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Postby JahWomble » Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:16 pm

You could be right about northern commercial stations - we didn't get 'em down south, so no way of my knowing. I'd say that the introduction of 'rival' chart shows definitely drove the radio industry to work harder, but nationally, R1 and TOTP were still driving singles sales throughout the eighties and well into the nineties: a TOTP performance was pretty much guaranteed to boost a record's following-week chances. (For example, to the extent that U2 and their management publicly bemoaned the fact that a 1983 performance of Two Hearts somehow preceded a drop the following week.) Admittedly, these increases in sales were reflected primarily in the Gallup/BBC charts, but there wasn't a massive difference between the content of that and its commercial rivals - ie, they all featured pretty much the same records, but in a slightly different order.

The Chart Show was indeed a breath of fresh air for music television, and at least showcased specialist charts properly. Most previous attempts at chart programming - eg, The Pepsi Chart Show/The Roxy - had been pretty dismal. Shame when it disappeared.
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Postby CZB » Thu Jun 29, 2017 6:58 pm

Tonight's BBC FOUR repeat, episode 1040 :

02/02/84 (Presented by David Jensen and John Peel)
(27) Musical Youth – “Sixteen”
(04) Queen – “Radio Ga Ga” (video)
(05) Matthew Wilder – “Break My Stride”
Clips of videos nominated as the best of 1983:
- Madness - "Wings Of A Dove", David Bowie - "Let's Dance"
- Eurythmics - "Who's That Girl", Police - "Every Breath You Take"
- Adam Ant - "Puss In Boots", Rod Stewart - "Baby Jane"
- Bonnie Tyler - "Total Eclipse Of The Heart", Tracey Ullman - "Move Over Darling"
- Phil Collins - "You Can't Hurry Love", Elton John - "I'm Still Standin"

(06) Fiction Factory – “(Feels Like) Heaven”
(28) Thomas Dolby – “Hyperactive” (video)
(18) Thompson Twins – “Doctor Doctor”
( Charts 40 - 25 - David Jensen )
(25) Juan Martin – “Love Theme from the Thorn Birds”
( Charts 24 - 11 - John Peel )
(12) Duran Duran – “New Moon On Monday” (video)
( Charts 10 - 01 - David Jensen / John Peel )
(26) Manhattan Transfer – “Spice Of Life” (audience dancing/credits)


I didn't really like anything much from this edition - the Matthew Wilder song held back till the late night repeats was about as good as it got . . . . .

I think this could be the first time that the BBC FOUR editors have chopped out a performance in between two sections of the chart rundown, and edited them together !




[ Corrected 30/06/17 - "Break My Stride" was edited out from before the video clips, not after them ]
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Postby Blondini » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:02 pm

^Yes JW and Graham, i read that Capital played a fair amount of punk and new wave in the playlist thread in Chart Analysis. But certainly our local station and the others it was syndicated with reacted in horror at - for example - Nirvana's Smells Like Teen Spirit. The Roxy (based on the Network Chart top 75) debuted in 87 - after The Chart Show debuted and even had The Fall on it with Hit The North (the follow-up to their hit There's A Ghost In My House). Didn't help it go top 40 on either chart, though. The Network Chart might have been "a week ahead" to start with but by mid 87 they weren't ahead in terms of what was selling. Case in point - The Firm's Star Trekkin' was at 13 on the BBC chart but only 32 on Network Chart. It sold so quickly that the group had to make that famous animated video very quickly. It was submitted minutes before TOTP was on air! At this point the song had risen 13-1 but was 32-3 on Network Chart.

Back to TOTP 84 and it seems Thomas Dolby benefited from the Relax ban. Thorn Birds is excluded from later edition too due to rights issues.
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Postby Blondini » Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:27 pm

Edited above post as i hadn't read Graham's last post.
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Postby Graham76man » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:12 pm

