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  • #51
    I can't wait to hear SN TV!

    Ps. I only listen to RED TV and Fearless TV.
    Haven't been early since '88

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    • #52
      Originally posted by JeremySpears View Post
      The announcement post is already Taylor's most-liked album announcement post ever on Instagram omg
      Now Taylor's most-liked post ever with over 9.5 million likes.
      Britney Spears • Selena Gomez • Taylor Swift • Janet Jackson • • Michael Jackson • • Hilary Duff • Christina Aguilera •

      "If I’m generally anything, I guess I’m generally miserable" - Marylin Monroe

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      • #53
        The Taylor's Versions of the entire Fearless album are better than the original tracks IMO.

        However, some version of Red (Taylor's Version) sound a bit flat compared to the originals: 22, I Knew You Were Trouble, Red and unfortunately Begin Again (which is my fav Taylor song) are better in their original version IMO.

        But the majority of the tracks are better than the original ones: especially All Too Well (Taylor's Version), The Moment I Knew (Taylor's Version), Stay Stay Stay (Taylor's Version) and The Last Time (Taylor's Version).


        But I've already bought the stolen versions on CD before the fiasco, so I don't mind listening to them on CD. But I won't stream the stolen versions. I only stream Taylor's Version.

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        • #54
          I never listened to Fearless or Red originals so it was a good chance for me to discover her back catalogue. I really loved Red but her country sound isn’t particularly for me.

          Ill definitely be checking this out but I’m not sure 20+ country songs will really do it for me!
          You say that I must eat so many lemons, cos I am so Bitt-er

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          • #55
            I never saw Speak Now as particulary country. Apart from Mean, it always felt rather pop rock-leaning to me.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by theMathematician View Post
              I never saw Speak Now as particulary country. Apart from Mean, it always felt rather pop rock-leaning to me.
              Same. It's not very country.
              Haven't been early since '88

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              • #57
                I guess she was just never on my radar then and I erongly
                presumed it was country. Looking forward to it even more now
                You say that I must eat so many lemons, cos I am so Bitt-er

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by westhammer View Post
                  I never listened to Fearless or Red originals so it was a good chance for me to discover her back catalogue. I really loved Red but her country sound isn’t particularly for me.

                  I’ll definitely be checking this out but I’m not sure 20+ country songs will really do it for me!
                  I was the same - aside from ‘Look What You Made Me Do’ Taylor wasn’t necessarily on my radar (even though I saw her live in 2015). All Too Well (10m) drew me in and made me listen to Red (which I loved) and then I moved onto Fearless (which I enjoy, but is a sad album).

                  If Speak Now is a hybrid of both albums I think there’ll be a lot to enjoy (I haven’t heard the original). Then I might move onto her newer albums. I haven’t even bothered streaming one song from Midnight yet. I’m not in a rush, though Taylor clearly is with her release schedule
                  I have a bad feeling about this.

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                  • #59
                    I feel like Taylor began to broaden her palette as both a songwriter and with genres with Speak Now. She didn't alienate her country audience with it, but it had more ambitious pop melodies, and alongside digging deeper into pop/rock, she also tried experimenting with pop-punk on 'Better Than Revenge'; 'Story of Us' has a little of this too, whilst 'Haunted' reminds me of a combination of Kelly Clarkson's darker material and Amy Lee from Evanescence. I'd say that she did stay true to her country roots, but she started branching out, and I feel that many people who have yet to discover Speak Now will be surprised.

                    For the most part, the songwriting on the album is extraordinary; the fact that she wrote it herself, and at such a young age, is an achievement that Taylor should rightfully be proud of. She moved further away from teenage dreams and insecurities and set her sights on more mature, cinematic songwriting; I feel that the subject matter of her songwriting also began to broaden, such as in her dealing with John Mayer's manipulation on 'Dear John' or navigating adolescence on 'Never Grow Up'.

                    It's a demanding album and I think it packs quite a punch, especially since there are some nice, long songs on it; I hope she hasn't gotten rid of the layered instrumental breaks and cut portions of songs just to appease people in the streaming era, and I doubt she will have. Still, I think those who jumped on board the Taylor train in her pop era might find that she had much more in her during this earlier phase of her career.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by luckyONE View Post
                      The Taylor's Versions of the entire Fearless album are better than the original tracks IMO.

                      However, some version of Red (Taylor's Version) sound a bit flat compared to the originals: 22, I Knew You Were Trouble, Red and unfortunately Begin Again (which is my fav Taylor song) are better in their original version IMO.

                      But the majority of the tracks are better than the original ones: especially All Too Well (Taylor's Version), The Moment I Knew (Taylor's Version), Stay Stay Stay (Taylor's Version) and The Last Time (Taylor's Version).


                      But I've already bought the stolen versions on CD before the fiasco, so I don't mind listening to them on CD. But I won't stream the stolen versions. I only stream Taylor's Version.
                      THIS, I didn't liked the new production on the ''poppy'' songs and Begin Again was a letdown :/

                      CANNOT WAIT TO HEAR SPARKS FLY, THE STORY OF US AND BACK TO DECEMBER!

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                      • #61
                        So her store doesn't ship to Switzerland

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                        • #62
                          Everybody's talking about whether she will keep Better Than Revenge problematic, but nobody's mentioning this lyric in Innocent, which is about Kanye West:

                          It's okay, life is a tough crowd
                          32 and still growing up now

                          His birthday is on 8 June. Do you think she will change it to this?

