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Postby menime123 » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:17 pm

Thriller wrote:Bit of a reach! Are we meant to care about a forgettable season one character?
I think it’s more for the comic fans than tv viewers - but was a crap return because frankly that was literally 100 episodes ago :lol:
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Postby Michiel » Tue Oct 31, 2017 4:48 pm

The decline of this show is too painful...
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Postby menime123 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 11:42 pm

Michiel wrote:The decline of this show is too painful...
They’ll figure it out. I’m hoping this last war with Negan gives them stability to actually build lives. I’m ready to see what happens there, instead of just people killing people all the time instead of zombies. I think that’s why I loved the prison so much - they really tried to make it work.
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Postby Thriller » Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:37 pm

What was the point in bringing that guy back for Daryl to kill him? Daryl killing everyone without question was the best thing about the episode although Morgan is suddenly wanting everyone dead and Jesus is the new voice of reason? The scene with Aaron watch Eric disappear as a walker was sad.

I feel like it's a bit messy at the moment. It's hard to know where everyone is. The cliffhanger was good though.
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Postby menime123 » Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:38 pm

Thriller wrote:What was the point in bringing that guy back for Daryl to kill him? Daryl killing everyone without question was the best thing about the episode although Morgan is suddenly wanting everyone dead and Jesus is the new voice of reason? The scene with Aaron watch Eric disappear as a walker was sad.

I feel like it's a bit messy at the moment. It's hard to know where everyone is. The cliffhanger was good though.
I agree more or less. My biggest gripe is I don’t know why they all split up into different locations. I get they’re trying to disband The Saviours, but I feel like they missed a trick taking a breather between episode 1 and 2.

Eric dying was sad. I guess he’ll pop up again because he wasn’t put down as a walker. But I swear Aaron died last season... so him popping up in episode 1 was a surprise :lol:

I’m over The King - my guess is he’s more believable in the comic book than on TV. He needs de-throning and made to give up The King persona, because humanising him is the only way to save the character imo.
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Postby SeeForever » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:07 pm

menime123 wrote:I agree more or less. My biggest gripe is I don’t know why they all split up into different locations. I get they’re trying to disband The Saviours, but I feel like they missed a trick taking a breather between episode 1 and 2.

Eric dying was sad. I guess he’ll pop up again because he wasn’t put down as a walker. But I swear Aaron died last season... so him popping up in episode 1 was a surprise :lol:

I’m over The King - my guess is he’s more believable in the comic book than on TV. He needs de-throning and made to give up The King persona, because humanising him is the only way to save the character imo.
I think you just got your wish!! At last an episode where someone has a proper character moment after all the shooting for 3 weeks, didn't expect what happened near the end, really sad about that, still that moment with the axe was priceless

Does Rick using that new weapon make him as bad as the Saviors though?
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Postby menime123 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:23 pm

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menime123 wrote:I agree more or less. My biggest gripe is I don’t know why they all split up into different locations. I get they’re trying to disband The Saviours, but I feel like they missed a trick taking a breather between episode 1 and 2.

Eric dying was sad. I guess he’ll pop up again because he wasn’t put down as a walker. But I swear Aaron died last season... so him popping up in episode 1 was a surprise :lol:

I’m over The King - my guess is he’s more believable in the comic book than on TV. He needs de-throning and made to give up The King persona, because humanising him is the only way to save the character imo.
I think you just got your wish!! At last an episode where someone has a proper character moment after all the shooting for 3 weeks, didn't expect what happened near the end, really sad about that, still that moment with the axe was priceless

Does Rick using that new weapon make him as bad as the Saviors though?
I think I did :o :lol:

Best episode of the season so far. Very sad ending.

I’m hoping Rick will only use the weapon if he has to... Jesus will talk him around. Yes, Rick’s group could be judged as being as bad as The Saviours, but Rick’s actions are defensive - he has been pushed into his current position. Rick would never play with The Saviours in the same way Negan played with them - Negan played mind games, from killing Abraham and Glenn for sport, almost cutting Carl’s arm off then walking around all casually with Judith.

