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  • Out of all those ROTY/SOTY submissions, I just see Señorita easily getting there. Maren and Maggie choices are really random. I mean, both GIRL and Lights on are their most recognisabled songs but there are better songs and with better narrative (if we talk about awards circuits) on their albums (Common and Alaska, for example).

    Sheryl Crow is really trying to "leave" with a bang seeing all those submissions. I don´t know how that could work for her tho.
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      • Originally posted by Beautyisbeauty View Post
        Out of all those ROTY/SOTY submissions, I just see Señorita easily getting there.
        I always feel like the albums/songs that are big during the voting period always have the best chance at being nominated for the big awards as they are fresh on people's mind and many know about them. Half of the songs already feel old
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        • Originally posted by Beautyisbeauty View Post
          Out of all those ROTY/SOTY submissions, I just see Señorita easily getting there.
          I always feel like the albums/songs that are big during the voting period always have the best chance at being nominated for the big awards as they are fresh on people's mind and many know about them. Half of the songs already feel old
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          • I agree. That's why Bad Guy, Senorita, Truth Hurts and Old Town Run are probably getting in, and Someone You Loved is a last minute frontrunner.
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            • Originally posted by BeeBoy View Post
              These can't be complete right? Why would Madino and Solange not submit to genre specific awards? Why would Tyler, the creator not submit his album at all when it is a strong contender?
              These lists don't have all the submissions, a lot is missing
              As a singer, songwriter and producer Bruno Mars has sold over 169 million singles

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              • ^Solange is submitting her album to Urban Contemporary (should've been to R&B tbh!).

                Rosalia submitting her album to Best Latin Rock, Urban or Alternative Album. Interesting.

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                • Originally posted by Ska8er View Post
                  - You need to remember that it's people from various genres voting for the nominations, so Khalid is safe as long as his name is known and the quality is there.
                  I think I remember reading somewhere that you are allowed to just vote in categories you're familiar with if you want to.

                  Which is why I guess the reason why Janelle Monae was missing from Urban Contemporary last year cause maybe she didn't get enough votes from the 'R&B & Urban voters' but she managed to sneak in in Album of the Year cause she received enough votes from everybody else (everyone has to vote for the General Field categories but doesn't have to for the genre categories).

                  Let me try finding the article.

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                  • A list of the full submissions is updated here if you're interested.
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                    • [MENTION=38400]trebor[/MENTION]: Thanks for the answer. It's good that indie artists are allowed to participate even when their records have been sold only in minimal quantities. I've had Steve Grand in mind who is an indie singer and his last album didn't reach the Billboard 200. It's good that the show goes by quality and not success since there are enough award shows that reward that.
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                      • I hope Halsey gets at least one of these nominations for "Without Me".

                        Also, WTF at Katy trying SOTF with "Small Talk". And "Nothing Breaks Like A Heart" should have been submitted for Best Video as well.

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                        • Originally posted by Tansike View Post
                          I hope Halsey gets at least one of these nominations for "Without Me".

                          Also, WTF at Katy trying SOTF with "Small Talk". And "Nothing Breaks Like A Heart" should have been submitted for Best Video as well.
                          Agree for all WM would definitely get these noms if it was still a hit right now
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                          • ROTY is going to bad guy for sure

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                            • I'm really not sure how the GRAMMY voters would feel about Billie Eilish. Her musical direction is a bit tricky.

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                              • You as a jury can vote own your own categories and several others (there is a limit, I can't remember it) and said limit, I believe it also includes the general categories. So if you belong to the rock comittee you vote on the rock ones, but you can sneak votes in R&B, Enginner album, producer and whatever you want along with the main categories, of course you can't vote for everything. It used to be this way, not sure anymore.
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                                • Let's say X, Y and Z submit their albums for AOTY. X and Y were successful on the Billboard 200, Z sold the said 12 copies in the neighbourhood. Do the voters need to listen to all albums first or could they pick Y alone for the fact that it was the only album they heard out of the three? Talking about equal chances for X, Y and Z...
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                                  and everything you stand for?
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                                  just to tell you that I see more?

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                                  • They could definitely just pick Y. There is no way to control such things. The voters should take their job serious though and actually listen but that will not always be the case, many voters already know who they vote for based on name or genre(for general fields) alone. At least they're trying though compared to many other awards
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                                    • ^I think so too. Even sometimes it takes months for me to end up enjoying an album so of course the voters will vote for the album they're most familiar with.

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                                      • Random but I was just looking at the Hot 100 and Halsey's "Without Me" is still inside the top 40 in its 51st week. Whew, I didn't know Americans are still obsessed with that song.

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                                        • Wait so you get free physical albums for the GRAMMYs "For Your Considerations"? Where can I apply?



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                                          • Originally posted by abi View Post
                                            Random but I was just looking at the Hot 100 and Halsey's "Without Me" is still inside the top 40 in its 51st week. Whew, I didn't know Americans are still obsessed with that song.
                                            That's the Americans... They take ages to pick up a song and then they try to hold on to it as long as possible ;) .
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                                            and everything you stand for?
                                            Could I break through your invisible wall, could I hide my pride for once,
                                            just to tell you that I see more?

