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  • I guess I will buy this as she decided to cancel my show last minute

    At least if she was nice, all the people who couldn't attend the concert because of her canceling it, should get a free copy of this!

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    • Paris numbers finally revealed:
      Attendance: 22,400 / 22,400. Gross: $6,124,248.

      Total Tour attendance:180,770 (100%)
      Total Gross: $52,332,046.

      Great numbers!

      Source: wikipedia.
      If you're gonna act like a bitch, then you're gonna die like a bitch!

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      • Wikipedia isnt a source. Is there a link to an official source in wikipedia?

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        • Originally posted by Angeman View Post
          Wikipedia isnt a source. Is there a link to an official source in wikipedia?
          No. I'd also like to know where the number comes from.
          I have received many gifts from God,
          but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
          .

          Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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          • Que interesante, me encanta

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            • Numbers look about right for Paris. 765,000$ per night.

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              • It's finally here. The final numbers for the "Madame X Tour".

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                • Legendary.

                  Thank you! Bring in the live released. I pray we don’t get messy editing.

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                  • Awesome! $50m for a theater tour is great! And great ticket average price.
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                    I have received many gifts from God,
                    but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                    .

                    Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                    • Great number for a extremely limited itinerary and tiny theater tour.
                      Madonna is the queen of pop and the biggest selling female music artist of all time!

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                      • I’m surprised at the average ticket price actually, it’s much lower than the standard, non-VIP ticket price at all shows. Some serious discounting clearly happened.
                        “I shouldn’t be in a conservatorship if I can work and provide money and work for myself and pay other people — it makes no sense”

                        #FreeBritney

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                        • Originally posted by menime123 View Post
                          I’m surprised at the average ticket price actually, it’s much lower than the standard, non-VIP ticket price at all shows. Some serious discounting clearly happened.
                          ? No? Fan presale tickets were much lower priced than tickets that were released to general public later on. Mine was €160 euro and that wasn't even the cheapest ticket.
                          I have received many gifts from God,
                          but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                          .

                          Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                          • Originally posted by beredy View Post

                            ? No? Fan presale tickets were much lower priced than tickets that were released to general public later on. Mine was €160 euro and that wasn't even the cheapest ticket.
                            The fan presale (which I assume you mean her ICON fan club and not the verified fan thing) were all the same price - fans just had access to some of the lower priced seats in some areas of the theatre.

                            Her standard US top tier, non-VIP and non-package ticket price was $750. In the UK it was 500 (which is what I paid). Obviously not every ticket was this price but when they went on sale initially the majority of tickets were higher than the average gross.

                            It’s no secret she struggled to shift tickets to some of the shows with more dates. Her official website were selling tickets that hadn’t sold for $10 if you sent them a selfie as part of the announced ticket lottery - and for more tickets than the originally announced 10 per show.

                            In fact her website sent emails out the day of the shows asking people to take part if they would be around that night.

                            Obviously none of this detracts from how good the show itself was, nor the gross - overall the gross is impressive.
                            “I shouldn’t be in a conservatorship if I can work and provide money and work for myself and pay other people — it makes no sense”

                            #FreeBritney

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                            • Ugh what a shame this article had to bring up Madonna to make a point. Even if somewhat true. shady and unnecessary.

                              Will Gompertz reviews Beverley Knight's socially distanced London Palladium show

                              https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53502913
                              A sure way to lose happiness, I found, is to want it at the expense of everything else. - Bette Davis

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                              • Angeman
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                                Basically hes saying the show was bad because she had a knee injury... oh please. Her vocals were excellent on the slow songs. Especially Frozen. Yes she had backing track but you could hear live voice very well.

                            • Originally posted by menime123 View Post
                              I’m surprised at the average ticket price actually, it’s much lower than the standard, non-VIP ticket price at all shows. Some serious discounting clearly happened.
                              Wrong. Arthur Fogel confirmed at the start of the tour that the average first market ticket price was, and would end up, around $300. It did.

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                              • Originally posted by madfan13 View Post
                                Ugh what a shame this article had to bring up Madonna to make a point. Even if somewhat true. shady and unnecessary.

                                Will Gompertz reviews Beverley Knight's socially distanced London Palladium show

                                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-53502913
                                Also the first reviewer with a negative comment about Madonna's vocals on the tour.

