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  • monarcbutterfly
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    Glitter; a worrying era. There have been low points since, the New Year’s Eve fiasco and the tree lighting ceremony but none match the Glitter era, thankfully.
    It started out ok, Loverboy was ok, it did miss out on that no.1 spot in America and missed out top 10 in UK. It was a long time since that happened. However everything got crazy after that. There were reports of attempted suicide, a mental breakdown and the fact that Loverboy hadn’t done as well as previous lead singles. Mariah was everywhere but not in a good way, the media mocked and laughed at her, they even mocked at her apparent breakdown. It made front page new and they talked about this being the end of her career.
    Much was made of her record-breaking deal with Virgin and the fact that they then dumped her. Glitter the movie was released and the critics trashed her and the movie. TRL happened and the voice messages on her web page, it seemed like she was unraveling. As a fan, I was really worried the worst might happen. It just felt like the world was against her. Thankfully brighter days were ahead.
    As for the album, it’s not one of my faves but there’s a few good songs, LTW being the highlight for me. On a side note, NTF/Hero medley is great and the original Loverboy which we got in the Rarities is now one of my favourite songs. After the scores, Glitter is my 12th favourite album.

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  • Leo
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    I think it's impossible for me to dislike anything Mariah does, specially as she really puts her herat into her projects, but this can be the closest thing to "i hate it" i experienced...

    Those were the days, if i am not mistaken, that mariahdaily was the mariah place t be, or was it already over? What I remember is that this was the first era I really tracked through internet, visitng sites to know about news. So I was really anticipating her return, although it felt too soon after Glitter. TTR was cute but I was not in love with it. Still, a good and different first single. Then I bought it the very same day the album was out, got home, put play and, as far as i can remember, I fell asleep. IT felt boring. It still feels boring. Then I listen to it many times so I ended up liking some songs, Subtle Invitation, Irresistible, BOTH. But her whisper registered is overused, nothing new here.

    It's probably my least fav album by her, but still I find it a good one.

    Boy (I Need You) is such a rare thing in her discography for me. It can be the only 0 for me... I think it's attrocious. But then I am addicted to it... scpecially the remixes Street Remix but specially the HOT AS FIRE Topnotch TOX Mix

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  • Leo
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    Album Title: Charmbracelet
    Release Date: December 3rd 2002 by Island

    General Info: According to Carey, love is the album's main theme, and the songs combine introspective and personal themes with celebration and fun. The album contains a mixture of R&B beats, and the songs incorporate elements of other genres, such as gospel and soul. Compared to Glitter, which featured a variety of sampled melodies from the 1980s, Charmbracelet has a softer hip hop and R&B sound to it. Cam'ron, Jay-Z and Freeway also appear on the album. Mariah started writing songs for the album in early 2002, before she signed the record deal. She decided to rest, traveled to Capri and moved into a recording studio where she could focus on writing and recording without distractions. Most of the album was recorded in Capri, although she traveled to Atlanta, New York and Philadelphia to record some tracks.

    Reviews: Critics described Charmbracelet as one of her most personal records, following 1997's Butterfly. Critics both praised and criticized the condition of Carey's voice on the album; many called the songs average, and felt that most lacked sufficient hooks.

    Commercial performance: Charmbracelet debuted at number three on the US Billboard 200 chart, and sold 241,000 copies in its first week. The album peaked within the top 40 in seven countries, including top ten positions in Japan and Switzerland, and sold an estimated three million copies worldwide.

    Singles:


    US UK AUS CAN FRA GER
    Through The Rain 81 8 15 5 22 36
    Boy (I Need You) (feat. Cam'ron) - 17 29 32 51 73
    Bringin' On the Heartbreak - - - - - -

    Accolades: -

    YouTube: Views belong to the official video as of March 11th 2021

    Through The Rain Official Video - 58.482.076 views
    Boy (I Need You) Official Video feat. Cam'ron - 5.456.316 views
    Bringin' on The Heartbreak Official Video - 2.562.305 views

    Songs listed in the ballot:

    Through the Rain
    Boy (I Need You) [ft. Cam'Ron]
    The One
    Yours
    You Got Me (ft. Jay-Z & Freeway)
    I Only Wanted
    Clown
    My Saving Grace
    You Had Your Chance
    Lullaby
    Irresistible (West Side Connection)
    Subtle Invitation
    Bringin' On the Heartbreak
    Sunflowers for Alfred Roy
    Through the Rain (Remix) [ft. Joe & Kelly Price]
    Boy (I Need You) Copenhaniacs Remix (feat. Cam'ron)
    Boy (I Need You) Remix by The Duke & MVP from Disco Montego
    Boy (I Need You) Street Remix (feat. Cam'ron, Juelz Santana, Jimmy Jones & Freeway)
    Boy (I Need You) Topnotch TOX Mix (feat. Cam'ron, DJ Olabean, Theeyasan & P.L.)
    The One (ft. Bone Crusher) [So So Def Remix]
    Source: wikipedia Mariah Carey & Charmbracelet album.