What happens once Rick wins (and he will), is where the character redemption will come into it - not just for Rick, but everyone (let’s face it, they’ve killed without question in these last few episodes). I’m still waiting for them to build a community and build some sort of life. I’m so over fighting various groups, losing and moving on... but even after The Saviours, we’ve got these trash dwelling folk to deal with.
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Postby LightSeeker » Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:28 am

I think I'm in the minority here in that I think Season 8 has been incredible. I think the season is building up to wars breaking out internally as well as with the Saviour's; Rick vs Daryl, Jesus vs Morgan, Maggie vs Gregory etc etc. The latest episode was possibly the best and a big return to form after season 7. I was absolutely gutted at the ending to the point I almost teared up. It was also a big moment seeing Ezekiel so broken and defeated. I hope the rest of the season keeps up with it.
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Postby Thriller » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:34 pm

I disagree, I think this season has been the worst (so far). What I hate is the way they have a big episode, and then the following 3/4 episodes are slow. The latest episode was a step in the right direction... can we get back to Negan now?
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Postby LightSeeker » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:46 pm

Thriller wrote:I disagree, I think this season has been the worst (so far). What I hate is the way they have a big episode, and then the following 3/4 episodes are slow. The latest episode was a step in the right direction... can we get back to Negan now?
I do get where you're coming from but I feel a bit like they can't win. Season 7 was ripped to shreds because it was a complete misstep, and I do agree with that. They've then come back all guns blazing and they're still slated. The last episode was a definite step in the right direction but to be honest Negan has now worn a bit thin for me and I was a big fan when he was first introduced. I want to see The Whisperers now!
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Postby menime123 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:13 pm

But guns have been blazing for 4 episodes - the majority of each episode so far has been guns being fired at other people without hardly any story. It’s a bit tired now.
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Postby Thriller » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:23 pm

menime123 wrote:But guns have been blazing for 4 episodes - the majority of each episode so far has been guns being fired at other people without hardly any story. It’s a bit tired now.
Exactly, nothing's actually happened! They think that constant gunfire means action? It's even more boring.
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Postby menime123 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:07 pm

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menime123 wrote:But guns have been blazing for 4 episodes - the majority of each episode so far has been guns being fired at other people without hardly any story. It’s a bit tired now.
Exactly, nothing's actually happened! They think that constant gunfire means action? It's even more boring.
Exactly. Next week it’ll have been 4 weeks since Negan was surrounded by walkers stuck in a cabin with the priest - what’s happening there?

So many characters haven’t had a look in, its rediculous. Episode 4 was a real vintage episode imo - the show isn’t really about the dead, but how people are dealing with the new world they find themselves in.

The King’s breakdown back to just Ezekiel (if that is his real name?) was a character plot which will lead us onto a different version of the character. That was needed. That was real progression. I suspect Aaron will be headed in a new direction with Eric dying, but Eric dying was relegated to a sub plot of a whole load of gunfire. That’s not proper story telling imo.

Never mind. I hope next week is the end of the shooting - they can’t honestly expect it to last 5 weeks.

When I first watched the show I binge watched it (earlier this year) - 7 series in 3 weeks, and I knew it would drive me insane watching it weekly, because actually - not a lot happens in older seasons either episode to episode :lol:
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Postby menime123 » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:14 pm

I think it’s back to where it needs to be - we have storylines again :D
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Postby SeeForever » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:58 am

Rick decides to 'reason' with the Trash people (please, please write them out of this show asap by far the worst thing ever on this show) and now he's their prisoner, leaving his group leaderless, what an idiot, didn't he go there without telling anyone as well?? Daryl is going about this a bit too gung ho for me, he's going to make thinks a lot worse I think now that Rick's gone AWOL

Still Gregory finally gets what he deserved, the man only thinks about what's best for himself, even Jesus didn't question Maggie's decision there

Finally we get to see Michonee/Rosita, we hadn't seem them since episode 1? And what's with Carl bringing that guy back?
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Postby Thriller » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:43 pm

OK so it feels like it's moving on again but Rick's decision was ridiculous! They should just blow up those trash people.

Loved Rosita with whatever that gun was :o
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Postby menime123 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:14 pm

Rick did say his people knew he was there, and the monologue leading up to him approaching the trash people was about sticking to the plan. He’s exactly where he thought he’d be.