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                                • Originally posted by PDC717 View Post

                                  Wrong. Arthur Fogel confirmed at the start of the tour that the average first market ticket price was, and would end up, around $300. It did.
                                  I’m not wrong, please see my earlier post. Plus I posted the ticket prices on page 2):

                                  Medellin VIP
                                  $1,995.00
                                  Crave VIP
                                  $1,350.00
                                  Come Alive VIP
                                  $995.00
                                  Dark Ballet VIP
                                  $750.00
                                  Seating Area 1
                                  $759.00
                                  Seating Area 2
                                  $509.00
                                  Seating Area 3
                                  $359.00
                                  Seating Area 4
                                  $259.00
                                  Seating Area 5
                                  $134.00
                                  Seating Area 6
                                  $97.00
                                  Seating Area 7
                                  $52.00

                                  Based on the ticket prices, very surprised he average wasn’t higher - the majority of seats were not $259 or less.
                                  “I shouldn’t be in a conservatorship if I can work and provide money and work for myself and pay other people — it makes no sense”

                                  #FreeBritney

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                                  • Angeman
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                                    I wouldnt fight with him. He was banned at Madonnanation for being crazy.

                                • Originally posted by menime123 View Post

                                  I’m not wrong, please see my earlier post. Plus I posted the ticket prices on page 2):

                                  Medellin VIP
                                  $1,995.00
                                  Crave VIP
                                  $1,350.00
                                  Come Alive VIP
                                  $995.00
                                  Dark Ballet VIP
                                  $750.00
                                  Seating Area 1
                                  $759.00
                                  Seating Area 2
                                  $509.00
                                  Seating Area 3
                                  $359.00
                                  Seating Area 4
                                  $259.00
                                  Seating Area 5
                                  $134.00
                                  Seating Area 6
                                  $97.00
                                  Seating Area 7
                                  $52.00

                                  Based on the ticket prices, very surprised he average wasn’t higher - the majority of seats were not $259 or less.
                                  Once again, Arthur Fogel confirmed at the start of the tour that the average first market ticket price was, and would end up, around $300. It did.

                                  You just don't know how to calculate the average price.

                                  1.) The pricing tiers are irrelevant, the number of tickets within each tier is what matters.
                                  2.) Ticketmaster Platinum tickets and tickets that were sold as part of a VIP package do not count towards Bilboard Boxscores.

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                                  • Angeman being banned at MadonnaRetardation doesn't say much though. I got banned years ago when I registered for saying Rebel Heart sucks (and that was my only negative post there). It's no secret I hate that album. They're trigger happy when it comes to bans for saying anything bad even when it's not directly towards M as a person.
                                    I have received many gifts from God,
                                    but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                                    .

                                    Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                                    • Originally posted by PDC717 View Post

                                      Once again, Arthur Fogel confirmed at the start of the tour that the average first market ticket price was, and would end up, around $300. It did.

                                      You just don't know how to calculate the average price.
                                      Of course I know how to calculate an average price, it's basic maths, but thanks for the insult Mr 61 posts

                                      In London the ticket average there was $377 which is a lot more in line with what I thought the overall average would be. In comparison, NYC - with more shows - had an average of $306 and a larger venue yet sold less tickets per show too. The irony of course is that Broadway is always more expensive than the West End (though I suppose BAM isn't Broadway).

                                      Chicago was incredibly low with an average ticket price of $237, Philadelphia even lower at $217 and Portugal - the birthplace of the album - comes in the lowest with an average ticket price of just $189 (which is literally half London's average).

                                      Interestingly enough her highest average show gross was in Las Vegas with a show average of $1,414,925. Okay so it's helped somewhat by the fact more tickets were available (4,200 per show) but even her ticket average there was higher than NYC at $336. This is slightly worrying because it shows audiences are still prepared to pay slightly more than the overall tour average per ticket, in venues twice the size she played else where on MXT.
                                      “I shouldn’t be in a conservatorship if I can work and provide money and work for myself and pay other people — it makes no sense”

                                      #FreeBritney

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                                      • You do know ticket price average is also fluctationg between the cities in arena/stadium shows too? Not just for Madonna, but for every artist. You can't expect Portugal shows to match UK shows. What you're saying literally makes 0 sense.
                                        I have received many gifts from God,
                                        but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                                        .