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  • spiritboy
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    I've sent my votes. She has such a big catalogue, it's more impressive when you think that she's heavily involved in songwriting process. Legend.

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  • Leo
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    Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
    Leo RayRay what were y’all thinking during the breakdown? Were y’all concerned about Kween’s welfare? Did that saga get any significant press where you were?
    I remember feeling sad that she was going through rough times. I felt she was suffering and she didn't deserve such attacks. I remember seeing the media and, although in small doses, they were kind of mocking her situatioo, like "MAriah is having a tantrum because her new project sucks".I feel that in general people love to see artist climb only to see then later on falling down down down, and she was unfortunately in her low times. But I didn't get an impression of it being a big dangerous stage of her life as I think now it was.



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  • Tomer_MC
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    Glitter

    Love the soundtrack!!! the movie is a guilty pleasure for me...

    I had great a great time blasting the album, singing and dancing to it, It was a really fun project and I'm glad it got it's glory moment(s) with the #JusticeforGlitter movement!

    Lead the Way, Reflections, Never Too Far & All My Life were always my fav from the album. Loverboy is pure fun and cute.

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  • RayRay
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    Originally posted by Goldmoney View Post
    Leo RayRay what were y’all thinking during the breakdown? Were y’all concerned about Kween’s welfare? Did that saga get any significant press where you were?
    I wasn't too concerned. It did get press, but back then news was much slower. So by the time I read about it, I guess I also read Mariah saying she was just tired. Don't remember feeling concerned about her welfare. More like: "Oh, the press is going overboard again. Mariah is just working too much, just tired. She's gonna be alright soon."

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  • Goldmoney
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    Leo RayRay what were y’all thinking during the breakdown? Were y’all concerned about Kween’s welfare? Did that saga get any significant press where you were?

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  • bm08
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    Just 9 days left to vote folks!

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  • matthew_dixon
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    I had to cast some votes in here. Not for every last song, but there's a fair amount I know - singles plus "Rainbow" largely.

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  • monarcbutterfly
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    It’s been a while since I visited the forum, been busy so only catching up now.
    Daydream; definitely one of my favourites. I remember hearing Fantasy on the radio for the first time. The reception wasn’t very good and I thought she was singing ‘Free free fantasy baby.’ Lol. Anyway it wasn’t long til I realised that wasn’t the lyric. I remember reading an article before the single came out and it said Mariah had collaborated with a rapper, ODB. I have to admit I hadn’t heard of him at that point, I didn’t really know many rap artists. However when I bought the single and heard the remix, I knew something had changed, her sound had changed. I absolutely loved the remix and still enjoy it. I was only 15 when DD was released and it was a good time in my life so I’ve a lot of happy memories listening to Daydream. After doing my scores for this countdown, Daydream is my third highest scoring album.

    Butterfly; Honey hit hard and that sexy music video was a huge shift in image and sound, it was hinted at during Daydream, especially the remixes but this was something new. I remember listening to Butterfly for the first time and I couldn’t understand why she wasn’t belting every song like on her previous albums. On first listen, I was slightly disappointed I have to admit. I didn’t see (or hear) the beauty in the harmonies, background vocals and runs. As I got older that changed massively and I adore those aspects now, I think it’s why I love her as much as I do. The intricacies in her voice, in my opinion, were on full display on this album. So many standout tracks, basically no skips but for me, Close my Eyes is the one that means most. After doing the scores for this countdown, Butterfly is my highest scoring album.

    Rainbow; my obsession continued. I loved everything about this era. Heartbreaker had a great video that even my non-fan friends liked. The Divas performance of HB/Love Hangover was fire. I actually came out a week before Rainbow was released and I remember going to the record store to buy the album and there she was with a rainbow. The internet was still very much in its infancy so I hadn’t seen the album cover until then. Although I don’t think it’s one of her best, it has a special place in my heart. Petals is one of her most outstanding songs imo. It was also my first time seeing her in concert; Wembley February 2000, I’ll never forget it. After doing the scores, Rainbow was my 11th highest scoring album.