                          It's okay, life is a tough crowd
                          46 and still growing up now

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                          • #63
                            I was going to say about better than revenge & if she will change it.
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                            • #64
                              Originally posted by Yoshie View Post
                              Everybody's talking about whether she will keep Better Than Revenge problematic
                              What's problematic about it?

                              -----

                              Adam Young (Owl City) and Taylor Swift meet.
                              Taylor Swift: It was enchanting to meet you.
                              Adam Young: It was enchanting to meet you, too.
                              The end.

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                              • #65
                                Originally posted by theMathematician View Post

                                What's problematic about it?

                                -----

                                Adam Young (Owl City) and Taylor Swift meet.
                                Taylor Swift: It was enchanting to meet you.
                                Adam Young: It was enchanting to meet you, too.
                                The end.

                                Some people accused her of ''s1utshaming''

                                ''She's not a saint and she's not what you think
                                She's an actress, whoa
                                She's better known for the things that she does
                                On the mattress, whoa''

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                                • #66
                                  Originally posted by theMathematician View Post

                                  What's problematic about it?

                                  -----

                                  Adam Young (Owl City) and Taylor Swift meet.
                                  Taylor Swift: It was enchanting to meet you.
                                  Adam Young: It was enchanting to meet you, too.
                                  The end.
                                  That's 'Enchanted', not 'Better Than Revenge'.

                                  'Better Than Revenge' has this lyric:

                                  She's better known for the things that she does on the mattress

                                  This has been considered by Swifties as slut shaming and has been considered anti-feminist. By extension, they have thought that the vibe of the song pits two women against each other, but I think that this is just a hypersensitive reaction in the wake of the anti-feminist movements (which, I'd like to clarify, I think are fantastic and serve a purpose). 'Better Than Revenge' is simply a silly, petty moment in an otherwise graceful album in which a twenty year old Swift expresses a moment of faux-rage towards another woman for stealing her boyfriend. All women of this age -- and perhaps some beyond it -- have felt this way at some point, and I know that men and non-binary people have, too. I'd say she should keep it problematic because I think it's realistic, plus I find that lyric pretty funny anyway.

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                                  • #67
                                    Originally posted by Yoshie View Post

                                    That's 'Enchanted', not 'Better Than Revenge'.

                                    'Better Than Revenge' has this lyric:

                                    She's better known for the things that she does on the mattress

                                    This has been considered by Swifties as slut shaming and has been considered anti-feminist. By extension, they have thought that the vibe of the song pits two women against each other, but I think that this is just a hypersensitive reaction in the wake of the anti-feminist movements (which, I'd like to clarify, I think are fantastic and serve a purpose). 'Better Than Revenge' is simply a silly, petty moment in an otherwise graceful album in which a twenty year old Swift expresses a moment of faux-rage towards another woman for stealing her boyfriend. All women of this age -- and perhaps some beyond it -- have felt this way at some point, and I know that men and non-binary people have, too. I'd say she should keep it problematic because I think it's realistic, plus I find that lyric pretty funny anyway.

                                    I agree. I think it's a funny shade. Don't see it as some life-ruining, career ending thing as some pretend it to be.

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                                    • #68
                                      She already kind of disowned the song a few years ago considering it an immature take due to her being 18 at the time, didnīt she? Changing it would be the most logical thing.
                                      Beauty is beauty, whether is black or white

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                                      • #69
                                        I don't see a problem in that line.

                                        By using '-----', I highlighted that I wanted to make two points that are not connected to another.

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                                        • #70
                                          Originally posted by Beautyisbeauty View Post
                                          She already kind of disowned the song a few years ago considering it an immature take due to her being 18 at the time, didnīt she? Changing it would be the most logical thing.

                                          She's still singing Picture to Burn and you could argue it's ''offensive'' so I don't see why she should ditch BTR

                                          ''I hate that stupid old pickup truck you never let me drive
                                          You're a redneck heartbreak who's really bad at lying
                                          So watch me strike a match on all my wasted time
                                          As far as I'm concerned, you're just another picture to burn''

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                                          • #71
                                            While yes, it is a derrogatory term directed towards a specific demographic, it is socially considered a rather 'weak' derrogatory term, hence one that you can use in certain situations, comparable to e.g. 'douchebag'.
                                            Additionally, it is considered a term society accepts if used within your own demographic, just like there are swear words that are OK if used by black or homosexual people.
                                            Last edited by theMathematician; Sat May 13, 2023, 19:56.

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                                            • #72
                                              Karen Swifties always doing the most and Taylor haters exaggerate every little thing. Better Than Revenge is popular among the fandom (streams reflect this) and hopefully she doesn't change it
                                              Last edited by CorneliaStreet; Sat May 13, 2023, 21:11.

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                                              • #73
                                                I'd be very disappointed if she changed the lyrics. It reflected her feelings at the time, and those are valid. Let it be and stop being offended at everything
                                                Last edited by mykka; Sun May 14, 2023, 03:02.

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                                                • #74
                                                  Has Katy stopped performing ur so gay? Cause that’s viewed as being more problematic than BTR I think.
                                                  Britney, X-tina, Lana, Janet, Spice Girls, Kylie, Dannii

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                                                  • #75

                                                    thank you RS
                                                    Britney Spears • Selena Gomez • Taylor Swift • Janet Jackson • • Michael Jackson • • Hilary Duff • Christina Aguilera •

                                                    "If I’m generally anything, I guess I’m generally miserable" - Marylin Monroe

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