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    Rock Hall of Fame: Notorious B.I.G., Whitney Houston, Soundgarden Lead Nominees

    The nominations for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame’s class of 2020 are in, and the list features the Notorious B.I.G., Whitney Houston, Pat Benatar, Dave Matthews Band, Depeche Mode, the Doobie Brothers, Judas Priest, Kraftwerk, MC5, Motörhead, Nine Inch Nails, Rufus featuring Chaka Khan, Todd Rundgren, Soundgarden, T. Rex, and Thin Lizzy. The top vote-getters will be announced in January and inducted May 2nd, 2020, at a ceremony at Cleveland’s Public Hall.

    To be eligible for this year’s ballot, each nominee’s first single or album had to have been released in 1994 or earlier. In a break with recent history, a majority of the nominees are appearing on the ballot for the first time, including Dave Matthews Band, the Doobie Brothers, Motörhead, the Notorious B.I.G., Benatar, Soundgarden, T. Rex, Thin Lizzy, and Houston. This is the sixth ballot appearance for Kraftwerk, the fifth for the MC5, the fourth for Rufus featuring Chaka Khan, the third for Nine Inch Nails and Depeche Mode, and the second for Judas Priest and Rundgren.

    A voter pool of more than 1,000 artists, historians, journalists, and members of the music industry will select the new class. Fans will also have a chance to take part in the process by voting at rockhall.com or at an interactive kiosk at the museum in Cleveland.

    “Nothing stays the same in music,” incoming Rock Hall chairman John Sykes told Rolling Stone last month. “Therefore, really, the institution that honors it has to evolve with all the music. Just like hip-hop is very much a part of the Hall of Fame now, everything we do — the board members we have, the events we build on — has to reflect a changing culture without ever disregarding or turning our backs on the ideals and fundamentals of the Rock Hall.”

    As has become tradition, the Hall of Fame has announced the individual members of each band that will be inducted. The countless iterations of Nine Inch Nails, however, mean that Trent Reznor will accept the honor alone should the group get in.

    Current Dave Matthews Band members Matthews, Stefan Lessard, Carter Beauford, Tim Reynolds, Rashawn Ross, and Jeff Coffin were selected along with former violinist Boyd Tinsley and deceased saxophonist LeRoi Moore.

    The Doobie Brothers have seen many members come and go over the years, but the Hall of Fame went with Tom Johnston, Patrick Simmons, John McFee, John Hartman, Michael Hossack, Tiran Porter, Keith Knudsen, Jeff “Skunk” Baxter, and Michael McDonald. Judas Priest have also gone through many changes, but Les Binks, K. K. Downing, Rob Halford, Ian Hill, Dave Holland, Glenn Tipton, and Scott Travis are the only ones on the ballot.

    The current Depeche Mode lineup of Dave Gahan, Martin Gore, and Andy Fletcher made the cut along with former keyboardists Vince Clark and Alan Wilder; Soundgarden’s final lineup of Matt Cameron, Chris Cornell, Ben Shepherd, and Kim Thayil is on the ballot along with original bassist Hiro Yamamoto.

    The MC5 lineup of Michael Davis, Wayne Kramer, Fred “Sonic” Smith, Dennis Thompson, and Rob Tyner was selected. Rufus featuring Chaka Khan members Dennis Belfield, Al Ciner, Andre Fischer, Chaka Khan, Tony Maiden, Nate Morgan, Kevin Murphy, Ron Stockert, and Bobby Watson all appear.

    Benatar is listed along with her husband and longtime collaborator, Neil Giraldo, and the classic Kraftwerk lineup of Ralf Hütter, Florian Schneider, Karl Bartos, and Wolfgang Flür appears without any more-recent members. Motörhead are represented by Ian “Lemmy” Kilmister, “Fast” Eddie Clarke, and Phil “Philthy Animal” Taylor, while T. Rex members Marc Bolan, Mickey Finn, Steve Currie, and Bill Legend were selected; Thin Lizzy will be represented by Phil Lynott, Brian Downey, Eric Bell, Scott Gorham, and Brian Robertson.