The question is, who else is there? Someone was in a crate and let out when she was sculpting naked.
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Postby LightSeeker » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:37 am

Loving how everything's coming together for the midseason finale. Gregory crying like a little bitch and Maggie owning that Saviour was everything I wanted it to be. Rosita with a rocket launcher was all kinds of incredible just like Daryl in the Season 6 midseason premiere.
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Postby menime123 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:03 pm

Daryl is pissing me off this season. I reckon he’ll end up banished like Carol was a few seasons ago. Fairly tepid episode - Eugene is a dick but at least he knows it. As bad as Negan has been, I can sort of see why Eugene would throw his lot in with them - they’re surviving (or had been) much better than Rick & co.

Those garbages folk do my head in. They’ve pandered too much to the comic book audience imo as they’re just caricatures - zombies or not, you wouldn’t just suddenly start living in rubbish and talking in riddles.

Anyway, shit about to hit the fan next week by the look of it. I’m expecting at least one big death at some point.
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Postby SeeForever » Tue Dec 05, 2017 12:19 pm

Just what we wanted near the mid-season finale, a Eugene centric episode!! Despite that it was a decent episode, clear his number 1 goal is his own survival and that will be his downfall in the end, though not sure why he didn't give up Dwight, I guess there is still hope for Eugene (has he ever killed anyone? He gave Sasha the pills but didn't force her to take them)

Sadly my fears over Daryl were correct with him deciding his way is the best, no doubt the Saviors have sorted out the zombie problem, seen a preview for the 90 minute mid-season finale, looks like a big stressful finale for Rick and co thanks to Daryl, he could end up getting getting a lot of them killed, Rick's plan was to get the Saviors to give up Negan as the food and water runs low, but no Daryl couldn't wait for that, so annoyed with him now
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Postby Thriller » Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:07 pm

I can see why Daryl just wanted to get shit done but it was unnecessary and I feel bad for the workers who were killed. Rick will be livid! Eugene needs to go, he's a waste of space.
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Postby aaliyahman » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:27 am

This show really lost the momentum it had this season.
Daryl and his impatience will have cost ‘the plan’ yet Rick is just as useless for going to that trash heap and entertaining that idiot. He didn’t need her, the ‘amazon tribe’ were much more useful.

I’m hoping Eugene dies, Negan gets captured and this whole arc is over. I think Negan doesn’t have the charisma and the ‘saviours’ could have been defeated by episode two.
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Postby menime123 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:23 pm

Poor Carl :cry:
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Postby SeeForever » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:08 am

An emotional finale, but they don't half drag it out don't they????

A few things didn't make sense, something happened to Jerry, Rick and Caroline but then they all ended up in different locations??!! That baffled me, also how can Rick and Michonne just waltz back into the remains of Alexandria and the only Saviors they encounter are Negan and some random guy??

Carl stepped up today but that finale, well I never saw that coming, this all goes back to Carl and Siddiq's fight with the zombies in the woods in episode 6
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Postby menime123 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:27 am

SeeForever wrote:An emotional finale, but they don't half drag it out don't they????

A few things didn't make sense, something happened to Jerry, Rick and Caroline but then they all ended up in different locations??!! That baffled me, also how can Rick and Michonne just waltz back into the remains of Alexandria and the only Saviors they encounter are Negan and some random guy??

Carl stepped up today but that finale, well I never saw that coming, this all goes back to Carl and Siddiq's fight with the zombies in the woods in episode 6
Yes, the 3 of them being together then being in completely different places puzzled me a bit, and to drop the trash people so quickly from the Episode was odd.

I really hope they find a way to stop Carl turning, or that Carl is somehow immune. It doesn’t look good though.

I assumed Rick waltzed back into Alexandria because Negan told them all that he wanted to see Rick at Rick’s house, and Rick isn’t to be killed anyway - Negan wants him and the other 2 leaders alive.

I do think the season has picked up though - but in many ways we are exactly where we were in the middle of season 7: Negan’s owning their asses yet again. Still, I think it’s the wrong time to take a break for a few months - be interesting to see if the ratings survive it.
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