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  • RayRay
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    Glitter: I was thrilled there was a movie to go with it. Especially since Mariah was to play a singer. However, it took some time before I finally saw the movie as there was no theater in my area that played the movie. Once I did see it, I wasn't taken too much by Mariah as an actress, but I liked the storyline and seeing the songs come to life. Bit disappointed how short some songs were featured, especially Loverboy as it was a very important song for Billie in the movie.

    Although I love Lead The Way and Never Too Far, they don't compare to other ballads from earlier albums IMO.

    I was thrilled she would do 80s music, but felt some songs didn't feel 80s at all as there were hardly rap features in those days and here Mariah had some heavy rap features on songs like Last Night A DJ Saved My Life, If We and Don't Stop.
    Still, If We is so catchy, I can't help but enjoy it a lot and don't mind the rap that much.
    I have a hate/love relationship with Last Night A DJ Saved My Life. I love that song, but the rap is way too much and the song drags on too long. I was so looking forward to a single release, hoping it would have a no-rap version and a short Radio Edit. I'm hoping some never before released versions will be released to digital platforms this year as part of her #MC30 celebrations.

    As for the videos, Loverboy was all over various music channels, but I wasn't really taken by them. I love a more classy Mariah and this was just not it for me. I do like the song, but not as much as previous lead singles. I did feel Loverboy was in the vein of Dreamlover/Fantasy/Honey/Sweetheart/Heartbreaker, but way less strong. My favorite version is the one with Cameo. The remix version is too heavy on non-likeable rap IMO. The cd-single did feature some great remixes.

    The video I liked best is Don't Stop, but the song is one of my least favorite Mariah songs ever. The song gives her a great vocal moment in the movie, but I can't enjoy the rap parts, which is way too much in this song.

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  • Leo
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    Loverboy, for some very strange reason, was almost everywhere in Argentina back in 2001. The single was available in record stores, the video was in very heavy rotation on MTV and MuchMusic. But to be honest, I was not in love with the project. I found the song strange and I did not clicked with it. Still, as a lamb, I was supportive and bought the record as soon as it was available.

    On first listen I had mixed emotions with the album. I liked it overall: If We was great but she felt as a feat artist in her own song (something similar to FUnkin' for Jamica), the more 80s tracks were good (Didn't Mean To... and Last Night A DJ...) but they lacked a little soul imo and DJ was extremely long for me, the ballads were beautiful (LEad The Way led the pack by a mile). So it was "this is good but..." all through the album.

    I come and go with this album. Critics were too harsh, but it's not a misunderstood masterpiece imo...

    I don't remember how and when I watched the movie. Of course I enjoyed it, but I must admit her acting was weak. I enjoyed other roles from her much more (Wise Girls and PRecious). I am glad anyway we have this movie, as a lmab is a guilty pleasure.

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  • Leo
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    Some videos but not in any official form:
    Don't Stop (Funkin' 4 Jaimaica) with the heaven trinity that would later on cover her album Memoirs...
    Loverboy (feat. Cameo) I think I saw this video in MTV LA more than any other of her previous ones... I must say the Firecracker version is better imo and that could have had a better video (although I enjoy this one)
    Loverboy Remix does not add too much to the song
    Never Too Far oscar worthy
    Lead The Way I was addicted to Ally McBeal at that time
    Last Night A DJ nice one
    Refelctions: she hit that piano with such an attitude...


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  • Leo
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    Album Title: Glitter
    Release Date: September 11th 2001 by Virgin