Tony I hope you are not going on magazine dates for the difference between the Network and Gallup Chart.
Number One Magazine was a week late in bringing out the Network Chart.
I think the actually chart would show the 32 to 3 rise when the BBC was still broadcasting at 13 rather than number one. So the Network Chart on Sunday would tell us that Star Trekkin was number 3. Then the following Tuesday Radio One would tell us that it was Number One. The Network Chart, not taking in Saturday sales of course, which would have included sales from TOTP, but the Tuesday Gallup chart did take in the Saturday sales.
Because the Gallup chart was published Tuesday that gave the printers enough time to compose the chart. So you could see it in Record Mirror and then listen to the same chart being broadcast on Sunday's Radio One show.
However since the Network Chart came out Sunday that gave no time for the printer and so it was printed in Number One the week after it was broadcast.
The same thing happened to the Official Chart, when they switched to Sunday publishing. Record Mirror and TOTP were publishing a week old chart.
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Postby Graham76man » Thu Jun 29, 2017 11:22 pm

True Entertainment (Freeview 61) are currently showing The Thorn Birds at 11am. It was a massive in the ratings, shown on BBC 1 I think back then. Something that the BBC would not now do. Show American style drama like that on BBC 1 these days.
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Postby CZB » Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:52 pm

Tonight, advancing a fortnight to most of episode 1042 :


16/02/84 (Presented by Simon Bates and Peter Powell)
(34) Slade – “Run Runaway”
(03) Thompson Twins – “Doctor Doctor” (video)
(08) The Style Council – “My Ever Changing Moods”
Jonathan King with the US chart:
- Rockwell – “Somebody’s Watching Me” (video clip and interview)
- Van Halen – “Jump” (video clip)
- The Romantics – “Talking In Your Sleep” (video clip)
- Duran Duran – interview + “New Moon On Monday” (video clip)
- Kool & The Gang – “Joanna” (video clip)

(19) Shannon – “Let The Music Play” (video)
( Charts 40 - 26 - Peter Powell )
(36) Matt Bianco – “Get Out Of Your Lazy Bed”
( Charts 25 - 11 - Simon Bates )
(11) Nena – “99 Red Balloons”
( Charts 10 - 01 - Simon Bates / Peter Powell )
(27) Break Machine – “Street Dance” (and credits)


Not enough material left to fill half an hour, once the Jonathan King section is removed ! Quite some time after the original German version of "99 Red Balloons" had topped the charts in various other countries, Nena was on the way to number one here too - but it would take two more weeks yet . . . . .
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Postby Blondini » Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:35 pm

Graham76man wrote:Tony I hope you are not going on magazine dates for the difference between the Network and Gallup Chart.
Number One Magazine was a week late in bringing out the Network Chart.
I think the actually chart would show the 32 to 3 rise when the BBC was still broadcasting at 13 rather than number one. So the Network Chart on Sunday would tell us that Star Trekkin was number 3. Then the following Tuesday Radio One would tell us that it was Number One. The Network Chart, not taking in Saturday sales of course, which would have included sales from TOTP, but the Tuesday Gallup chart did take in the Saturday sales.
Because the Gallup chart was published Tuesday that gave the printers enough time to compose the chart. So you could see it in Record Mirror and then listen to the same chart being broadcast on Sunday's Radio One show.
However since the Network Chart came out Sunday that gave no time for the printer and so it was printed in Number One the week after it was broadcast.
The same thing happened to the Official Chart, when they switched to Sunday publishing. Record Mirror and TOTP were publishing a week old chart.
No, i know from actual memory that the chart was the week i stated. You only have to check the brand new entries high on the two charts to see they match. George Michael's I Want Your Sex went in at 3 the same week it went in at 4 on the BBC chart. I bought Number One magazine from this period - i know the charts match. I also know from memory that The Roxy debuted in this period and aired the same Network Chart the same week as the BBC TOTP - they could not transmit Star Trekkin' at 3 because there was no footage yet. TOTP had the exclusive play of it the same week.

The Network Chart compiled sales from an earlier time period than the Gallup one but this meant many songs entered lower and were still climbing when on Gallup they had already peaked. This sticks in my mind clearly as a chart fanatic because it fascinated me to follow both at the same time. Some songs debuted higher and peaked much higher but mainly we were waiting for Network to catch up with Gallup, not the other way round. I don't know about the period before May 87.