                                        Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                                        • Originally posted by beredy View Post
                                          You do know ticket price average is also fluctationg between the cities in arena/stadium shows too? Not just for Madonna, but for every artist. You can't expect Portugal shows to match UK shows. What you're saying literally makes 0 sense.
                                          Looking at average ticket prices is gross vs total ticket sales - it breaks it down to the point all shows can be compared. Obviously it doesn't take into consideration local ergonomics and average ticket prices are only one part of the story, but the figures can speak for themselves: people in Portugal were not prepared to spend as much per ticket on people in say Las Vegas or London, or at the very least, given the opportunity by Live Nation to do so (6 sell out shows with a low ticket average is indicative that they might have under priced Portugal, for example).

                                          The Portuguese audience was actually larger than that in London too (roughly 25% increased capacity per show), so she shifted more tickets there (per show) and still came out with a lower gross per night and a lower average ticket price. If Madonna was to look through her sales statistics for the tour in order to judge which markets were the best to focus on next time, Portugal wouldn't necessarily be as financially rewarding as staying in London for another 6 shows (for example).

                                          Like I said, this is just one viewpoint and there are other factors in play, but generally speaking it is a much sounder business plan to focus on markets where you can make more money for selling the same product - which was the point I was making with Vegas: Madonna made more money per show and per ticket for performing the same show in a venue to an audience twice the size than in (most) other venues - where it was less intimate (the USP of the entire tour).

                                          I mean on a basic level, she did 6 shows in Portugal making just over $4 million (to 15,500 fans) and just three shows in Las Vegas, performed to 12,600 fans and made just shy of $6 million. Essentially, Madonna made $104 more per ticket sold in Vegas compared to Portugal... and did 50% less work.

                                          “I shouldn’t be in a conservatorship if I can work and provide money and work for myself and pay other people — it makes no sense”

                                          #FreeBritney

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                                          • She didn't want to be a local act and was aware she can't move the same amount of $$$ in every country. You know how? This ain't her first tour.

                                            ​​​​​​RHT
                                            LV 12.8k people $3.8m
                                            Barcelona (and Spain is a richer country than Portugal) 28k people $2.3m

                                            You are sounding a bit bitter and confused. She wanted to play Lisbon for obvious facts. Not for the $$$ only.
                                            I have received many gifts from God,
                                            but this is the first time I have ever received a gift from a goddess
                                            .

                                            Don McLean on Madonna's version of American Pie

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                                            • VIP Packages, Merch and etc are not even allowed to be included in box office reports. You can do this, but they recommend you to don't. That's why Celine is doing $1.2-1.5 million per show in ticket sales but her team is adding other kind of $ just to push the total to over $2 million a night.

                                              The prices are different for each city and there is a discrepancy between sections in terms of number of tickets released in each. The average ticket price is exactly what it should be.

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                                              • Originally posted by beredy View Post
                                                She didn't want to be a local act and was aware she can't move the same amount of $$$ in every country. You know how? This ain't her first tour.

                                                ​​​​​​RHT
                                                LV 12.8k people $3.8m
                                                Barcelona (and Spain is a richer country than Portugal) 28k people $2.3m

                                                You are sounding a bit bitter and confused. She wanted to play Lisbon for obvious facts. Not for the $$$ only.
                                                I'm not bitter at all, nor am I confused - I'm literally just reading the story of the figures we can all see and all have access to. There is zero personal attachment to the money that is (sadly) not mine.

                                                I said there were other factors at play and we all know why she wanted to tour in Portugal - she wanted to play that particular venue. Same as the MDNA Paris date where she played that theatre for 45 minutes - it was an indulgence. Nor have I said she should chase the money - but simply stated that good business would be to do just that. We all know she'll never do a Vegas residency despite having the stardom to do it and to do it well, because she just isn't interested. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't be sound business to do so.

                                                But the figures do tell a story and touring is a business. I never claimed it was the full story (in fact I said they don't tell the full picture) but that doesn't mean Madonna or Live Nation won't look at the data and interpret it. Look at the US dates for example - one question that you can take away from those figures is whether Live Nation chose the right cities for her to perform in.

                                                Clearly some cities weren't as financially successful as others - which raises the question of 'why not?' and Live Nation looking for answers, evaluating the reasons and learning any lessons that might need to be learnt. I mean for all we know one of the takeaways could be that perhaps they should have gone to Toronto for a few shows instead of say Philadelphia.

                                                To analyse the figures though isn't to attack Madonna so I really don't see how that makes me sound confused nor bitter. All I'm doing is interpreting the data available and raising points that the data tells us - raising them doesn't mean it's done so in a negative way.
                                                “I shouldn’t be in a conservatorship if I can work and provide money and work for myself and pay other people — it makes no sense”

                                                #FreeBritney

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