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  • The demo version of Goodbye to Innocence is so much stronger than the final version. Up and Down Suite, which is an instrumental dub based on the final recording, is fabulous, though.

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    • Originally posted by Yoshie
      A fantastic retrospective thread at MadonnaNation forums:

      http://forums.madonnanation.com/index.p ... rotica25/&
      This thread is slaying my life. The Erotica era is her most exciting, most provocative and all around best era in every way.

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      • Essential Albums: Madonna – Erotica

        Madonna's 1992 visual album represents a landmark in queer and feminist pop music, argues News Editor Gregory Robinson

        1992 was a pivotal year for pop music icon Madonna. Two years after the release of her international smash hit ‘Vogue’, which bought underground gay ballroom culture from the streets of New York to the rest of the world. And a year after the release of the The Immaculate Collection, the highest selling compilation by a solo artist, Madonna’s career was on a constant upswing both creatively and commercially.

        As the world’s favourite provocateur entered the second phase of her career, her fame grew, her artistry matured and the themes of sexuality and religion, which have deep roots within Madonna’s career tracing all the way back to 1984’s ‘Like A Virgin’, pushed ‘Deeper and Deeper’ into territory never before explored by a mainstream pop star. As you can imagine, the world was very different in 1992. Even I, who was not even alive during one of music’s most pivotal eras, can understand that a female artist breaching the boundaries of sex and religion would be unthinkable for many people.

        Leading up to the release of Madonna’s fifth studio album Erotica, signs of Madonna’s incessant need to rebel were laid bare. From ‘Like A Prayer’s’ burning crosses, black Jesus starring in the video to the theatrical Blond Ambition Tour of 1990, and the film Truth or Dare, that documented the tour, the world should have forecast Madonna’s next creative adventure to make seismic waves in the world of pop culture. They did not.

        On 20th October 1992, Madonna released her visual-concept album Erotica simultaneously with Sex, a coffee table book containing explicit images of the singer shot by fashion photographers Steven Meisel and Fabien Baron. The visual album was met with stagnant reviews from critics whilst contemporary fans, many of whom identified as part of the LGBT community, celebrated the project.

        The year 1992 not only marked a year of animosity from Madonna’s critics but also an era of suffering for the LGBT community as a result of the AIDS epidemic. Madonna has always been an outspoken advocate for the LGBT community, especially during the height of the AIDS epidemic. In a similar fashion to the safe sex pamphlet inserted into copies of her Like A Prayer album in 1989, Madonna used Erotica as a platform to discuss safe sex to the point of the Sex book being packaged in a condom inspired wrapper. The album’s final ballad ‘In This Life’ pays tribute to two of Madonna’s close friends who died of AIDS. ‘He was only twenty three / Gone before he had his time / It came without a warning / Didn't want his friends to see him cry / He knew the day was dawning / And I didn't have a chance to say goodbye’ she croons on the sorrowful eulogy. ‘In This Life’, much like the chart topping single ‘This Used To Be My Playground’, released three months before Erotica, shows Madonna’s emotional fragility.

        It may come as a surprise to discover that Erotica is not the grossly carnal sex album you may expect. The album’s tracks range from deeply personal anecdotes: ‘In This Life’, ‘Rain’, ‘Secret Garden’ to disco bops: ‘Deeper and Deeper’, ‘Fever’ and gritty New Jack Swing confessions: ‘Bye Bye Baby’, ‘Where Life Begins’, ‘Thief of Hearts’ to a dancehall tinged call for world peace: ‘Why’s It So Hard?’.

        Madonna crafted the album’s unique combinations of sounds with her co-producer and co-writer Shep Pettibone, who had previously remixed several of Madonna’s 1980s hits by turning them into modern 1990s house anthems. He also and produced ‘Vogue’. Pettibone kept a diary detailing his studio sessions with Madonna, with the first entry dated November 1991. According to Pettibone, Madonna wanted the album to sound raw ‘as if it were recorded in an alley at 123rd Street in Harlem.’ As a result, the album’s blend of hip-hop, jazz, New Jack Swing, funk, disco and house are sprinkled throughout the record and give it an authentic, cinematic quality which could overlay a picturesque scene of New York’s bourgeoisie and the rebels of the clubs and ballrooms.

