreleased 5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Velvet Goldmine – Previously Unreleased 5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
            Sweet Head – Previously Unreleased 5.1 mixes: DTS 48/24 and Dolby Digital / Stereo mixes: 48/24 LPCM stereo)
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            • #66
              So...if I want to know who David Bowie is...

              Where do I start?
              I can feel this light that's inside of me, growing fast into a bolt of lightning. I know one spark will shock the world...
              --Katy Perry

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Titan3510
                So...if I want to know who David Bowie is...

                Where do I start?
                Scary Monsters and Super Creeps
                Station to Station
                and a good compilation such as Best of Bowie

                Ziggy Stardust is probably the most famous but I have never rated it as his best.
                101 Albums | 501 Songs

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by ShayLaB
                  Originally posted by Titan3510
                  So...if I want to know who David Bowie is...

                  Where do I start?
                  Scary Monsters and Super Creeps
                  Station to Station
                  and a good compilation such as Best of Bowie
                  Agree with those. So much more to him than Ziggy Stardust and his 1980's MTV pop hits like "Let's Dance" and "Blue Jean".
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                  • #69
                    Woo for the re-issue will get it!

                    It's so hard to suggest an album, it's always different for each listener, I tend to lean more toward the more abstract stuff like the "Outside" & "Lodger" albums! "Station & Station" is wonderful but not right for a new listener in my opinion, "Scary Monsters" is a good choice though, he has sooo many albums to choose from!
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by crazycrazy
                      Woo for the re-issue will get it!

                      It's so hard to suggest an album, it's always different for each listener, I tend to lean more toward the more abstract stuff like the "Outside" & "Lodger" albums!
                      Well you aren't the most normal music listener

                      Lodger and Outside are going to scare most newbies off . I remember getting Lodger as a member of Columbia House since they had it on sale cheap and I had a whole "wtf is this"? because I was too new to Bowie's catalog (at that point, Let's Dance and Scary Monsters were the only other titles I had of his, two much more "regular" albums)... a few mos later after exposing myself to more of his stuff, I came back to it and loved it because I had more exposure about what Bowie was about.
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                      • #71
                        I liked Outside

                        Originally posted by crazycrazy
                        Woo for the re-issue

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by NothingFails
                          Originally posted by crazycrazy
                          Woo for the re-issue will get it!

                          It's so hard to suggest an album, it's always different for each listener, I tend to lean more toward the more abstract stuff like the "Outside" & "Lodger" albums!
                          Well you aren't the most normal music listener

                          Lodger and Outside are going to scare most newbies off . I remember getting Lodger as a member of Columbia House since they had it on sale cheap and I had a whole "wtf is this"? because I was too new to Bowie's catalog (at that point, Let's Dance and Scary Monsters were the only other titles I had of his, two much more "regular" albums)... a few mos later after exposing myself to more of his stuff, I came back to it and loved it because I had more exposure about what Bowie was about.
                          Well I loved it straight away! #I'mSoCool
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                          • #73
                            Hunky Dory and Ziggy Stardust are good starters. Or just buy a GH
                            "you act like nothing really happened but it meant the world to me"

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                            • #74
                              I noticed they have the 1968 "Love You Till Tuesday" short film on YouTube. A 30 minute showcase he filmed that largely promoted his debut album, and also included the earliest version of "Space Oddity". "Ching-A-Ling" (some hippie trio song he did because he was in a relationship with the female who sang lead at the time, who in turn left David for the other guy in the band... and of course they're both long obscure while Bowie went on to become a rock icon) has to be the worst thing he ever did, and judging some of his 80's music, that means something

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JldIy0KtqQ0
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                              • #75
                                I hope this article is true. I have so missed David

                                http://www.amouthfulofpennies.wordpress ... he-studio/
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                                • #76
                                  I really hope it's true, he is fantastic!
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                                  • #77
                                    Crossed fingers, the real King Of Rock will be back!
                                    vulnicura.

