This clearly forgettable 90s single.MusicLover88 wrote:So it's between Like a Prayer, Hung Up, Papa Don't Preach, Ghosttown and...?
Ah, maybe it's a grower. I'd at least give it a second chance.JakeP wrote:I never did buy Hard candy so i've never heard this track before. Gave it a listen on YouTube and...well, 4 minutes remains my favourite song i know from the album. I don't mind Devil wouldn't recognise you but for me its far from sounding like a classic Madonna song, and i can see why it wasn't chosen as a single. Sorry Akini.
Glad we can agree that "Rain" is underrated.JakeP wrote:Aww, i quite like Rain although again its not really considered one of her signature tracks. This is more of an underrated gem but when it comes to Madonna ballads, i do prefer some of her others more.
Yay!JakeP wrote:Ok, i'm gonna stand by Akini on this one. Haters shoo!!! Yes, i don't think its an amazing masterpiece but ultimately i don't think its anywhere near as terrible as so many people make it out to be. Personally, i think fans just expected Madonna to always deliver with each new lead single to kickstart the next era and this was ill received. Just a shame it wasn't called Gimme all your luvin' as G.a.y. luvin' would've been a fabulous acronym.
And that would have been PERFECT!!!
I think "Vogue" is one of Madonna's universally accepted gems. Its greatness is difficult to dispute.JakeP wrote:...speaking of fabulous, darling! Vogue really is the crème de la crème of homoerotic pop gorgeousness! Yes, i'm a big fan of this song, easily one of my favourite Madonna singles and would easily be in my top 10 as well. I love the music video, it visual element is the perfect accompaniment to the song. A very clever concept and one that was executed amazingly well.
Yeah, I agree that "Like a Prayer" is a tough act to follow, but "Express Yourself" is a worthy follow-up. I think either Paula Abdul or Cyndi Lauper would have done a decent job with the song, because the song is very much in that bubblegum pop vein that both women did quite well with, but Madonna brings a kind of energy I don't think they would've been able to match.JakeP wrote:How do you follow up the mighty Like a prayer? When the lead single is as culturally groundbreaking as that song was, releasing Express yourself as the follow up was an excellent choice. I don't know who produced Madonna's songs in the 80s but i loved that club dance vibe you get from songs such as this and also heard in Open your heart. It just gives the song a real boost and sells the song tremendously. As for the song itself, its another of those original girl power songs and let's be honest there weren't exactly many other female artists around at the time who could pull this type of song off. Maybe Cyndi Lauper? Love this song although i do prefer Vogue more.
Of course. Express yourself, Jake.JakeP wrote:Looking forward to seeing how the top 5 pans out. Am i allowed to say which song i don't think will be your #1 (because it's too predictable? ).
Well, having a brief recording period doesn't always mean the output will be mediocre. I think some of the best songs ever were composed within 10 minutes. MDNA does have some moments of laziness, especially in the lyrical department, but the songs that are strong are often overlooked. I can understand your frustration, though. I felt exactly the same when Jordin Sparks followed up Battlefield, one of my favourite albums ever, with the tepid Right Here, Right Now.BodyShop wrote:Like i say ,it's always interesting to share opinions about such a diverse discography as Madonna's.
For example ,to my taste, nothing would EVER rank lower than MDNA as it is ,by all means ,her worst record with a handful of her worst ,most uninspired and generic songs to date .
It's clear she only made that album due to contract obligations and how she wasn't into it at all ,for several reasons -the most important one being how long it took her to finish W.E. and still being involved in the final stages of the editing process + promotion.
It's mindblowing to think a perfectionist like Madonna would record a full studio album in aroud 2 weeks. That alone gives an idea of how half-assed MDNA was.
But let me stop being such a bitchy bitter Queen and move on
Bedtime Stories is an interesting case for me.
I love basically all of the songs on it and my favorite Madonna song is in that album as well but for some weird reason,I dont rank it as one of my faves albums.
I feel like you go track after track thinking "that one's cool ,lemme check the next one", then the next one comes and you keep waiiting for that climax to happen ,but it doesn't.
I feel like it's an album that keeps you on the edge of your seat waiting for that magical moment ,but it doesn't come lol
Music is fantastic and unique . American Life is an album that took me years to learn how to appreciate,but I do now.