Some examples:
The Jesus and Mary Chain - April Skies
Gallup: 19-8-10-24
Network: 29-13-5-9

The Sisters Of Mercy - This Corrosion
Gallup: 13-7-11-26
Network: 29-7-6-12

Marillion - Incommunicado
Gallup: 6-6-12-30
Network: 18-5-6-18

http://www.shanemarais.net/wp-content/u ... y-1987.jpg
http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/si ... 0517/7501/
You can see both Marillion and Whitney brand new in the same week - both were major high profile releases so they could only chart that week alone, they're not climbing from outside. Same with George Michael on the link i posted above. Completely corresponds to Gallup chart and leads us to the week of Star Trekkin' i posted.

Check the archives for yourself: http://www.shanemarais.net/no-1-magazine-1987-1989/

I'm currently voting each week in the UKMix Retro Charts and it's easy to see the weeks match. You can check the corresponding Indie Chart Archives too from the Number One and Cherry Red archives. As well as the Metal and Dance Charts in Number One also featured on The Chart Show. Why not join us, we could always do with more!

Eventually the Network Chart was dropped because their earlier sales period was constantly including higher peaks for rock and indie bands that by the 90s had big first day sales. It meant they were forced to play songs they didn't want to play (Nirvana's limited edition Oh The Guilt went in at 9 and was still in at 23 the next week when it was lower and dropped faster on the official BBC chart). This forced them to incorporate a radio play element to positions 11-40 for a long time until we got to this latest iTunes / airplay shambles they use.

Clip from banned DLT edition for last week in 84 (by trio features two future Scarlet Fantastic members.
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Postby Graham76man » Sat Jul 01, 2017 12:43 am

It's NOT that the charts match it is when they were broadcast being the point.
I remember clearly the Network Chart on Sunday it had new entries in the top 30 which did NOT appear till the following Sunday on the BBC Chart show. Yes when the BBC chart did appear they were higher than the Network Chart.
If the situation was the same today then last Sunday the Network Chart would have Grenfell Tower record in the top ten, but the BBC chart would still be broadcasting the week before and no Grenfell Tower record in the chart at all.

I put the blame on the BBC chart using week ending dates. It makes it appear ahead of any other charts. When it wasn't, not until anyway it changed to publishing the charts within an hour of the Chart Company compiling them. Till that time you were always hearing on the Radio One chart a week behind. So that when Nena hit number one on the 3 March 1984. The BBC were still playing Frankie as the number one record, you didn't find out about Nena, till the Tuesday afterwards.
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Postby Graham76man » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:07 am

As a comparison showing how slow the BBC chart was....

Radio One top ten broadcast for the 26 Feb 1984 (Gallup Chart)
16 - 01 - 01 - Frankie Goes To Hollywood - RELAX
04 - 11 - 02 - Nena - 99 RED BALLOONS
04 - 03 - 03 - Thompson Twins - DOCTOR DOCTOR
04 - 02 - 04 - Queen - RADIO GA GA
02 - 08 - 05 - Style Council - MY EVER CHANGING MOODS
07 - 05 - 06 - Matthew Wilder - BREAK MY STRIDE
04 - 15 - 07 - Rockwell - SOMEBODY'S WATCHING ME
07 - 04 - 08 - Cyndi Lauper - GIRLS JUST WANT TO HAVE FUN
05 - 14 - 09 - Nik Kershaw - WOULDN'T IT BE GOOD
03 - 26 - 10 - Kool And The Gang - JOANNA / TONIGHT

Actual top ten that day (Gallup)
Week Ending 03 March 1984

05 - 02 - 01 - Nena - 99 RED BALLOONS
17 - 01 - 02 - Frankie Goes To Hollywood - RELAX
04 - 10 - 03 - Kool And The Gang - JOANNA / TONIGHT
06 - 09 - 04 - Nik Kershaw - WOULDN'T IT BE GOOD
05 - 03 - 05 - Thompson Twins - DOCTOR DOCTOR
05 - 07 - 06 - Rockwell - SOMEBODY'S WATCHING ME
05 - 04 - 07 - Queen - RADIO GA GA
03 - 12 - 08 - Billy Joel - AN INNOCENT MAN
03 - 05 - 09 - Style Council - MY EVER CHANGING MOODS
05 - 19 - 10 - Slade - RUN RUNAWAY
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Postby Graham76man » Sat Jul 01, 2017 1:16 am

However on the Sunday the Network chart was broadcasting that chart, here's what the BBC were broadcasting:

