Britney Spears - ...Baby One More Time

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Postby joiPrince_JO » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:48 am

Arguably the most iconic song and video of the past two decades. This will be remembered for years to come.
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Postby RayRay » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:24 pm

First thing by Britney I bought was this cd-single. Still a great song after all these years.
I used to sing in an acapella choir, where we used to sing this song. Even without instruments a great song.
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Postby Guru » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:35 pm

Guru wrote:What song was this :o

After recording and sending a demo tape with an unused song from Toni Braxton, Spears signed a multi-album deal with Jive.
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Postby GetBack » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:42 am

Guru wrote:What song was this :o
After recording and sending a demo tape with an unused song from Toni Braxton, Spears signed a multi-album deal with Jive.
If I'm not mistaken, it was at the time she was looking for demos that could be her lead single and stumbled on the "...Baby One More Time" demo sent to TLC. Britney had a lot of demo tapes from LaFace Records that were intended for Toni Braxton, TLC and many more. She has always been a fan of Toni.

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Postby JSparksFan » Sat Mar 31, 2018 1:58 am

How does an artist storm out of the gate with such a tremendous banger? I still can't fathom that this was her debut single. It's like right off the bat she and her team knew the precise sound and image that best suited her, and they built one hell of a career from this foundation.
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Postby Goldmoney » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:07 am

The wind in this song is so iconic. :cry:
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Postby LotsOfLove » Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:32 pm

JSparksFan wrote:How does an artist storm out of the gate with such a tremendous banger? I still can't fathom that this was her debut single. It's like right off the bat she and her team knew the precise sound and image that best suited her, and they built one hell of a career from this foundation.
The beginning of a legendary pop music career.
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Postby TheRealest » Fri Jun 22, 2018 3:17 pm

Song & video are iconic
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Postby menime123 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 1:33 pm

I can’t believe that’s this was almost 20 years ago. She recorded it in May... imagine 20 years ago, a 16 year old Britney knowing she was about to unleash it onto the world. I wonder if she ever dared dream what happened would.
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Postby MrLeonix » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:38 pm

menime123 wrote:Imagine 20 years ago, a 16 year old Britney knowing she was about to unleash it onto the world. I wonder if she ever dared dream what happened would.
She said that when she heard the song for the first time she knew it was going to be a hit, she really had no doubts that the song was going to open every door for her.

In her own words:

I had been in studio for about six months listening and recording material, but I hadn't really heard a hit yet. When I started working with Max Martin in Sweden, he played the demo for 'Baby One More Time' for me, and I knew from the start it [was one] of those songs you want to hear again and again. It just felt really right. I went into the studio and did my own thing with it, trying to give it a little more attitude than the demo. In 10 days, I never even saw Sweden. We were so busy.

—Spears talking to Chuck Taylor of Billboard.
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Postby menime123 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:58 pm

Everyone dreams of a hit. I’m not sure she expected everything after she had one (because I don’t think she would have done it).
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Postby MrLeonix » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:13 pm

menime123 wrote:Everyone dreams of a hit. I’m not sure she expected everything after she had one (because I don’t think she would have done it).
I think she achieved her dreams, everyone who's followed Britney, read about her life and seen her interviews knows that her dream was always to be a millionaire and she knew "Baby one more time" would change the future for her and her family (which pretty much did), she had a rough time in the middle of her career but now that the calm has arrived after the storm her kids live in luxury, comfort as she and her family live the high life because of "Baby one more time", Britney never wanted to be poor so there's no way she would have not done it.
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Postby menime123 » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:27 pm

She could have had a comfortable life in another career, or even a well off life opening a dance studio and avoided a lot of hurt along the way. Now she’s approaching 40 I’d love someone to ask her about it.
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Postby MrLeonix » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:38 pm

menime123 wrote:She could have had a comfortable life in another career, or even a well off life opening a dance studio and avoided a lot of hurt along the way. Now she’s approaching 40 I’d love someone to ask her about it.
Nah, thats not what she wanted, she didn't want to be just another Louisiana girl. She wanted to be rich and wanted a mansion and she got it, she proclaimed herself Miss American Dream.