        The title track, lead single and album opener ‘Erotica’ is narrated by Madonna’s alter ego Dita. ‘If I take you from behind / push myself into your mind / when you least expect it… / will you try to reject it?’ is a playful reference to Madonna’s relationship with her critics. The song is somewhat of a companion to ‘Justify My Love’ which, like ‘Erotica’, has spoken word verses which are also utilised on the album’s jazzy closing track ‘Secret Garden’.

        The rest of the album unfolds much like a journal in which Madonna reflects on her past relationships and lovers in the hip-hop tinged ‘Bye Bye Baby’, ‘Waiting’ and ‘Words’. ‘Bad Girl’ tells the fateful story of a drunken, chain smoking woman whose bingeing cannot stop her feel dissatisfied with her relationship with an unknown male. The high concept music video, directed by David Fincher stars Christopher Walken as Madonna’s character’s guardian angel.

        Not only is Erotica filled with sorrow, it also explores sensuality. ‘Where Life Begins’ is a hip-hop slow jam in which Madonna cheekily celebrates cunnilingus. Though she has never been regarded as a powerhouse vocalist, Madonna’s crystal clear vocals carry ‘Rain’s’ trip hop melody to extraordinary highs and at some moments, evoke Karen Carpenter. The songs turbocharged middle-eight section seamlessly leads into Madonna’s dual recital of lines through both right and left channels, further showing Pettibone’s exquisite production and Madonna’s keen ear for a catchy melody. The ‘Vogue’ sampling ‘Deeper and Deeper’ is the album’s most gleeful song takes listeners back to the disco era, as Madonna takes on the persona of a young man coming out. She declares ‘This feeling inside, I can't explain / But my love is alive, and I'm never gonna hide it again’ over a nineties house beat before leading into a flamenco guitar breakdown. The surrealistic visual pays tribute to the work of Andy Warhol and 1970s disco culture.

        Despite the lyrical and musical strength of Erotica’s songs, the album, and its singles were considered flops in comparison to blockbuster eighties hits ‘Material Girl’ and ‘Papa Don’t Preach.’ Erotica was Madonna’s first album not to top the Billboard 200 albums chart and sold “only” 6 million copies worldwide. For contemporary critics, the hits were not big enough and in their eyes, the world’s biggest pop star was unable to back up her ‘gimmicks’ with sales receipts. The Erotica era became the perfect time for the society, both men and women, to crucify the woman who defied everything in the unwritten rule book of pop.

        When I first became a Madonna fan around six years ago, it became clear that Erotica and the Sex book were seen as blemishes in Madonna’s otherwise smash hit filled career. Even from a modern perspective, in which every female pop star has used elements of the Madonna Blueprint, the album and its visuals maintained their astonishing impact. Erotica is an essential album because it is incredibly bold – both for 1992 and a quarter of a century later. Madonna’s fight for the free expression of sex, religion and romance for all is interwoven throughout her work and is most prominent during the Erotica era. Erotica’s legacy has birthed Beyonce’s visual album Lemonade, and has inspired the today’s biggest pop divas; Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Rihanna, Ariana Grande, Katy Perry, Pink, Christina Aguilera and Nicki Minaj et al.

        Erotica is an unconventional ode to feminism and homosexuality before these concepts became popular trending topics. This is one of the many reasons why the album was listed by the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame in August 2017 as one of the most revolutionary albums of all time. ‘...few women artists, before or since Erotica, have been so outspoken about their fantasies and desires. Madonna made it clear that shame and sexuality are mutually exclusive. In the end, Erotica embraced and espoused pleasure, and kept Madonna at the forefront of pop's sexual revolution.’ It is safe to say that no one will ever be able to top Erotica.
        http://www.redbrick.me/music/slider-mus ... a-erotica/

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        • Shame metacritic is not collecting all these reviews.

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          • Re: Madonna | Erotica

            I never got the appeal. Melodic Madonna is the best Madonna.
            Originally posted by Kaloki
            I don't understand why WBT still isn't at #1 tbh.

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            • Originally posted by RayRay
              Originally posted by Erotica
              Words is the best non-single on the album anyway
              I prefered Thief Of Hearts. And now I would say I prefer Why's It So Hard.
              I agree.