07 - 01 - 01 - Starship - NOTHING'S GONNA STOP US NOW
08 - 02 - 02 - Judy Boucher - CAN'T BE WITH YOU TONIGHT
07 - 04 - 03 - Tom Jones - A BOY FROM NOWHERE
08 - 07 - 04 - Labi Siffre - (SOMETHING INSIDE) SO STRONG
07 - 06 - 05 - Living In A Box - LIVING IN A BOX
07 - 09 - 06 - Kim Wilde And Junior - ANOTHER STEP (CLOSER TO YOU)
07 - 03 - 07 - Madonna - LA ISLA BONITA
05 - 05 - 08 - Five Star - THE SLIGHTEST TOUCH
07 - 13 - 09 - Fleetwood Mac - BIG LOVE
03 - 08 - 10 - Jesus And Mary Chain - APRIL SKIES
03 - 17 - 11 - Cult - LIL' DEVIL
07 - 22 - 12 - Sly And Robbie - BOOPS (HERE TO GO)
04 - 16 - 13 - Cameo - BACK AND FORTH
07 - 19 - 14 - Spear Of Destiny - NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE
04 - 10 - 15 - Level 42 - TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN
02 - 23 - 16 - Depeche Mode - STRANGELOVE
09 - 11 - 17 - Club Nouveau - LEAN ON ME
08 - 30 - 18 - Johnny Hates Jazz - SHATTERED DREAMS
05 - 25 - 19 - Carey Johnson - REAL FASHION REGGAE STYLE
11 - 12 - 20 - Terence Trent D'Arby - IF YOU LET ME STAY
08 - 29 - 21 - Wet Wet Wet - WISHING I WAS LUCKY
05 - 27 - 22 - Europe - CARRIE
05 - 14 - 23 - Glenn And Chris - DIAMOND LIGHTS
02 - 40 - 24 - Zodiac Mindwarp And The Love Reaction - PRIME MOVER
11 - 18 - 25 - Mel And Kim - RESPECTABLE
09 - 39 - 26 - Robbie Nevil - DOMINOES
04 - 28 - 27 - Damned - ALONE AGAIN OR
08 - 24 - 28 - U2 - WITH OR WITHOUT YOU
04 - 15 - 29 - Smiths - SHEILA TAKE A BOW
02 - 43 - 30 - Fall - THERE'S A GHOST IN MY HOUSE
09 - 20 - 31 - Fine Young Cannibals - EVER FALLEN IN LOVE
04 - 35 - 32 - Sybil - LET YOURSELF GO
06 - 42 - 33 - Donna Allen - SERIOUS
05 - 32 - 34 - Swing Out Sister - TWILIGHT WORLD
02 - 44 - 35 - Tottenham Hotspur FC - HOT SHOT TOTTENHAM!
09 - 21 - 36 - Janet Jackson - LET'S WAIT AWHILE
03 - 37 - 37 - Westworld - BA-NA-NA-BAM-BOO
02 - 57 - 38 - Mirage - JACK MIX II/III
05 - 46 - 39 - John Farnham - YOU'RE THE VOICE
02 - 51 - 40 - UB40 - WATCHDOGS
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Postby Blondini » Sun Jul 02, 2017 9:46 pm

They were in line with each other by 87 though. Radio 1 changed their announcement date from Tuesday midweek at lunch till the Sunday before so it was in line with commercial radio. The difference you mean was in the first three years of the Network Chart only 84-87.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Network_Chart_Show

The Network Chart Show was a radio programme launched across Independent Local Radio in the UK on 30 September 1984.

For its first three years, the Network Chart was more up-to-date than the BBC chart broadcast simultaneously (which had been around since the previous Tuesday), with many singles entering, and reaching their peak on, Sunday's new Network Chart before they did so on the official chart announced two days later.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_Singles_Chart

The chart was based entirely on sales of vinyl single records from retail outlets and announced on Tuesday until October 1987, when the Top 40 was revealed each Sunday (due to the new, automated process).[
OK, it was later in 87 than i thought but my point about many songs being very low on the Network Chart first week still stands - Janet Jackson's The Pleasure Principle wasn't even top 75 the week it entered the Gallup chart at 39! Therefore defeating the purpose of being "ahead of the BBC". Though songs lower down the chart were weighted more towards radio which i never knew before. I didn't even know there was a radio play component in the eighties. :o

In compiling the chart MRIB employed a sliding scale, meaning that for the lower reaches of the Top 40, airplay counted almost as much as sales. This often meant that the 40-to-20 positions could be very different between the Network and BBC charts. The weight given to airplay diminished the higher one went in the chart, and the Top 10 was meant to be entirely sales-based, although the Network Chart did not register sales from Saturday, the single most important record-buying day, until a week later. It was not unusual for the MRIB and Gallup charts to have different songs at Number One.

