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  • spiritboy
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    Originally posted by theMathematician View Post

    No one's talking about pure sales. I'm a big fan of physical records and even I accept streams if that's what people like.
    The question is, however: Is the album really enjoying decent popularity or really just one of its singles?
    Memories was a huge hit and Beautiful Mistakes did fine. That's all. The album did okay considering they did nothing after dropping the album.

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  • theMathematician
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    Originally posted by spiritboy View Post
    When it's said and done, Jordi will have decent streams and that's all that matters in 2022. Pure sales mean nothing if you aren't Adele or Taylor.
    No one's talking about pure sales. I'm a big fan of physical records and even I accept streams if that's what people like.
    The question is, however: Is the album really enjoying decent popularity or really just one of its singles?

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  • spiritboy
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    When it's said and done, Jordi will have decent streams and that's all that matters in 2022. Pure sales mean nothing if you aren't Adele or Taylor.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Ewokguy15 View Post

    Yeah I get that but this album did have any kind of chart run cause the big song was released 1.5 years before the album came out, I'm strictly going off JORDI's run after it was released not the SPS units it accrued from previously released songs.

    It opened with 37k. . .
    Well you can do that if you want but Memories still counts for the album so it doesnt really matter.
    I guess they were banking on the song with Meghan to take off and while it did reasonably well it didnt smash in the way they needed it to to give the album really good legs. But 20 weeks on the chart is not a complete disaster either, not like they served two or four like some pop girls have done in recent years.

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  • InFamous
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    At least 50 weeks of Red pill blues can be attributed solely to Girls Like you keeping it afloat.
    All the albums that chart for massive amounts of weeks on the billboard chart are being kept there by their massive singles. Anyone can check the hits daily double postings to see just how little actual ALBUMS are selling these days. And that is the SAME in every major chart around the world. Future Nostalgia would have disappeared from the US charts a year ago if Levitating had not become the massive smash that it is.
    Last edited by InFamous; Mon January 17, 2022, 03:23.

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  • theMathematician
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    The problem with especially the Billboard 200 methodology is that it doesn't differ between 'song is popular' and 'album is popular'. In some cases, both can happen, but there are also cases when only the song is popular (the album not so much) or the album is popular (the song not so much). In the worst case, neither really seems to be popular.
    In this particular case, the song did kind of well-ish, but the album not really, which explains the chart run Ewokguy15 is referring to. In the US, it charted for 20 weeks, while their previous albums charted for 158, 84, 124, 95, 123 and 110 weeks.

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  • Ewokguy15
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    Welcome to 2020. There are a million album that you can say "only on the back of whatever song"

    I mean I could equally say that their last project only had its super impressive chart run cos of Girls like you. Before that it was ok but nowhere as big as that song elevated it after.
    Yeah I get that but this album did have any kind of chart run cause the big song was released 1.5 years before the album came out, I'm strictly going off JORDI's run after it was released not the SPS units it accrued from previously released songs.

    It opened with 37k. . .

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  • spiritboy
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    Plus when Memories wasn't the lead single for the album as they were still recording it. Still they had a good run.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Ewokguy15 View Post

    Only on the back of Memories, the actual album had an awful chart run.

    Nothing wrong with a Gold album but this project was a big step down from their previous album chart/sales wise.
    Welcome to 2020. There are a million album that you can say "only on the back of whatever song"

    I mean I could equally say that their last project only had its super impressive chart run cos of Girls like you. Before that it was ok but nowhere as big as that song elevated it after.

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  • Ewokguy15
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    Originally posted by InFamous View Post

    Well it's actually certified gold in the US. That is not bad for a band that started in the very early 00s.
    Only on the back of Memories, the actual album had an awful chart run.

    Nothing wrong with a Gold album but this project was a big step down from their previous album chart/sales wise.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by Ewokguy15 View Post

    it was a joke but still, quoting a personal chart as something being successful is… a choice.

    Jordi flopped hard for a Maroon 5 album, simple as.
    Well it's actually certified gold in the US. That is not bad for a band that started in the very early 00s.

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  • spiritboy
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    Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
    I guess you're right. It's surprising that they invited all these a-list features and still couldn't be bothered to push the album properly.
    This only shows that they love to collaborate with different artists and they don't collaborate for chart success for some people claim.

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  • Ewokguy15
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    Originally posted by stevyy View Post

    Caution is disqualified from ever making the year end chart again because I only count albums released in the years that we are currently in.

    That being said: I played Jordi 1,459 times in 2021. Caution reached 97 plays.
    it was a joke but still, quoting a personal chart as something being successful is… a choice.

    Jordi flopped hard for a Maroon 5 album, simple as.

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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
    In that case, it was a huge hit - of course.
    It was. Lost was a #1 single after all. <3

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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by Ewokguy15 View Post

    Caution was probably still #1 so you’re personal chart might not show exactly what’s actually successful in 2021.
    Caution is disqualified from ever making the year end chart again because I only count albums released in the years that we are currently in.

    That being said: I played Jordi 1,459 times in 2021. Caution reached 97 plays.

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  • Ewokguy15
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    Originally posted by stevyy View Post

    i don't understand your assessment of this era. It was the 10th biggest album of 2021 on my personal chart.
    Caution was probably still #1 so you’re personal chart might not show exactly what’s actually successful in 2021.

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  • theMathematician
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    In that case, it was a huge hit - of course.

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  • stevyy
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    Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
    They could save the last era with 'Girls Like You', but this era didn't really happen, did it?
    i don't understand your assessment of this era. It was the 10th biggest album of 2021 on my personal chart.

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  • InFamous
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    Originally posted by spiritboy View Post

    They dropped the album and left it to die, they don't care about this i guess.
    Convince me otherwize deserved to be a single. I though BM performed well but i dont think anything else was really going to take off, although you never know with them. Look at Memories !

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  • theMathematician
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    I guess you're right. It's surprising that they invited all these a-list features and still couldn't be bothered to push the album properly.

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  • spiritboy
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    Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
    They could save the last era with 'Girls Like You', but this era didn't really happen, did it?
    They dropped the album and left it to die, they don't care about this i guess.

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  • spiritboy
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    Originally posted by Benjamin View Post
    'Lovesick' has been released to Italian radio as the next single, two weeks ago.
    Nice choice.

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  • theMathematician
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    They could save the last era with 'Girls Like You', but this era didn't really happen, did it?

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  • Benjamin
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    'Lovesick' has been released to Italian radio as the next single, two weeks ago.

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  • spiritboy
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    Originally posted by spiritboy View Post
    As a M5 stan, i'm hugely disappointed with this album.
    Taking an L and say this is a great album.

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