    This will be the first Hall of Fame induction ceremony since Rolling Stone founder Jann Wenner stepped down from his role as chairman. He was replaced by Sykes.
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  • #2
    I want Soundgarden, Nine Inch Nails, Depeche Mode and Whitney Houston to get inducted.
    Britney Spears . Michael Jackson . Madonna . Metallica . Radiohead . Led Zeppelin . Oasis . Beyoncé . Soda Stereo

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    • #3
      Two titans of black music: Kween Whitney and King Biggie I would love for both to be inducted but seeing as the hall is much more embracive of rap music than of pop/R&B, I think it’ll just be Biggie, at least for this year.
      Originally posted by Kaloki
      I don't understand why WBT still isn't at #1 tbh.

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      • #4
        Still no Outkast?

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        • #5
          The five I voted for:
          Whitney
          Pat Benatar
          Biggie
          NIN
          Soundgarden
          [MENTION=60494]UndercovaSista[/MENTION] I think this would have been Outkast's first year of eligibility? They can't be nominated until 25 years after the first record they released.

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          • #6
            As has become tradition, the Hall of Fame has announced the individual members of each band that will be inducted. The countless iterations of Nine Inch Nails, however, mean that Trent Reznor will accept the honor alone should the group get in.
            There should only be two people even considered for NIN. The only member of the act on all the recordings is Reznor but Atticus Ross became only the second ever official recording member in recent years. The other members only played live and on selected recordings.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post
              The five I voted for:
              Whitney
              Pat Benatar
              Biggie
              NIN
              Soundgarden
              [MENTION=60494]UndercovaSista[/MENTION] I think this would have been Outkast's first year of eligibility? They can't be nominated until 25 years after the first record they released.
              Their first single was released in 1993, so they are eligible since last year. Well, at least that's what Future Rock Legends says.

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              • #8
                I voted for..
                Pat Benatar
                Judas Priest
                Whitney
                Kraftwerk
                Depeche Mode

                I LOVE LOVE LOVE Biggie and Nine Inch Nails but they need to wait.
                Last edited by TIfan; Fri October 18th, 2019, 00:48.
                Diva!!!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by UndercovaSista View Post
                  Their first single was released in 1993, so they are eligible since last year. Well, at least that's what Future Rock Legends says.
                  The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame takes as "first record" and debut the first studio album the artist released not the first single and 25 years after the debut album the artist can be nominated. Outkast's first album was released in 1994 so this is indeed their first eligible year, they'll likely get nominated next year for the 2021 ceremony.
                  Britney Spears . Michael Jackson . Madonna . Metallica . Radiohead . Led Zeppelin . Oasis . Beyoncé . Soda Stereo

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                  • #10
                    Current fan vote standings:

                    113128 Votes PAT BENATAR
                    101576 Votes THE DOOBIE BROTHERS
                    100048 Votes SOUNDGARDEN
                    90093 Votes DEPECHE MODE
                    82758 Votes JUDAS PRIEST
                    78246 Votes DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
                    76839 Votes WHITNEY HOUSTON
                    75713 Votes NINE INCH NAILS
                    73209 Votes MOTORHEAD
                    68798 Votes THIN LIZZY
                    53866 Votes THE NOTORIOUS B.I.G.
                    48983 Votes TODD RUNDGREN
                    42905 Votes T. REX
                    27402 Votes KRAFTWERK
                    22378 Votes RUFUS FEATURING CHAKA KHAN
                    20869 Votes MC5

                    So sad for Kraftwerk. They keep getting nominated and should've been inducted years ago.
                    I have received many gifts from God,
                    but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                    .

                    Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                    • #11
                      I voted Whitney and T. Rex - both of which I think really deserve it, and then Biggie, Thin Lizzy and Depeche Mode to fill up my other three spots.