Because the chart did not include sales from the likes of Woolworths & WH Smith, some songs with more specialised appeal (including many by The Smiths) peaked higher than on the official chart, whereas some songs with more middle-of-the-road appeal (such as Su Pollard's "Starting Together") might sometimes peak lower. This had also been the case with the Record Business magazine chart used by ILR in the late 1970s and early 1980s, which also did not include data from the more family-friendly shops. As with the Record Business chart, regional charts were also produced by MRIB for individual ILR stations.
This airplay element and the independent record store bias meant there was a bizarre push and pull between acts they played and less "commercial" indie acts like The Fall whose There's A Ghost In My House reached the weirdly high position of 19 compared to Gallup's 30. And pre Gallup charting Pop Will Eat Itself making the Network 75 first with their Sigue Sigue Sputnik cover.

Most of my memory of the two chart shows is from after October 87! :lol: :oops: :)

Off-topic. Maybe this should be an actual thread.
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Postby Graham76man » Sun Jul 02, 2017 11:20 pm

So you are critical of a chart that uses Radio Airplay, but highly supportive of one that uses streams. Even though they are both based on people listening to music rather than buying it. Not only that they have now altered the streaming chart to reflect the fact the streaming method is unworkable, due to the fact people can keep listening to music for an unlimited time, unlike buying music. It's ironic that Airplay employs the same system as the current chart now. In that somebody decides that's enough for that record and they stop it charting.

I never said that the Network Chart was more accurate, just that it was faster than the BBC chart. And for most people it was. It was the driving force behind the change in the chart used by the BBC. In fact even the BBC's style of presenting it was driven by the Network Chart. And later on the style was influenced by the Hit 40UK.
The BBC has been dragged kicking and screaming into presenting the charts, by ITV and Independent Radio leading the way. Otherwise the BBC would still be playing a selection of pop music, like Pick of The Pops. Around a carefully selected section of non offensive records to a script that had every word written down for the presenter to speak. Including the "not half's" of Freeman. Which they stole the idea from Radio Luxembourg.
I'm not certain that inside the BBC the attitude "that commercial pop music should be avoid," still operates. It certainly did in the past, which is why the dodgy presenters of TOTP were ignored. "Let them get on with it". We are not interested in why teenagers are bothered about how much pop stars make. As long as the Attenbrough types can make ground breaking stuff. Was the BBC philosophy then. However they had one problem to deal with. The Governments were opposed to the BBC and so they forced them to be commercial in all but name. So the heads of departments and presenters were selected from the same backgrounds and in some cases direct from the commercial sector. So it wasn't to much of a strain to copy what the commercial sector were doing.
When EPOS was widespread it was possible for the chart company to produce the chart hours after the data was collected. So that's what they did. And the Sunday chart was as fast as the ILR chart. Though they once had to stop a packet of KP peanuts charting!

By the way there are already threads connected with the Network Chart on the Chart Analyses section. Which include links to my copies of ALL the Network Charts and Record Business charts.
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Postby Blondini » Tue Jul 04, 2017 11:39 pm

I'd rather have a chart based on what people want to hear rather than what DJ's THINK you want to hear. Radio playlists are not driven by requests. The state of the rival chart in the 90s with scores of easy safe bland records clogging up the 11-30 section was ridiculous.
Yes, they do market research for playlists but it's not the same as a member of the public choosing something for themselves.
I'm a streamer, i want the chart to represent me. I'm not a DJ getting bribes or freebies for playing somebody's record or being told to play something to please advertisers.