    General Info: Mariah signed an unprecedented $100 million, five-album recording contract with Virgin Records (EMI Records) in April 2001. Glitter was a complete musical departure from any of her previous releases, focusing heavily on recreating a 1980s post-disco era to accompany the film, set in 1983, and she was given full conceptual and creative control over the project.
    On July 26 2001, Mariah was hospitalized citing "extreme exhaustion" and a "physical and emotional breakdown." She was admitted to an undisclosed hospital in Connecticut, and remained under doctor's care for two weeks, followed by an extended absence from the public. Virgin Records and 20th Century Fox delayed the release of both Glitter, as well as its soundtrack of the same name. Mariah later credited the project's poor performance on her state of mind during the time of its release, its postponement, as well as the soundtrack having been released on September 11. Mariah's record deal with Virgin Records was bought out for $28 million. Years later she described her time at Virgin "a complete and total stress-fest [...] I made a total snap decision which was based on money and I never make decisions based on money. I learned a big lesson from that."
    Originally, Mariah had sampled the melody and hook from the 1978 Yellow Magic Orchestra song "Firecracker", using an interpolation of it throughout the chorus and introduction. As Mariah had ended her contract with Columbia Records, Jennifer Lopez was signed by Tommy Mottola, and had begun recording material for her album, J.Lo (2001). According to record producer Irv Gotti, Mottola knew of Carey's usage of the "Firecracker" sample, and attempted to have Lopez use the same sample before her. When the music publishers for "Firecracker" were questioned, they admitted Carey had licensed usage of the sample first (and was in fact the first artist to ever request a license for a sample of that song), and Lopez had signed for it over one month later, under Mottola's arrangement. Ultimately Carey was not able to use the original sample, as Lopez's album was to be released far earlier than Glitter. She subsequently changed the composition of "Loverboy", and incorporated a new sample, "Candy" by Cameo. The "Firecracker" sample was eventually used by Lopez on her song "I'm Real" and according to Gotti, Mottola contacted him with instructions to create the Murder Remix of "I'm Real" to sound exactly like another Glitter track he produced, titled "If We" featuring rappers Ja Rule and Nate Dogg.

    Reviews: Upon release, both the album and its accompanying film were met with generally negative reviews from critics, who felt it failed in trying to capture a genuine 1980s theme, and there were too many guest appearances. Retrospective reviews, however, have been largely positive, with many saying the album was unfairly maligned.

    Commercial performance: While it debuted at number seven on the US Billboard 200, it was Carey's lowest first-week sales of any album she had ever released. Internationally, it peaked outside the top ten in many countries, but topped the charts in Japan. Glitter became Carey's least successful album at the time, selling two million copies worldwide.

    Singles:


    US UK AUS CAN FRA GER
    Loverboy (feat. Cameo) 2 12 7 3 54 57
    Reflections (Care Enough) - - - - - -
    Never Too Far - 32 36 - - 97
    Don't Stop (Funkin' 4 Jamaica) (feat. Mystikal) - - - - - -
    Never Too Far/Hero Medley 81 - - - - -

    Accolades: -

    YouTube: Views belong to the official video as of March 8th 2021

    #JusticeforGlitter

    Songs listed in the ballot:
    Didn't Mean to Turn You On
    Don't Stop Funkin' 4 Jaimaica) [ft. Mystikal]
    All My Life
    Reflections (Care Enough)
    Last Night a DJ Saved My Life (ft. Busta Rhymes, Fabolous & DJ Clue)
    Want You (ft. Eric Benét)
    Never Too Far
    Twister
    Loverboy (ft. Cameo)
    Never Too Far/Hero Medley
    Loverboy (Club of Love Remix)
    If We
    Lead The Way
    Loverboy Remix (ft. Da Brat, Lundacris, Twenty II & Shawna)
    Source: wikipedia Mariah Carey & Glitter album.

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  • Tomer_MC
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    Rainbow
    By the time Rainbow was released, I was already a big fan, but still a new one. as I was "on my way" of getting to know her previous work, as the first new Mariah album for me, I had anxiously anticipated it to come out. Heartbreaker was already HUGE and everywhere, I used to play it all day long and watched the video 30 times a day on MTV/VH-1 (I remember waiting by the TV, switching between the two channels, just so I won't miss it lol) and absolutely loved everything about it!

    I think I managed to purchase the album the week it was released (also a first time for me). When I heard the album in full for the first time, I wasn't really impressed by it, I didn't get/like the sequencing of the songs and was constantly waiting to hear big vocal moments, which oddly I didn't dig on CTTA (but later learned to appreciate), so the first song to click familiar with me was Against All Odds and that is track #9, so I was a lil' underwhelmed but it was still good.

    Petals + Rainbow interlude, Crybaby & Bliss are the stand out songs for me and the remix of TGIFU is probably my fav of all time.

    Rainbow was a changing period in both Mariah's music and personal life, and as time pasted, it became more evident of that, as it can be spotted all over the record and her appearances during that era.