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                      • #12
                        I voted for:

                        Pat Benatar
                        Whitney
                        Biggie
                        Rufus & Chaka Khan
                        Depeche Mode (recently grown on me a lil)

                        Don’t care for the other wack dad rock acts.
                        Originally posted by Kaloki
                        I don't understand why WBT still isn't at #1 tbh.

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                        • #13
                          Whitney Houston

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                          • #14
                            Current radio airplay in the USA for the nominees:

                            https://radioinsight.com/ross/181173...-so-emotional/

                            Here are the 2020 nominees with a quick look at their place in radio through the years, and today. The Nielsen BDSRadio spins quoted measure all the U.S. and Canada airplay logged for a song over the past seven days. In each case, those numbers are probably inflated a little because of spins given to an act as a result of the nomination, but they still give an idea of each act’s relative presence at radio.

                            Pat Benatar – From late 1979 until 1986, a consistent and consistently good provider of radio records. To some extent, early ‘80s pop/rock is starting to fade as the late ‘80s take center stage, but thanks to “Heartbreaker,” “Hit Me With Your Best Shot,” “Love Is A Battlefield,” and “We Belong,” she’s still a regular radio presence. “Hit Me” is the airplay leader with 2,300 BDS spins this week (with Canadian spins included, it also helps that the song, written by a Canadian, is stealth Cancon).

                            Dave Matthews Band – When they emerged, rootsy pop/rock still had a presence at Alternative radio and was also a calling card for a resurgent Top 40, at least until teen pop and rhythmic pop reasserted themselves. As Alternative went through the Jewel/Tool split, DMB became a core act for the emerging Modern AC format. Now they exist in the space between formats, moving into their “modern-day Grateful Dead” status as a band whose touring base is set for the next 30 years but with less of a path at radio. Most enduring: “Crash Into Me” with 177 BDS spins.

                            Depeche Mode – In the UK, they were consistent pop hitmakers. In the U.S., they finally managed a hit with “People Are People,” then disappeared from pop radio for a while, although they were certainly a core act (along with New Order, the Cure, and the Smiths) for the Alternative radio that did exist in the mid-to-late ‘80s. Then “Violator” made them a multi-format presence for a year during that late-‘80s/early-‘90s time that is becoming a sweet spot for Classic Hits radio. “Just Can’t Get Enough” is also a song with far more American radio presence than it had as a current. Ultimately, I believe they will be remembered as a Classic Rock band in the same way the Talking Heads now are. Anywhere else in the world (especially with non-English-speaking audiences), they already are. Most played: “Enjoy the Silence,” 594 spins.

                            Doobie Brothers – Like a lot of pop/rock acts of the ‘70s, the Doobies were always a radio presence, but every song was not a pop radio smash. Their first radio streak yielded “Listen to the Music,” “Long Train Running,” “China Grove,” and “Black Water”—songs that only faded as stations moved on from the early ‘70s. In their second era, “What a Fool Believes” was never a “Carry On Wayward Son” or “Blinded by the Light,” but has enjoyed a double resurgence from the rise of “yacht rock” and the emergence of “The Breeze” stations and other Soft AC outlets. Most played: “Listen to the Music,” 562 spins.

                            Whitney Houston – Her radio heyday lasted 12-13 years and her radio career morphed often. Her second album provided her most enduring gold title (“I Wanna Dance With Somebody [Who Loves Me]”), followed up by the unflattering “Didn’t We (Almost Have It All),” which showed how good Arista was at getting No. 1 singles by sheer willpower. Then, “I Will Always Love You” and the other singles from The Bodyguard gave pop radio something to hold on to at a difficult time, and now they too are in the sweet spot, thanks to Soft AC and renewed focus on the early ‘90s. Plus she’s back on the radio thanks to the Kygo reworking of her version of “Higher Love.” (That’s also her most played song at the moment with 5,287 spins; “I Wanna Dance” has 1,379.)