I did a search and couldn't find another Network Chart thread.
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Postby CZB » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:57 pm

Tonight, episode 1043 :


23/02/84 (Presented by Janice Long and Mike Read)
(28) Hot Chocolate – “I Gave You My Heart (Didn’t I?)”
(07) Rockwell – “Somebody’s Watching Me” (video)
(39) Marilyn – “Cry And Be Free”
(10) Kool and the Gang – “Joanna” (video)
(09) Nik Kershaw – “Wouldn’t It Be Good” (including video clip)
( Charts 40 - 26 - Janice Long )
(35) Carmel – “More More More”
( Charts 25 - 11 - Mike Read )
(15) Howard Jones – “Hide And Seek” (video)
( Charts 10 - 02 with video clips )
(34) Re-Flex – “The Politics Of Dancing” (and credits)


Before looking it up on Wikipedia, I guessed that the birthday Mike Read indicated Howard Jones was celebrating was his 30th . . . . . one year out, it was his 29th. So he's now 62 !

Very big in the rest of Europe, I was surprised that this early-nineties dance remake of Rockwell's hit by DJ Bobo was never released here:



However, three of his later singles did make it into the top fifty in the UK - one of them even sneaking into the top forty . . . . .
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Postby Blondini » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:19 pm

Really odd decision by the producer to show video clips of the top ten making it even more obvious that Relax was banned.
And Mike Read who banned it admits on air to perving over Nena (Gabriele Kerner). Dis-grace-ful! :evil: :roll: :lol:

The Politics Of Dancing should have been bigger and the way it's fondly remembered you'd think it was.
Despite charting here and the US the only really big positions were in Canada (#9) and Australia (#12).
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Postby Graham76man » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:20 pm

With unemployment on Official figures at 3 million and probably more closer to 4 or 5 million. It was motivation for Nik Kershaw's to come up with Wouldn't It Be Good. The words relate to people who had the money "you've gotta good". And those who had not. "You don't know how bad I've got it".

At the time I was into Adult Education playing with a BBC microcomputer. Still playing with Computers now, but this one would blow the BBC one out of the water :lol:
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Postby CZB » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:56 pm

Tonight, episode 1044 :


01/03/84 (Presented by David Jensen and John Peel)
(17) Matt Bianco – “Get Out Of Your Lazy Bed”
(20) Van Halen – “Jump” (video)
(35) Alexei Sayle – “Ullo John Gotta New Motor?”
(30) Soft Cell – “Down In The Subway” (video)
(11) Break Machine – “Street Dance”
( Charts 40 - 26 - John Peel )
(42) Wang Chung – “Dance Hall Days”
( Charts 25 - 10 - David Jensen )
(10) Slade – “Run Runaway” (video)
( Charts 09 - 01 - John Peel / David Jensen )
(01) Nena – “99 Red Balloons”
(38) Julia & Company – “Breakin’ Down (Sugar Samba)” (audience dancing/credits)


The Wang Chung single was one of only three featured in the first half of 1984 when not yet in the top forty - I'm not sure that any such performances had ever previously been captioned with the actual number they were at ! It went on to peak at number 21 - but did better in some other countries.

I don't recall the Soft Cell hit held back till later at all - perhaps because it came and went from the top 75 pretty quickly ( 38 30 24 29 42 70 ) .
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Postby Blondini » Fri Jul 07, 2017 6:57 pm

Thought we'd seen the last of the songs outside the main chart. Wang Chung lucky to feature. :o
They had bigger (and different) hits in the US but their best singles were flops on both sides of the Atlantic.
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Postby CZB » Fri Jul 14, 2017 6:54 pm

Tonight, episode 1045 :


08/03/84 (Presented by Gary Davies and Richard Skinner)
(27) Phil Fearon & Galaxy – “What Do I Do?”
(02) Kool & The Gang – “Joanna” (video)
(36) The Weather Girls – “It’s Raining Men”
(32) Tracey Ullman – “My Guy” (video)
(37) Sade – “Your Love Is King”
( Charts 40 - 26 - Richard Skinner )
(38) Bananarama – “Robert De Niro’s Waiting”
( Charts 25 -11 - Gary Davies )
(12) Howard Jones – “Hide & Seek”
( Charts 10 - 01 - Gary Davies / Richard Skinner )
(01) Nena – “99 Red Balloons”
(31) Mel Brooks – “To Be Or Not To Be (The Hitler Rap)” (video/credits)


Richard Skinner's introduction mentioning that this edition would be featuring the best of the week's new entries rather turned out to mean that most of the hits performed were from the bottom end of the top forty !