              And Waiting! It's perfect.

              More info:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erotica_(Madonna_album)

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              • I've been listening "Erotica" today , my current ranking of the songs:

                Erotica >> Rain >> Thief Of Hearts >> Deeper And Deeper >> Words >> Bad Girl >> Why's It So Hard >> In This Life >> Waiting >> Bye Bye Baby >> Where Life Begins >> Secret Garden >> Fever >> Did You Do It?
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                • Re: Madonna | Erotica

                  Mine is:

                  1. Rain
                  2. Words
                  3. Where Life Begins
                  4. Bad Girl
                  5. Why's It So Hard
                  6. Secret Garden
                  7. Fever
                  8. Thief Of Hearts
                  9. Erotica
                  10. Waiting
                  11. Bye Bye Baby
                  12. Deeper and Deeper
                  13. Did You Do It
                  14. In This Life
                  Floped and localed

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                  • "Rain" is one of her best, it's so underrated!

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                    • I heard Rain on Sirius/XM yesterday.

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                      • Re: Madonna | Erotica

                        The line "i'm not a bitch, i'm a love technician" is so iconic
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                        • 1. Rain
                          2. Deeper And Deeper
                          3. Where Life Begins
                          4. Why's It So Hard
                          5. Erotica
                          6. Bad Girl
                          7. Fever
                          8. Thief Of Hearts
                          9. Words
                          10. Bye Bye Baby
                          11. In This Life
                          12. Secret Garden
                          13. Waiting
                          14. Did You Do It
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                          • Finally got this on vinyl

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                            • One of her best! Such an underrated, iconic and experimental album.
                              Britney Spears • Janet Jackson • Christina Aguilera • Michael Jackson • Selena Gomez • Hilary Duff • Taylor Swift • Justin Timberlake

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                              • Originally posted by spiritboy
                                The line "i'm not a bitch, i'm a love technician" is so iconic

                                It is, but that line doesn’t feature on this album
                                M08T10

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                                • She says 'I'm not a witch' and not 'bitch' tho
                                  "Slow Down ,Papi"
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                                  • Originally posted by spiritboy
                                    The line "i'm not a bitch, i'm a love technician" is so iconic
                                    What?
                                    "Complaining is an advertisement for stupidity"

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                                    • Tumbleweed.

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                                      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro1dMPiXu0Y

                                        She reviewed the album on its anniversary. Expecting her to hate it to be truthful.

                                        Happy Anniversary to this masterpiece. The most exciting, thrilling era of her career, although Ray of Light pips it slightly in quality.

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                                        • Happy Birthday Erotica <3

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                                          • This is the first Madonna album I ever bought with my own money, having previously acquired True Blue and a 45 of "Who's That Girl?" as gifts. At the time, I generally enjoyed the bass-heavy house and hip-hop vibes, but now I enjoy the details (peep the metallic, jangling-chains percussion on the title track) and sundry samples (Kool and the Gang! Fairuz! Clacking typewriters! Broken glass! Gershwin!) tucked into the soundscapes. Still a enticing and rewarding listen all these years later
                                            The sands of time fade into dark
                                            Feel your pulse it's groove o'clock
                                            A message to madness
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                                            • One of her finest records.


                                              Happy B day!


                                              My ranking (I love every single track, though):

                                              1. Bad Girl
                                              2. Thief Of Hearts
                                              3. Why's It So Hard
                                              4. Erotica
                                              5. Bye Bye Baby
                                              6. Rain
                                              7. Words
                                              8. Deeper And Deeper
                                              9. In This Life
                                              10. Waiting
                                              11. Fever
                                              12. Where Life Begins
                                              13. Secret Garden
                                              Haven't been early since '88

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                                              • This album is the definition of iconic.

                                                My third favorite album of hers. I love that she gave literally zero f*cks and changed her sound completely. The lyrics on this album and the visuals are outstanding as well. Legendary.

                                                "Bye Bye Baby" is an underrated bop by the way.
                                                Britney Spears • Janet Jackson • Christina Aguilera • Michael Jackson • Selena Gomez • Hilary Duff • Taylor Swift • Justin Timberlake

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                                                • >>>>>>>>>>>>>

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