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                                            • Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
                                              That's the Americans... They take ages to pick up a song and then they try to hold on to it as long as possible ;) .
                                              I think the old rules of the Billboard Hot 100 have conditions for charting a current hit before it falls out. Re-entries are not allowed then. Also, streaming points changed chart placements, making it easy for any popular song to enter the Hot 100.

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                                              • BILLBOARD: Last Year, the Oscars Revealed 'Shortlists' in 9 Categories: Here's Why the Grammys Should Follow Suit

                                                The Oscars seem to understand that transparency is a virtue; that fans want to know how the process works & how the races are shaping up.

                                                The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences made a bold move last December that the Recording Academy would be wise to emulate: They publicly announced "shortlists" in nine of their 24 categories.

                                                On Dec. 17, 2018, the Oscars announced shortlists of between seven and 15 semifinalists in nine categories. They announced 15 semifinalists for original song, original score and documentary feature; 10 for documentary short subject, animated short film, live action short film and visual effects; nine for foreign language film; and seven for makeup & hairstyling.

                                                They also revealed the number of submissions in seven of those categories. (They didn't reveal the number of entries for visual effects and makeup & hairstyling.)

                                                Because the Oscars let film fans peek behind the curtain a bit, they were rewarded with stories in countless media outlets. This served to put the focus on Oscar more than a month before the nominations were announced on Jan. 22, 2019.

                                                The Oscars seem to understand that transparency is a virtue; that fans want to know -- and have a right to know -- how the process works and how the races are shaping up.

                                                The early release of information last year meant that, for example, the writers of 15 best song candidates got an early Christmas present, while the writers of the 75 other eligible songs were informed that this was not going to be their year. They got the bad news five weeks before Nominations Day, so they got their disappointment out of the way early.

                                                The Grammys have tended to be more secretive over the years. Since 1995, the nominees in the Big Four categories (album, record and song of the year plus best new artist) have been determined by a Nominations Review Committee. This committee meets to select the finalists they deem most worthy from lists of the 20 entries in each of those categories that received the most support from rank-and-file voting members. (At least that's how the Recording Academy describes the process.)

                                                The committee was put in place by the Academy's former President/CEO Mike Greene after there was criticism in the industry that the 1994 nominees were "out-of-touch" with the most vital currents in contemporary music. Tony Bennett's MTV Unplugged won album of the year, and The 3 Tenors in Concert 1994 was nominated, while such albums as Pearl Jam's Vs., Soundgarden's Superunknown, Green Day's Dookie, Hole's Live Through This, Boyz II Men's II and Vince Gill's When Love Finds You weren't nominated in that category.

                                                Change was evident the very next year when the album of the year nominees included Pearl Jam's Vitalogy (Grammy voters had rarely embraced harder-edged rock) and Joan Osborne's Relish (a comparatively modest hit which had only reached No. 46 on the Billboard 200 by the end of 1995, when the committee met).

                                                Neil Portnow, who succeeded Greene as president/CEO in 2002, kept the Nominations Review Committee in place throughout his 17-year tenure.

                                                But the Recording Academy has never publicly revealed the recordings, songs and new artists that were on those "shortlists" that went to the Nominations Review Committee. Now that the Academy has new leadership, in the form of Deborah Dugan, its first female president/CEO, it should ask itself a simple question: "Why not?"

                                                It's true that the nine categories in which the Oscars revealed the shortlists last year were, for the most part, secondary categories. They didn't reveal the shortlists in their Big Four categories: best picture, best actress, best actor and best director. But, after a successful launch, they may expand the number of categories in which they reveal their shortlists. And even if they don't, the Grammys can build on what the Oscars have done and take the idea even further.

                                                I'm not the first Billboard writer to call for more transparency from the Grammys. Nearly five years ago, Jason Lipshutz, now Billboard's senior director, music, wrote: "Whereas Oscar season is defined by months of jockeying for nomination consideration, public and private arguments about what will and should win best picture, and months of multiplex visits to make sure that you, the dutiful viewer, have watched as many nominated films as possible, the Grammy Awards just… sort of… come and go.

                                                "…There's a level of investment in the major Oscar categories that does not exist, and may never exist, with the top trophies at the Grammys….The Grammys could take a major cue from the Oscars and put more stock in the nomination process, so that we obsess over which songs and albums could make the respective shortlists months in advance of their unveiling, and what nominations mean for the legacy of those projects."

                                                Additional questions Dugan might ask are: "What would be the harm in letting people know what was on the shortlists?" "We're proud of our process, our membership and our committees, so why not be more open about it?" and "The Oscars moved to transparency. Why are so we so secretive?"
                                                See latest news on Reports, Infractions & Bans
                                                See Mariah Carey's Memoir thread

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                                                • BILLBOARD: Last Year, the Oscars Revealed 'Shortlists' in 9 Categories: Here's Why the Grammys Should Follow Suit

                                                  The Oscars seem to understand that transparency is a virtue; that fans want to know how the process works & how the races are shaping up.

