Katy Perry - Las Vegas Residency 2021-22

[Piethro]

[Piethro]

[Forreal]

Curious to see the gross

[nympho]

Piethro

I guess these numbers are obviously not coming from any official source like Billboard or Pollstar… they’re simply numbers calculated by fans Twitter accounts counting the empty seats available themselves, right?

If that’s the case, please don’t post it here as it can totally confuse other users.

Most importantly, we’ll see it later once the official figures are published but they seem to be really off. Maybe the number of remaining tickets each night is indeed correct… but definitely not the total available (and thus the number of tickets sold).

To begin with, the venue’s total seats for her show on AXS website is 4,681 (as posted here time ago). Not 4,700.
On the 1st January 2022 show she had 4,407 attendees, and that is the biggest crowd of her residency so far for any of her shows.
The last leg had an average of 3,574 attendees per night out of 4,173 tickets available. (28,596 (85.66%), 8 shows). And I could go on with all the previous legs.

So… you say that now these three shows suddenly have 4,700 tickets available every night for the first time ever in the Residency? Maybe… but I really doubt it. Assuming that when you see a seat not available in the map it’s because it’s sold… is not correct, as maybe many of those seats were never on sale in the 1st place.

Maybe it really is that way… but it would be just speculating.
So, until the official boxscores are published once this leg is finished, please avoid posting these tweets which make their own calculations as legit and real numbers. Thank you.

[Piethro]

Piethro

The funniest thing is that you publish these fan estimates in Gaga's thread

[nympho]

The funniest thing is that you publish these fan estimates in Gaga's thread

Oh, really? Did I? Where?

Because, actually, the only person that shared a tweet about availability and tickets sold on her residency thread was YOU.

https://www.ukmix.org/forum/music/to...5#post10721725

Trying to troll. And it backfired.


I only copy/pasted fans estimations once on the Chromatica Ball thread, clearly stating that those were estimations posted on Gagadaily forum. And for future dates.
Not posting info from her most recent concerts as if those were official boxscores figures. As that Twitter account did and you posted here.
So, again, if you want to share fans estimations of the tickets sold and available, even if they're wrong, do it...
But make it clear those are not official boxscore figures.

[zagan0401]

it's so sad to see our biggest divas singing for 100/200 dollars to such a small audience

[Piethro]

[Forreal]

it's so sad to see our biggest divas singing for 100/200 dollars to such a small audience

Vegas residency can really get the artist BIG money instead…….. Celine , look at her .

[Forreal]

Starting with a bang…. Well done

[zagan0401]

Vegas residency can really get the artist BIG money instead…….. Celine , look at her .

with a vocal hemorrhage after 1200 shows

anyway, just makes sense for Adele, who collects between $600 and $1,500 per person.

[Forreal]

Wasn’t aware Adele charged that much

Katy is more affordable, her gross will be ok regardless I suppose

[zagan0401]

Wasn’t aware Adele charged that much

Katy is more affordable, her gross will be ok regardless I suppose

yeah, probably 41/48 M (70 shows).

[Forreal]

yeah, probably 41/48 M (70 shows).

Ok …. On the paper it doesn’t look that great. But let’s consider residency got cost production reduced to minimum compared to a proper tour, and besides that it is mentally and physically less stressful for the artist avoiding travels etc …

[Wayne]

with a vocal hemorrhage after 1200 shows

anyway, just makes sense for Adele, who collects between $600 and $1,500 per person.

Just for the record, Adele doesn't charge that much - her top tier tickets (of which there are relatively much fewer) might be priced at that level but I expect we'll see an average ticket price of between $200-$300 when her first boxscores are released (which is still an astronomical number - and anything north of $300 would give her the highest average ticket price of the modern era in Vegas, 2003 onwards).

[zagan0401]

Just for the record, Adele doesn't charge that much - her top tier tickets (of which there are relatively much fewer) might be priced at that level but I expect we'll see an average ticket price of between $200-$300 when her first boxscores are released (which is still an astronomical number - and anything north of $300 would give her the highest average ticket price of the modern era in Vegas, 2003 onwards).

all we know so far is that prices have been astronomical, though decadent over time

Dave Clark from Ticket News

Fans were also upset about the aggressive ticket pricing for the shows, which had a tiny fraction of the available tickets priced at $100 for the most remote sections of the venue, with everything else priced well into the $1-5,000 range from the box office using “platinum” dynamic surge ticket pricing systems from Ticketmaster. The same happened when the shows were rescheduled in the summer of 2022. [...]
[...] With the second batch of shows set to begin on week from today, ticket prices are still high, but much less so than they had been according to anther ticket resale marketplace, ScoreBig. Tickets to the January 20 Weekends with Adele show start as low as $822, while tickets in the 100 level close to the stage can be had for as low as $1,815

on reseller and discount sites, I didn't find prices less than $500 yesterday (400 level)

I'm expecting an average of $500 (at least).

[zagan0401]

the price of tickets at the Hyde Park concert ranged from 92 to 595 euros, but obtained an audience of 65k per night

[InFamous]

Piethro

I guess these numbers are obviously not coming from any official source like Billboard or Pollstar… they’re simply numbers calculated by fans Twitter accounts counting the empty seats available themselves, right?

If that’s the case, please don’t post it here as it can totally confuse other users.

So, until the official boxscores are published once this leg is finished, please avoid posting these tweets which make their own calculations as legit and real numbers. Thank you.

People post stan twitter tweets with speculated numbers in many many threads, and especially in the CA section. But you only have an issue with them here. Everyone knows the stan tweets are not 100 percent reliable so no one is confused but you shouldnt ask one person to not post them in one specific thread when they are posted all over the site. That is like asking someone like Stevvy to not post his estimations for album sales until a RIAA certification is officially released. Wayne Can we get an administrator view on this please, because it seems very strange. There was also no indication that they were "official numbers" Thanks.

[nympho]

In fact, no, this is not the only place where I’ve asked people to not post stan Twitter info which is unsourced and, most of the time, incorrect. I’ve said it several times this past week because some users posting whatever they see on Twitter is becoming an issue. And, yes, many other uses believe that info is legit.
Users have always posted their own estimations and that’s totally fine… as long as the info is not posted pretending to be official and coming from a reliable source.
When it comes to boxscores, we’ve always used Billboard, Pollstar or info from TouringData as we know he has a subscription to Pollstar.
What part of this Tweet says “fan estimations”?

[InFamous]

It's from twitter. Obviously it's not official.

[nympho]

It's from twitter. Obviously it's not official.

A tweet from a fan account posting daily Spotify numbers or a ranking of artists by monthly listeners etc is not official. Not coming from any official account. But the numbers are. And can be easily checked.
A Twitter account posting boxscores numbers previously announced by Billboard or Pollstar is not an official source. But the numbers are and they can be checked easily on the original source.

So, please, enough. You perfectly know the difference between something real posted on Twitter and fans made up numbers.

The rules are clear. Please, DO NOT post boxscore figures unless the figures originally come from Pollstar or Billboard.
And, in case you want to post fans made up numbers or calculations based on the available seats, clearly specify it. And don’t make others believe that data is official.

[Piethro]

[Piethro]

[Forreal]

^ well done Katy

congrats

[InFamous]

93.46 percent average attendance.
Excellent.
And also confirms that twitter account was being very accurate in their "estimations" as it is likely the first one or two shows had the best attendances.
Great to see the numbers ALL going up from Leg 5

All the bitter stans of others under this tweet are honestly tragic.