Ray of Light is a masterpiece and deserving of all the praise it gets. Same for Like A Prayer . When Rolling Stone wrote it's the closest thing pop would ever come to quality, they knew what they were talking about
The first three albums work ,for me ,as a crescendo. It's clear hiw much she evolved as the years passed and how great of an artist she would still be . That's why it irks me whenever someone says her first album is her best like,ok..... Next ,please !
Erotica is superb! The variety of subjects she talks about and how sophisticated the sound is on most of the tracks are is amazing . once again,a huge step forward.
Confessions has been a favorite since the very first listen. Future Lovers ranks within my top 20
Hard Candy is ok. Full of bops kind of album. But can't feel anything really deep. It's very cohesive though and not remotely as bad as some try to make it be,although i can understand where do they come from and give them a pass on that.
Rebel Heart is a pretty solid one. I think that had Interscope agreed with Madonna's idea of releasing a double album -one disk called Rebel for the mid/uptempo songs and Heart for the soft songs /ballads - the reception would've been better.
In spite of anything ,even haters seem to agree it's a step into the right direction for her.
Living For Love, Joan of Arc,Veni Vidi Vici,Rebel Heart,Messiah,Beautiful Scars,Borrowed Time,Addicted,are among my favorites of all time. So,that alone must mean something.
I think Bedtime Stories has an understated beauty that really appeals to me. Even its best track, "Love Tried to Welcome Me," isn't anything really in-your-face. It's wrought with pain and sadness and hopeless despair, and crafted like the saddest poem you've ever read, but it's a slow dance from start to finish.
I definitely disagree that Music is fantastic. None of its tracks cracked my Top 100, and I must admit that it was an album I struggled to get through.
I do agree with you on her first three albums. I think her first album had a few missteps, but more successes than some people give it credit for, the second album was a bit of a sophomore slump, and the third managed to combine all the things that were right with the first two LPs.
Erotica was the most pleasant surprise for me. I didn't expect to like it at all, and it turned out to be one of my favourite albums, with a very special song on it that floored me.
Ah, I didn't know that was Madonna's plan for Rebel Heart! I love the idea. It's like Beyoncé's I Am...Sasha Fierce double disc idea, which worked brilliantly. I do agree that the album was a step in the right direction. Its highs were brilliant.
It wouldn't be a countdown of mine without some controversy, would it?toni_pest wrote:give me all ya luvin bye akini.
I'm glad that you came back.cheapthrills wrote:OK, FINE, I'm back. Curiosity got the best of me and I had to see what craziness was in store for the top 10. I am still not forgiving you for some of your placings though
Anyhow, not sure when I was back here, so just some notes on the top 20:
* Enjoy the love True Blue got - such a great throwback for Madonna and a different style for her (at the time).
* Gosh, I haven't listened to Who's That Girl in forever - seems like that song got lost in the shuffle of her many hits over the years. Maybe I associate this one too much with the goofy movie from which it came to Have to disagree on how it compares to La Isla Bonita, which really does transplant me to the tropics.
*I feel like I'm required to like Holiday because it was her first break-out hit. It's cute and deserves a decentplacement, but it never seems to go anywhere to me. I'd love to sub Burning Up here.
* Sorry/Jump - True standouts on that album and I'm glad they placed so high
* Give Me All Your Luvin' - just no, wyd there? The L U V Madonna chants don't scream charming to me, but are immature and out of place. And M.I.A. just shouldn't be a part of this at all. Look, I cheered when it went top 10 after the Super Bowl because it gave Madonna a top ten for this decade (and possibly final top ten ever. ), but that placement is overrated.
* The list does get redeemed with signature hits Vogue and Express Yourself though. They are both so iconic!
Did the song Supernatural make your list? Guessing not, since I think it was only ever a B side. But it's a regular part of my Halloween mix, so I thought I'd check.
As for the albums countdown, I'd say you nailed that, with the exception of Like a Virgin being so low.
I think "Vogue" and "Express Yourself" are redeeming me sanity-wise.
I have not heard "Supernatural". There are a few songs I ended up missing out, like "American Pie", and "Crazy for You", but none of the forgotten songs would have ended up high anyway. I'll try to check out "Supernatural" later tonight.
Glad that we're more in sync on the albums ranking!