                                                  The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences made a bold move last December that the Recording Academy would be wise to emulate: They publicly announced "shortlists" in nine of their 24 categories.

                                                  On Dec. 17, 2018, the Oscars announced shortlists of between seven and 15 semifinalists in nine categories. They announced 15 semifinalists for original song, original score and documentary feature; 10 for documentary short subject, animated short film, live action short film and visual effects; nine for foreign language film; and seven for makeup & hairstyling.

                                                  They also revealed the number of submissions in seven of those categories. (They didn't reveal the number of entries for visual effects and makeup & hairstyling.)

                                                  Because the Oscars let film fans peek behind the curtain a bit, they were rewarded with stories in countless media outlets. This served to put the focus on Oscar more than a month before the nominations were announced on Jan. 22, 2019.

                                                  The Oscars seem to understand that transparency is a virtue; that fans want to know -- and have a right to know -- how the process works and how the races are shaping up.

                                                  The early release of information last year meant that, for example, the writers of 15 best song candidates got an early Christmas present, while the writers of the 75 other eligible songs were informed that this was not going to be their year. They got the bad news five weeks before Nominations Day, so they got their disappointment out of the way early.

                                                  The Grammys have tended to be more secretive over the years. Since 1995, the nominees in the Big Four categories (album, record and song of the year plus best new artist) have been determined by a Nominations Review Committee. This committee meets to select the finalists they deem most worthy from lists of the 20 entries in each of those categories that received the most support from rank-and-file voting members. (At least that's how the Recording Academy describes the process.)

                                                  The committee was put in place by the Academy's former President/CEO Mike Greene after there was criticism in the industry that the 1994 nominees were "out-of-touch" with the most vital currents in contemporary music. Tony Bennett's MTV Unplugged won album of the year, and The 3 Tenors in Concert 1994 was nominated, while such albums as Pearl Jam's Vs., Soundgarden's Superunknown, Green Day's Dookie, Hole's Live Through This, Boyz II Men's II and Vince Gill's When Love Finds You weren't nominated in that category.

                                                  Change was evident the very next year when the album of the year nominees included Pearl Jam's Vitalogy (Grammy voters had rarely embraced harder-edged rock) and Joan Osborne's Relish (a comparatively modest hit which had only reached No. 46 on the Billboard 200 by the end of 1995, when the committee met).

                                                  Neil Portnow, who succeeded Greene as president/CEO in 2002, kept the Nominations Review Committee in place throughout his 17-year tenure.

                                                  But the Recording Academy has never publicly revealed the recordings, songs and new artists that were on those "shortlists" that went to the Nominations Review Committee. Now that the Academy has new leadership, in the form of Deborah Dugan, its first female president/CEO, it should ask itself a simple question: "Why not?"

                                                  It's true that the nine categories in which the Oscars revealed the shortlists last year were, for the most part, secondary categories. They didn't reveal the shortlists in their Big Four categories: best picture, best actress, best actor and best director. But, after a successful launch, they may expand the number of categories in which they reveal their shortlists. And even if they don't, the Grammys can build on what the Oscars have done and take the idea even further.

                                                  I'm not the first Billboard writer to call for more transparency from the Grammys. Nearly five years ago, Jason Lipshutz, now Billboard's senior director, music, wrote: "Whereas Oscar season is defined by months of jockeying for nomination consideration, public and private arguments about what will and should win best picture, and months of multiplex visits to make sure that you, the dutiful viewer, have watched as many nominated films as possible, the Grammy Awards just… sort of… come and go.

                                                  "…There's a level of investment in the major Oscar categories that does not exist, and may never exist, with the top trophies at the Grammys….The Grammys could take a major cue from the Oscars and put more stock in the nomination process, so that we obsess over which songs and albums could make the respective shortlists months in advance of their unveiling, and what nominations mean for the legacy of those projects."

                                                  Additional questions Dugan might ask are: "What would be the harm in letting people know what was on the shortlists?" "We're proud of our process, our membership and our committees, so why not be more open about it?" and "The Oscars moved to transparency. Why are so we so secretive?"
                                                  See latest news on Reports, Infractions & Bans
                                                  See Mariah Carey's Memoir thread

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                                                  • Oscars have been doing shortlists for a long long time. I don't know if they did more categories last year, but Foreign Movies, Docs, Shorts and Song categories have had shortlists for some time now.
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                                                    • First Round Grammy Voting ends tonight!
                                                      See latest news on Reports, Infractions & Bans
                                                      See Mariah Carey's Memoir thread

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                                                      • 1 week till nominations are announced.
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                                                        • As much as I love Alicia, she was boring as heck this year. Her flat delivery & expressions put me to sleep.

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                                                          • Yup, she's so boring, not funny, doesn't rlly have huge character...
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                                                            • So guys? Final predictions?

                                                              Ariana, Billie and Lizzo seem definites for AOTY. I think Taylor was able to have a good campaign the past few months so she probably secured a nom too.

                                                              I hope Tyler and B make it but I'm not so sure anymore.
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