DnBLover wrote:My first issue: the only person riled up in here about Bruno Mars winning the award for not being black is clh_hilary. Who else has shown to be upset about it?
I wasn't talking about UKMIX. I don't frequent UKMIX. In some of my comments, you can see me referring specifically to the Billboard
opinion piece that claims his win is seen as a continuous oppression of an underrepresented group, despite him being a minority himself, and in fact suggested that his career might be over after this.
DnBLover wrote:Second issue: fighting for blacks does not equal to fighting against other people. Just like fighting for yourself, for your rights, does not mean you are fighting against everybody else. That argument is purely based on ignorance and if you don't recognize different people have different rights, then you are surely privileged and most likely racist/sexist/homophobic/etc.
A huge strawman due to the fact that you failed to recognize those are two points - 1. black artists are not underrepresented among AOTY winners, 2. Bruno Mars's win does not represent the continuous oppression of an underrepresented group.
DnBLover wrote:Then, Grammys are not an American-exclusive show!!!
DnBLover wrote:They are Anglo-Saxonic,
No. Only a minority in the United States descended from Britons to begin with, then you get the Scots, the Welsh, and the Irish who were Celtic, not Anglo-Saxon. Then you also get the fact that after the Anglo-Saxon immigrants kicked out the Celts, you got the Viking, the Roman, the Norman takeovers, then the recent waves of Commonwealth and non-Commonwealth immigration. Even Her Majesty The Queen has hardly any Anglo-Saxon blood in her.
DnBLover wrote:Now tell me, if you include all population, are they really overrepresented? That's #1.
Literally dealt with this. China or India alone have more people than the entire African continent (which includes a substantial amount of non-black people).
DnBLover wrote:Second, general demographics do not matter, it matters how many people make music. And a biiig part of mainstream musical production comes from black artists, compared to a tiny part of other American minorities.
Also literally dealt with this. I mentioned that the only other way to say they are not overrepresented is if you can cite sources proving that there are more black musicians out there proportionally, yet everyone, including you, could offer nothing more than "you're wrong cuz I say so".
And even when there aren't that many Asian artists (but you'd still need to ask yourself if the current AOTY make-up could really represent the population, when before Bruno, the only other Asian who won was John Lennon's wife, who won it with him and would never have won anything on her own, and Bruno himself is less than half-Asian. Are there really so few Asians there can't even be 1 full Asian win?), there are undoubtedly a huge amount of Latin/Hispanic artists, including the very prominent (some legendary) Jennifer Lopez, Pitbull, Camilla Cabello, Selena Gomez, Selena, Gloria Estefan, Shakira, Enrique Inglesia, Marc Anthony, Ricky Martin, Prince Royce, Jenni Rivera, Juan Gabriels, Becky G, Thalia, J Balvin etc especially considering the fact that there is a huge number of Latinos/Hispanics living in the US, which as a country, controls the Latino territory of Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, even a part of Cuba, as well as the former Spanish territory of Florida and the Mexican territories of Texas, California, New Mexico, Arizona, among other regions.