Not for the first time, an apology was given for a mis-spelling in the chart countdown captions spotted too late to be corrected . . . . .

Neil Kinnock, appearing in the Tracey Ullman video, was in charge of the Labour party at this time. I don't think any other leaders of the opposition have done this - although one of the other acts in this edition persuaded several MPs to participate in a television commercial for their greatest hits album a few years later :



( Warning, possibly too late - includes Cyril Smith )
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Postby Blondini » Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:23 pm

^ Jeremy Corbyn is surely doing a grime video as we type! :lol:
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Postby JahWomble » Tue Jul 18, 2017 4:32 pm

Blondini wrote:Thought we'd seen the last of the songs outside the main chart. Wang Chung lucky to feature. :o
They had bigger (and different) hits in the US but their best singles were flops on both sides of the Atlantic.
Singer Jack Hues aka Jeremy Ryder was briefly my music lecturer while at art school (1980-81) - and Huang Chung (as they were earlier named/spelled) played a goodly number of gigs at our college. Agree that the band had far better moments than the US/UK hits - Isn't It About Time (We Were on TV)? and Baby I'm Hu-man were popular with the students back then, but obviously didn't bother the chart stattos. (There were others like China, Rising in the East and Hold Back the Tears, but I was less keen on those.)

It was indeed odd (or anomalous) that they received a chart placing on TOTP when outside of the Top 40 with Dance Hall Days.
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Postby CZB » Thu Jul 20, 2017 6:53 pm

Several of the same hits again, as we advance a fortnight to episode 1047 :


22/03/84 (Presented by Janice Long and Peter Powell)
(29) Depeche Mode – “People Are People”
(05) The Weather Girls – “It’s Raining Men” (video)
(22) Shakin’ Stevens – “A Love Worth Waiting For”
(14) Culture Club – “It’s A Miracle” (video)
(08) Bananarama – “Robert De Niro’s Waiting” (video)
( Charts 40 - 28 - Janice Long )
(28) UB40 – “Cherry Oh Baby”
( Charts 27 - 09 - Peter Powell )
(09) Sade – “Your Love Is King”
( Charts 08 - 02 - Peter Powell / Janice Long )
(01) Lionel Richie – “Hello” (video)
(07) Phil Fearon & Galaxy – “What Do I Do?” (video/credits)


There seemed to be a lot of videos, not so many performances, in this edition ! I've bought a few other singles by some of the acts here, but none of these ones . . . . .

Diving ten places to number 16, it may have looked as if "Relax" was about to disappear from the top forty fairly quickly - but it would stick around for a further twenty-five weeks, climbing again in ten of them.

Peter Powell seemed a lot happier alongside Janice Long than he was together with Simon Bates a few weeks earlier in 1984 !
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Postby Graham76man » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:10 am

Lots of video's yes. At this point the video was king. It was easy for TOTP to get the video rather than the act and since the BBC were not paying for the video cheaper to show. The record companies loved it, because showing the video, as the Lionel proves, increases the sale of the records, whereas showing the band or act did little to improve sales.
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Postby CZB » Fri Jul 21, 2017 6:55 pm

Tonight, episode 1048 :


29/03/84 (Presented by Andy Peebles and Mike Read)
(29) The Special AKA – “Nelson Mandela”
(33) John Lennon and Yoko Ono – “Borrowed Time” (video)
(36) Captain Sensible – “Glad It’s All Over”
(30) Simple Minds – “Up On The Catwalk”
(28) Siouxsie and the Banshees – “Swimming Horses”
( Charts 40 - 27 - Mike Read )
(27) Madonna – “Lucky Star” (video)
( Charts 26 - 11 - Andy Peebles )
(13) Thompson Twins – “You Take Me Up”
( Charts 10 - 01 - Andy Peebles / Mike Read )
(01) Lionel Richie – “Hello” (video)
(20) Michael Jackson – “PYT (Pretty Young Thing)” (audience dancing/credits)


Another edition consisting mainly of hits from the bottom end of the top forty ! I must admit, I don't have any great recollection of the ones that didn't go much higher for John Lennon and Simple Minds, nor the Siouxsie and the Banshees single which peaked this week and was gone from the top 75 three weeks later . . . . .
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