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  • RayRay
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    Rainbow: So after Butterfly (which was at the time my least favorite Mariah album) was her last full album and so I was really looking forward with what she would come up next. I bought the album on the day of release and was sooooooooo happy! It felt so much stronger than Butterfly to me even though she did use some rappers on Rainbow as well. Somehow I could connect to them more instantly and felt the Rainbow sound was more catchy overall. And I loved the colourful booklet!
    The tour was another thing to make me love this era. Like the Daydream Tour I went twice. She didn't come to the Netherlands, but she performed in Antwerp, Belgium, which is about as far a ride as when she would have performed in one of the big cities here. Then my friend (who sold me her brother's ticket so we could go to the Daydream concert together and who arranged for us to go to Paris to see a second Daydream concert) asked me to join her to London for a second Rainbow concert. I was in doubt as it would be a lot of money, ticket/travelling/hotel. But she arranged for us to stay at her grandmothers (who lived in London) and my husband urged me to go or I would regret it. So we went and it was just great to see Mariah twice again! At the first concert in Antwerp, Mariah let us wait a long time before she actually came onto the stage, but when she did, she gave us a two hour long show. Unfortunately there was a lot of negativity about the concert in the newspapers the next day. So when she performed in London, almost all videos with Bianca were gone. Yes, they were gringy sometimes, but I could see the fun of it. Luckily the one video with Bianca that was still in the show featured some Dutch fans I know, so that was nice. She also left out two songs to make the show shorter. One of them being Sweetheart which was one of my favorite Mariah songs (and a Top 40 hit here), so that was a bit of a disappointment, but I was glad I had at least heard her perform in Antwerp. I could understand the critism about the Bianca clips (you have to be a fan to understand the fun of it, I guess), but how could anyone say there were too many songs?!! I felt grateful I had seen the first show with everything like she had meant it to be.


    Heartbreaker: I love the video and the album version. The no-rap version is also a favorite of mine of course, although I don't mind the Jay-Z rap at all. It fits the song and is fun, a nice addition. The remix is someting I usually skip though as there is way too much rap for my taste. The dance remixes on the other hand are just brilliant. They took a while to grow on me as I really love the added "If You Should Ever Be Lonely" part, but those versions are really long and I'm not always in the mood for those 10 minute versions. My favorite version is the live version where she combines the song with Love Hangover.

    Can't Take That Away: I was really happy for Mariah to work with one of my favorite songwriters: Diane Warren. And how I LOVE this song. I was going through some hard times and the lyrics of this song always gave me comfort.

    How Much: I loved this song a lot! The voice of Usher goes really well with Mariah and the sample is just perfect for this song. When Beyonce and Toni Braxton used the same sample I thought their songs were boring and couldn't stand in the shadow of what Mariah did with it.

    X-Girlfriend: Although I don't listen to this song that often anymore, at the time it was one of my very favorites of the album. It was one of my most played songs back then. I thought it was a lot of fun and hoped it would be a future single. I was really happy she performed this one during the Rainbow Tour. I always imagined Mariah on stage at Jerry Springer's in the video.

    Against All Odds: First time I heard it, I didn't like it at all. I really loved Phil Collins' version and this was so different. But it grew quickly on me and became one of my all time favorite covers. I loved to sing along to this one. I loved it when Westlife gave her another #1 in the UK. And here in the Netherlands it became a hit twice. First the solo version and just as it had left the Top 40, the new version entered the charts. Although neither version reached the Top 10, it is well remembered and often chosen at talent shows (especially the duet version).

    Crybaby: I thought this was just an "okay" song at first. But when it was released as a single and I saw the video, I really fell in love with it. And although I hardly ever drink alcohol, I just had to try Baileys (and it now is one of the very few alcoholic drinks I really like). I prefer the single version (with less rap), but I don't mind the rap too much here as it fits and flows really well with the song.

    Did I Do That?: I love the melody of this song and how catchy it is. The rappers are awful IMO, so much screaming, but even they can't make me hate on the song. Just too good.

    Petals: This is the Looking In, the Outside of this album. A personal, not-commercial, album track near the end of the album. I loved Looking In and although I love the Outside lyrics, I always felt it lacked in melody. But here was Petals, which was a lot longer than the other two and had such nice layers and sweet melody that I think this is the best one out of those three.

    Rainbow Interlude: Way too short, but a great interlude. She once said she was thinking of making it a longer song in the future, but I think we are passed that now, so I'm no longer hoping for a longer version and enjoy Rainbow for the beautiful interlude that it is.