                            Houston is the artist who has generated the most “not rock” grumbling since her nomination, and, as such, crystalized every debate about the nominating process and what the RRHOF should be. Personally, what I want to see at this year’s RRHOF ceremony is both Houston and Chaka Khan & Rufus inducted. For the final solo number, Khan will sing the song recorded by both artists, “I’m Every Woman,” then flip Houston’s shout-out at the fade-out to namecheck Whitney. Then the all-star jam can be a medley of “I Wanna Dance” and “Tell Me Something Good.” I’m glad we had this little talk.

                            Judas Priest – Their signature songs (“Living After Midnight,” “You’ve Got Another Thing Coming”) always had some presence at early ‘80s AOR radio, where part of their franchise was rocking even harder than Ozzy Osbourne (at the time, one of the format’s core artists). They never had the crossover hit that might have given them the growing Classic Hits/Classic Rock presence of, say, the Scorpions, but they’ve also gotten some help from the reconfiguring of some Active Rock stations as harder Classic Rock outlets. “You’ve Got Another Thing Coming” is the most-played BDS song with 434 spins.

                            Kraftwerk – Their airplay was patchy at the time. “Autobahn” was a 1975 Top 40 oddity that would exist on the same plane with “Black Superman (Muhammed Ali),” if it weren’t for what came later. (I like both, by the way.) “Trans Europe Express” and “Numbers” were the R&B hits that became part of the Hip-Hop landscape. I definitely remember “Trans Europe Express” as an odd, spectral presence on WOL Washington, D.C. in 1977. Now, it’s their most played song at radio with all of eight BDS spins.

                            MC5 – “Kick Out the Jams” went to No. 2 at Detroit’s Top 40 CKLW and WKNR, and they emerged just as progressive rock radio in Detroit was doing the same. They were never a radio band anywhere else. If anything, their footprint may be larger now because of Dave Marsh’s weekly “Kick Out the Jams” show on SiriusXM’s The Spectrum. “Kick Out the Jams” got six BDS spins this week, and I’m guessing that even those are because of the nomination itself.

                            Motorhead – Ross on Radio readers may remember individual AORs that played them. I don’t remember them having much of a U.S. radio footprint at all, even compared to Judas Priest or Iron Maiden. But “Ace of Spades” got 76 BDS spins this week. Their top two markets include hard-rock stronghold Salt Lake City and nearby Boise.

                            Nine Inch Nails – As the most mainstream distillation of industrial rock, they became an Alternative mainstay in the mid-‘90s with a signature song that, even with lyrics obscured, pushed radio’s boundaries. (I remember one prominent Alternative GM saying post-Janet Jackson/Super Bowl incident that he’d finally had to pull “Closer” because of new scrutiny.) Setting aside their recent “Old Town Road” to CHR airplay, they have a continued home both at Alternative and at an Active Rock format where ‘90s Alternative plays a prominent role. “Closer” got 546 BDS spins this week.

                            The Notorious B.I.G. – The hits from “Ready to Die” existed mostly at R&B radio, just as Hip-Hop’s presence was finally exploding at the format, and were certainly part of the excitement when WQHT (Hot 97) New York segued to Hip-Hop. When “Life After Death” came out, “Hypnotize” was a pop hit in Canada (where there was no R&B radio), but not here, because Mainstream CHR was still resisting Hip-Hop crossovers. That changed with “Mo Money Mo Problems.” Then in the mid-‘00s, his gold titles became pop-radio staples, something that lasted until the throwback Hip-Hop/R&B format emerged with him as the core artist. “Mo Money Mo Problems” is the BDS spin leader this week with 654 spins.