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                                    • #78
                                      For the longest time I held tight to the idea that Bowie wasn't "retired" but that he was waiting until his heart was in it again and that we would definitely hear more for him in the future.

                                      I don't blame him for the hiatus, he had so many setbacks on the last tour with the heart attack and the stagehand who died 20 mins before the show was set. Plus at the time his daughter was 3-4 so I can't really fault him for making it a priority to be there during her childhood as opposed to his older son who was growing up when his dad was doing Ziggy and everything. She's 11 or 12 now, so I guess Bowie feels like it might be time to get back out into the world.

                                      I have a feeling this will be his highest charting album and biggest selling since the 1980s because Bowie has been away so long that the audience has genuinely missed him.
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                                      • #79
                                        He's back

                                        http://www.davidbowie.com/news/new-webs ... -boy-47841

                                        New Website, Album, Single And Video For The Birthday Boy

                                        "Secret secrets never seen..."

                                        Welcome to the relaunched DavidBowie.com and a whole bunch of exciting new things that you've no doubt already found on the splash page.
                                        The site is a work in progress right now as we continue to import historical data such as The Forum and past news, so please bear with us.

                                        However, if you're anything like us you'll be too interested in David Bowie's new music to worry too much about anything else right now.

                                        We'll leave you with the press release for The Next Day and Where Are We Now?, but be sure to pop back later today for more regarding all of this and more...
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                                        Where is David Bowie?

                                        New Single and Pre-Order of First New Album in 10 Years Exclusively Launching on the iTunes Store Today

                                        New York, NY--January 8, 2013--In the early morning hours of Tuesday the 8th January, Iso/Columbia Records released a new single by David Bowie titled 'Where Are We Now?' exclusively launching in the iTunes Store in 119 countries. David Bowie's first new album in ten years and his 30th studio recording, THE NEXT DAY is also available as a pre-order on iTunes with a wide release scheduled for March. January the 8th is of course David Bowie's birthday, a timely moment for such a treasure to appear as if out of nowhere.

                                        Throwing shadows and avoiding the industry treadmill is very David Bowie despite his extraordinary track record that includes album sales in excess of 130 million not to mention his massive contributions in the area of art, fashion, style, sexual exploration and social commentary. It goes without saying that he has sold out stadiums and broken ticket records throughout the world during this most influential of careers.

                                        In recent years radio silence has been broken only by endless speculation, rumor and wishful thinking ....a new record...who would have ever thought it, who'd have ever dreamed it! After all David is the kind of artist who writes and performs what he wants when he wants...when he has something to say as opposed to something to sell. Today he definitely has something to say.

                                        Produced by long term collaborator Tony Visconti, 'Where Are We Now?' was written by Bowie, and was recorded in New York. The single is accompanied by a haunting video directed by Tony Oursler which harks back to David's time in Berlin. He is seen looking in on footage of the auto repair shop beneath the apartment he lived in along with stark images of the city at the time and a lyric constantly raising the question Where Are We Now?

                                        "The moment you know, you know you know" resonates from the new single's lyric. Now we all know...David Bowie has been in the recording studio...just when we least expected it!!
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                                        The Next Day tracklisting

                                        Standard Version:

                                        01. The Next Day 3:51
                                        02. Dirty Boys 2:58
                                        03. The Stars (Are Out Tonight) 3:56
                                        04. Love Is Lost 3:57
                                        05. Where Are We Now? 4:08
                                        06. Valentine's Day 3:01
                                        07. If You Can See Me 3:16
                                        08. I'd Rather Be High 3:53
                                        09. Boss Of Me 4:09
                                        10. Dancing Out In Space 3:24
                                        11. How Does The Grass Grow 4:33
                                        12. (You Will) Set The World On Fire 3:30
                                        13. You Feel So Lonely You Could Die 4:41
                                        14. Heat 4:25