    Thank God I Found You: This felt a lot like One Sweet Day part 2 IMO and I thought for that reason it would be a perfect future single. When it was released I especially enjoyed the StarGate Radio Edit. Such a way better intro than the album version. And although I am not really a fan of the Make It Last Remixes, I was grateful we got a re-sung remix, a bonus video and a no-rap version of that said remix. I also loved her singing the song with Trey Lorenz. I always prefer a duet to be sung with an actual present singer than the original singer on a screen (like she does when performing When You Believe).



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  • Tomer_MC
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    Butterfly
    Forever going to be my fav record of all time. back then, it was much easier to get immersed into a song or even an album without having to listen or read every one opinions and analyzes, as it happened since. I could actually form MY OWN opinion and feel like I was the only one in the world that a certain song or a lyric touched. I felt that way the most about Butterfly - first the song and quickly after about the whole album. It was that special to me (& only me). though now It feels like being 1 of the millions of lambs and regular listeners who loves it, I still have my own way of feeling about it that it's uniquely mine.

    Butterfly is the album that best stood the test of time and somehow manages to sound as current and exciting as ever. I have so many memoires, I honesty don't know where or how to begin... but, to make long story short, I love all the little details Mariah put on to this album, I know every single one. I love the lyrics and the melodies, the productions, the live performances, the videos, the interviews - everything.

    Edit:
    That era had so much more to expand in terms of releasing singles and promo - it was such a waste BUT we got The Roof & Breakdown videos and a couple of live performances for us to entertain and treasure for life.
    Last edited by Tomer_MC; Sat March 6, 2021, 17:52.

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  • bm08
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    The remixes for this album are epic. I think TGIFY remix is up there with her best.

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  • Leo
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    This was a rushed album, and it feels like one... Although I loved Heartbreaker and it's remix, and had BIG expectations for the album, it ended up being a mid point effort. I like many songs though, but coming right after Butterfly and #1s, this felt dissapointing.

    Anyway, the Heratbreak era was amazing. I loved the video and song, and for the first time I bought the single which was available in Argentina, something very rare here. It helped me reduce the tension while I awaited the album release. I think I bought the album the same day the album dropped. And while I listen and couldn't connect to almost any song, the booklet felt cheap too. I gave it a lot of tries and ended up liking some songs, in fact Petals and Against All Odds are amongst her best imo, but the whole thing was raw...

    The best thing ever about this era was that Mariah was dating Luis Miguel, and that he did a tour and that was the first and only time Mariah visited Argentina and I went to a record signing event and could look in her eyes and tell her I loved her. She was extremely beautiful, her super straight hair, her smile. Her voice saying "oh, thank you" still sounds in my head (and heart). Sadly she didn't do a show or anything, just a TV appearance, or a couple. But hey, I got Rainbow outographed and Mariah saw me in the eye, so this is the best era ever lol

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  • Leo
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    Almost 100M views for these videos.

    This song is part of my gift for my wife when I proposed and we decided to embark in this great adventure togetehr. 1 kid after I can say we've had a great ride so far.



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  • Leo
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    Album Title: Rainbow
    Release Date: November 2nd 1999 by Columbia Records

    General Info: With only one album left to fulfill her contract with Sony, and with a burning desire to separate herself professionally from the record label her ex-husband still headed, Mariah completed her 1999 album in just three months. Titled Rainbow, the album found her exploring with producers which she had not worked with before. Rainbow became Mariah's first album to not feature a collaboration with her longtime writing partner, Walter Afanasieff, instead choosing to work with David Foster and Diane Warren. Rainbow contains a mix of hip hop-influenced R&B jams, as well as a variety of slow ballads. As a result of her separation from her husband, Tommy Mottola, Carey had more control over the musical style of this album, so she collaborated with several artists such as Jay-Z, Usher, and Snoop Dogg, as well as Missy Elliott, Joe, Da Brat, Master P, 98°, and Mystikal.
    Rainbow became the center of conflict between Mariah and her label. After her divorce from Sony record official and Columbia CEO Tommy Mottola, Carey's working relationship with the label deteriorated. She intended for "Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme)" to be the third single from Rainbow, as it held very personal lyrical content. However, Sony made it clear that they intended the third single should be a more upbeat and urban track. The difference in opinion led to a very public feud, as Mariah began posting messages on her webpage in early and mid-2000, telling fans inside information on the dispute, as well as instructing them to request "Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme)" on radio stations. One of the messages she left on her page read: "Basically, a lot of you know the political situation in my professional career is not positive. It's been really, really hard. I don't even know if this message is going to get to you because I don't know if they want you to hear this. I'm getting a lot of negative feedback from certain corporate people. But I am not willing to give up." Mariah's actions were given mixed reception, with critics and executives commending her bold actions regarding a song she felt needed to be heard, while others criticized her for publicizing the dispute further. Soon after, Sony stripped Carey's webpage of messages and began negotiations. Fearing to lose their label's highest seller and the best-selling artist of the decade, Sony chose to release the song. Mariah, initially content with the agreement, soon found out that the song had only been given a very limited and low-promotion release.