                            Rufus & Chaka Khan – Chaka Khan often figures into my own personal “radio should play more” calculations. Like a lot of their peers at the time, Rufus was a consistent R&B hitmaker from whom CHR cherrypicked a few titles. Their most enduring multi-format hit, “Ain’t Nobody,” came from a one-off reunion project and it is often miscredited as a Khan solo project, just as “Lady Marmalade” is often misattributed to a solo Patti Labelle. With both “Sweet Thing” and “I’m Every Woman” splitting their spins with more recent versions by Mary J. Blige and Houston respectively, “Ain’t Nobody” got 247 BDS spins this week — the most of any Rufus or Chaka solo title.

                            Todd Rundgren – Like Kraftwerk, an admired act with an extensive body of work that occasionally came into radio’s orbit, primarily with “I Saw the Light” and “Hello, It’s Me.” (Which is too bad, because “Couldn’t I Just Tell You” and “You Cried Wolf” are perfect radio singles that never got to be radio hits.) Rundgren is the kind of artist for whom satellite radio is most vital; find him on SiriusXM’s ‘70s on 7, the Bridge, the Spectrum, and others. He is now most represented at broadcast radio by 1983’s “Bang the Drum All Day” (83 spins), one of those songs that didn’t become a full-fledged hit at the time, but will linger forever at radio as long as 5 p.m. Friday rolls around.

                            Soundgarden
                            – Nirvana and Pearl Jam retain dual citizenship at Alternative and Active Rock. Alice in Chains has largely accrued to the latter, as grunge becomes a core sound there. Soundgarden has been somewhere in the middle, but “Black Hole Sun” has enough airplay between the two (and now some Classic Rock stations) to sport 1,540 BDS spins this week. Even the next track, “Spoonman,” has 654.

                            T. Rex – In England, a consistent hitmaker and great singles act whose “Hot Love” became as much of a Classic Hits staple over the years as “Bang a Gong (Get It On).” In the U.S., a one-hit wonder whose song endured as one of the most perfect radio records of all time, but hasn’t outlasted the erosion of the early ‘70s at broadcast radio. “Bang a Gong” got 310 BDS spins this week.

                            Thin Lizzy – Another perfect radio record. Another American one-hit wonder, although Metallica expanded their influence decades later by remaking “Whiskey in the Jar.” “The Boys Are Back in Town” remains a Classic Rock staple (and endures to a lesser extent at Classic Hits) with 890 spins this week. Even “Jailbreak” got 99 spins in the week of the nomination.

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                            • #15
                              I'd be curious to see updated poll numbers for this.

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                              • #16
                                Originally posted by cheapthrills View Post
                                I'd be curious to see updated poll numbers for this.
                                They update every minute or so.

                                https://vote.rockhall.com/results/
                                I have received many gifts from God,
                                but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                                .

                                Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                                • #17
                                  Originally posted by beredy View Post
                                  They update every minute or so.

                                  https://vote.rockhall.com/results/
                                  Just saw this - how frustrating that Whitney is just out of the top five. Glad to see Pat Benatar at #2, but had no idea DMB had so many fans.

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                                  • #18
                                    Breaks my heart to leave Biggie, Nine Inch Nails, Depeche Mode and T.Rex out, but from these names, I'd pick:
                                    Motörhead
                                    Thin Lizzy
                                    Soundgarden
                                    Judas Priest
                                    MC5

                                    Also I love Dave Matthews Band (although I hate the name "Name-of-the-main-man Band"), but I don't think it's act for the Hall of Fame.

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                                    • #19
                                      Pat Benatar is a huuuuuge yes from me! Those first few albums go hard.

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                                      • #20
                                        Whitney and Biggie are in! Amazing day for black music!
                                        Originally posted by Kaloki
                                        I don't understand why WBT still isn't at #1 tbh.

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                                        • #21
                                          Glad NIN and Depeche got in! Nippy too

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                                          • #22
                                            I was looking all over for this thread earlier.

                                            Love seeing Whitney in there - on her first try. Really smart of her to get Kygo to head up her campaign last year

                                            Also great to see NIN, Biggie, and Depeche Mode all in there

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