                                        Total (Approximately) 53:14


                                        Deluxe Version

                                        01. The Next Day 3:51
                                        02. Dirty Boys 2:58
                                        03. The Stars (Are Out Tonight) 3:56
                                        04. Love Is Lost 3:57
                                        05. Where Are We Now? 4:08
                                        06. Valentine's Day 3:01
                                        07. If You Can See Me 3:16
                                        08. I'd Rather Be High 3:53
                                        09. Boss Of Me 4:09
                                        10. Dancing Out In Space 3:24
                                        11. How Does The Grass Grow 4:33
                                        12. (You Will) Set The World On Fire 3:30
                                        13. You Feel So Lonely You Could Die 4:41
                                        14. Heat 4:25

                                        Bonus tracks:
                                        15. So She 2:31
                                        16. I'll Take You There 2:44
                                        17. Plan 2:34

                                        Total (Approximately): 61: 03
                                        >>>>>>>>>>> LAST.FM <<<<<<<<<

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                                        • #80


                                          I like the sound of his new song, it's quite ambient.
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                                          • #81
                                            I've been exploring his discography recently, something I wanted to do for a long time, especially when so many great ukmixers love him like Billy and Kevin, so him announcing a new album was a nice surprise. So far I listened to "Hunky Dory", "The Rise and Fall of Ziggy...", "Heroes", "Low" and "Lodger" and I must say I liked every single one!

                                            This new song is pretty amazing too, his next album will be a new addition to my most anticipated albums of 2013 list
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                                            • #82


                                              David liked to experiment, there are the conventional pop/rock albums then there are more experimental ones!

                                              Try the albums "Outside", "Scary Monsters" & "Station To Station" as well.

                                              "Earthling" is really cool too, there are so many still!
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                                              • #83
                                                Originally posted by crazycrazy
                                                there are so many still!
                                                This was the main reason why it took so long for me to start listening to him, his discography is just so vast
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                                                • #84
                                                  I've been Bowie obsessed since the news broke. I've been a big fan for 17 years now (holy ish... can't believe it's been that long) but him coming back was such glorious news that I never expected.
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                                                  • #85
                                                    I love this man
                                                    Nothing to lose, and we'd get messed up for fun, we went too fast too young

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                                                    • #86


                                                      <3

                                                      Still have lots to get into with David, but I haven't heard anything at all bad as yet!
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                                                      • #87
                                                        Originally posted by CrazyCrazy


                                                        <3

                                                        Still have lots to get into with David, but I haven't heard anything at all bad as yet!
                                                        well I would mostly avoid anything post-Let's Dance pre-Black Tie White Noise. Tonight, Never Let Me Down and the two Tin Machine albums are all low points in his career.
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                                                        • #88
                                                          I'll keep that in mind John thanks!!

                                                          Random: Some of the music in Ashes To Ashes reminds me of the SNES game "Earthbound"!
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                                                          • #89
                                                            Originally posted by CrazyCrazy
                                                            I'll keep that in mind John thanks!!
                                                            Tonight was just a half-assed album he did because the label wanted a followup to Let's Dance. Blue Jean and Loving The Alien are classics, but most of the album is him at his most bored and uninspired. Some of the tracks like Tumble And Twirl sound like him trying to be a tacky lounge singer, and his butchering of "God Only Knows" is def one of his worst moments.

                                                            The Glass Spider tour is hilarious (the tour supporting Never Let Me Down). Bowie attempting to try his hands on doing a MJ/Madonna-style spectacle with loads of backup dancers, elaborate sets and some really terrible choreography. He was so out of his element and the reviews for it were brutal. The album itself is no better, he aimlessly copies lots of big stars at the time (namely Springsteen and Prince) and one song even has him and Mickey Rourke trading off raps. Bowie himself has all but disowned the album, it was hideously bad. The video for Day In Day Out (a total Springsteen ripoff song) is probably him at his most over the top.
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                                                            • #90
                                                              Will listen to the new album properly today, will be back with thoughts! What do others think of it?
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