    Reviews: Critical reception of Rainbow was generally positive, with the general consensus finding: "what began on Butterfly as a departure ends up on Rainbow a progression – perhaps the first compelling proof of Carey's true colors as an artist."

    Commercial performance: Rainbow was released to the highest first week sales of her career at the time, however debuting at number two on the Billboard 200. Though a commercial success, Rainbow became Carey's lowest selling album at that point in her career.

    Singles: Five singles were released from the album, two of which became number-one hits on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, making Rainbow her seventh-consecutive studio album to produce a number-one song.


    US UK AUS CAN FRA GER
    Heartbreaker (feat. Jay-Z) 1 5 10 1 4 9
    Thank God I Found You (feat. Joe & 98°) 1 10 27 2 28 28
    Crybaby (feat. Snoop Dogg) 28 - - 4 - -
    Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme) - - - - - -
    Against All Odds (with Westlife) - 1 52 - 18 29

    Accolades: -

    YouTube: Views belong to the official video as of March 4th 2021

    Heartbreaker Official Video feat. Jay-Z with Cartoon - 41.247.722 views
    Heartbreaker Official Video feat. Jay-Z - 1.072.772 views
    Heartbreaker Remix Official Video feat. Da Brat & Missy Elliott - 6.171.761 views
    Thank God I Found You Official Video feat. Joe & 98° - 20.508.084 views
    Thank God I Found You (Make It Last Remix) Official Video feat. Joe & Nas - 3.321.903 views
    Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme) Official Video - 5.837.364 views
    Crybaby Official Video feat. Snoop Dogg - 1.279.518 views
    Against All Odds (Take A Look At Me Now) Official Video with Westlife - 19.547.135 views
    Against All Odds Live - 481.746 views

    Songs listed in the ballot:

    Heartbreaker (ft. Jay-Z)
    Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme)
    Bliss
    How Much (ft. Usher)
    After Tonight
    X-Girlfriend
    Heartbreaker (Remix) [ft. Da Brat & Missy Elliott]
    Vulnerability (Interlude)
    Against All Odds (Take a Look At Me Now)
    Crybaby (ft. Snoop Dogg)
    Did I Do That? (ft. Mystikal & Master P)
    Petals
    Rainbow (Interlude)
    Thank God I Found You (ft. Joe & 98 Degrees)
    Can't Take That Away (Mariah's Theme) [Morales Revival Triumphant Mix]
    Heartbreaker / If You Should Ever Be Lonely (Junior's Heartbreaker Club Mix)
    Thank God I Found You (ft. Joe & Nas) [Make It Last Remix]
    Love Hangover / Heartbreaker Live
    Source: wikipedia Mariah Carey & Rainbow album.

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  • Thriller
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    Sent mine, I culled 3/4 of the songs to just rate the ones I know.

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  • RayRay
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    Butterfly - the album
    I was very excited of course for this album and bought it on the day it was released. It was so hard to choose between the open eyes cover and the closed eyes one. I chose the closed eyes one although I prefered the other picture, but well, both pictures were on both cd's and I figured the closed eyes would be more special as it was said to be a limited edition only.
    Then one day we went to Germany and saw a store where they sold the album with a free butterfly sticker. I really wanted, but I thought it would be ridiculous to buy the album again just to have the sticker. My husband saw how torn I was and moved the sticker into an album he bought, so I got the sticker anyway.
    I had mixed feelings when I first heard the album. Up till that point Mariah never had rappers on her album and now there were several and so for the first time I prefered "remixed" versions instead of the album versions like Honey - Smooth Version and Breakdown - Radio Edit. It took me years to really appreciate Breakdown and I've never really learned to love Babydoll.
    And while Daydream was an album that gave me great memories with my husband, Butterfly was an album he didn't like much (except for My All). And I had a friend who also bought every album/VHS/single by Mariah wasn't interested anymore. So I just to play the album a lot while being alone in my car driving to and from work.

    Honey: I began to see a patern for the leadsingle - midtempo R&B fun song: Dreamlover, Fantasy, Honey. I was happy I found the promo single with the smooth version, which became my go-to version when playing Honey. I loved the video! I was really surprised as I never thought of Mariah as a video-artist. I recorded many videos and played the videos of Madonna, Janet, Whitney and Paula Abdul all the time. I did record the videos of Mariah as well, but didn't play them much as I thought they were a bit boring. Honey was her first video that made me think she could be a video star after all.

    Butterfly: A favorite from the start. Such beautiful lyrics. And although it's about her and Tommy, I've shared it with friends who lost a child as the lyrics seemed so fitting. There is so much meaning in this song, it will always be a song I love.

    My All: When I just bought the album, this was my favorite song and I hoped really hard it would become a single. I was so happy when it not only became a single, but she also gave it some of her best remixes (My All/Stay Awhile) and live versions (Divas Live). It was also one of the few songs by husband loves (together with Whenever You Call), so it was easily my most played song and I'm afraid I overplayed it a bit. I still love this song today, but it's not my go-to song when I want to listen to Mariah or something from this era.

    The Roof: Another favorite of mine. I LOVED Long Ago from Daydream, but I loved this even more. Same vibe, but there's something about The Roof that makes me love this song sooo much: the lyrics, the way she sings it, the beat. A real gem.
    I was really happy this got released, but unfortunately radio didn't play it. Honey was a Top 10 hit, but Butterfly failed to reach the Top 40 and DJ's just didn't bother with The Roof. Then Mariah came to the Netherlands to promote the album and she did some interviews. One was on live on tv and they played the Honey video and I felt this was such a missed opportunity for The Roof. I guess Mariah didn't even know The Roof was her latest single here. (Luckily My All did reach the Top 40.)

    Fourth of July: This is very much in the vein of Underneath The Stars which I love a lot. So it was not that difficult for Fourth of July to make me fall in love with it. So many layers and such a beautiful lyric. I played it a lot and still love it very much. My husband used to make fun of the way she sang it: "What is she singing? How can you understand mumbling? Why is she singing For The Children?"

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  • Leo
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    By 1997 I was a big fan, not hiding it. I was in my last high school year and one friend was also a fan just because I liked her and he was opne to listen to her and enjoyed the music. I started dating a girl and I was making a line to enter a cinema with her, standing in the street right in the door of a TV shop, and there I saw it for the very first time... Honey video was on a TV... I was paralyzed, MAriah was HOT AS FIRE and dancing a little bit, but I just could not listen to the song, it was just the images! I must say i forgot I was there with my girfriend, and needless to say that relationship didn't stnad for long lol.

    Well, I don't remember which movie we saw or anything, but I remember just how obsessed I was about the video and I needed to see it. I watched MTV nonstop until the song appeared. I was blown away. The song was sooooo different from her previous work. I loved it since the start, and the video was great. I think my tv never left MTV and my life revolved around catching the song there. Radio would not play Honey and there was no internet, so it was just a question of patiently waiting for the video.

    I also remember that I had no info about the release date, so I would just go periodically to my record store and ask abut it. The guy there was very cool and started to investigate about it, maybe cause he wanted to sell me the record or just becuase he could not stand me going EVERY day asking. And then one day, I was with my brother, and asked him to enter and ask. I think I had been every single prior day so, although I had 0 hopes, needed to check. And he came out, told me he didn't have it, but as he walked with me suddenly took out the album and gave it to me. I was speechless... I had to go to school so couldn't listen to it straight away, so again I just had to WAIT... I took the album with me, told my frined I got it and durign the whole afternoon we would just read the lyrics, see pictures and just imagine things up.

    In the break, he turned on the radio in his walkman and told me they were previewing songs in the local pop radio station, so we just listened to the show, where I just remember listening to My All. When I got home I played the album and I can surely say taht the cd did not leave my cd player for at least 6 months. I fell in love deeplywith the album, and all videos coming out were just amazing. Breakdown was an instant fav, the song ADN the video. The RS cover was sublime, the MTV Video Awards dress, My All... god it was the best time to be a lamb.

    I started to read and learn more and more about Mariah, that's why I feel that's the time I evolved from a fan to a lamb. I think one night, or early mornign, I suddenly run across Stay Awhile video and gosh that was PERFECT. Then I saw The Roof video, which I hadn't watched before. The Divas Live...

    This is by far my fav mariah era.

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