What happened to her in 2007 had nothing to do with her entering into fame (she had been famous for almost a decade at that point), it had to do with allowing the wrong people to enter her inner circle, she fell in drugs at that time and everyone knows that.

If she regrets something its probably that, having crossed paths and letting certain people to enter in her life . . . but I don't really think she blames it on "Baby one more time" or goes thinking that she wishes to have not recorded that song, not after knowing how hard she wanted to have that rich lifestyle. The level of satisfaction that woman must feel knowing that her kids have the future secured and all of her family and loved ones will live forever well and financially protected must be one of her greatest feelings.
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Postby GetBack » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:30 am

menime123 wrote:She could have had a comfortable life in another career, or even a well off life opening a dance studio and avoided a lot of hurt along the way. Now she’s approaching 40 I’d love someone to ask her about it.
That's the price one has to pay for being the biggest pop star and icon of her generation. The media frenzy towards her was on a totally different level, even Michael Jackson and Madonna didn't experience that. It's crazy how it's been more than 10 years and Britney is in a far better place in her life now.
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Postby GetBack » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:51 am

‘It was a bit of a blur’: Britney Spears on the making of "...Baby One More Time"
As the smash hit that changed the musical landscape turns 20, Britney, along with her collaborators, discuss the creation of a pop masterpiece


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A teenage Britney sporting the controversial Catholic school girl look in the iconic "…Baby One More Time" video.

DUN DUN DUN. “Oh baby, baby ... ”. In just three seconds "...Baby One More Time", which turns 20 this year, announced the arrival of a new superstar: the then 16-year-old ex-Mouseketeer from Kentwood, Louisiana, Britney Jean Spears. Along with its equally iconic high school-set music video it re-turfed pop, kickstarting an entire sound (think funk-tinged R&B grooves mixed with Abba melodies), sweeping aside the dregs of grunge (sorry, Bush) and US heartland rock (bye, Hootie & the Blowfish), revitalising pop radio and MTV in the process, before cementing its songwriter and co-producer Max Martin as one of modern music’s most influential exponents. In the space of just three minutes and 31 seconds, Spears launched millennial teen pop, fusing family-friendly, girl-next-door fun with good old fashioned controversy, forging a template for those who followed.

Without it, there would by no Christina Aguilera, no Katy Perry, no Charli XCX; Taylor Swift would probably still be singing country songs, and Eminem – who arrived in 1999 – would not have had as much to rail against. Released in the wake of Alanis Morissette’s hugely successful 1995 album Jagged Little Pill and its litany of imitators, it presented a different angle to the prevalent idea of female angst; this was gloriously OTT teen girl longing, encapsulated by a lyric – “My loneliness is killing me” – that feels depressingly evergreen. “The whole song is about that stress that we all go through as teens,” Spears tells me. “I knew it was a great song. It was different and I loved it, [but] I don’t think you can anticipate how a song is going to be received.”

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"...Baby One More Time" was initially sent to R&B girl group TLC (pictured above) but was rejected by the group.

In a Sliding Doors-esque moment that could have changed the world as we know it, "…Baby One More Time" very nearly didn’t get written at all, with the song’s melody bubbling up as Martin was drifting off to sleep. Having hauled himself out of bed to his nearby dictaphone, he sketched out the song. “I remember listening back to [the tape] after [the song] blew up and you can hear me sort of go: ‘Hit me baby one more time’, then I hear myself say, Yeah, it’s pretty good,’” the notoriously interview-shy Martin told Swedish journalist Jan Gradvall in 2016. Martin, convinced he’d written an R&B song (“Pop music with a flavour – what we call R&B in Sweden, what you guys [in America] say is pop,” he said in 1998), sent the song, then called Hit Me Baby (One More Time), to TLC who rejected it. “I was like: ‘I like the song but do I think it’s a hit? Do I think it’s TLC?’ … Was I going to say ‘Hit me baby one more time’? Hell no!” said T-Boz in 2013.

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Swedish singer Robyn (pictured above) had the "...Baby One More Time" demo for a brief period.

While TLC interpreted the lyrics as alluding to domestic violence, they actually represented Martin’s attempts at American slang, believing “hit me” could seamlessly replace “call me”. The song was then offered to fellow Swede, Robyn, whom Martin had already worked with on two US top 10 singles (Do You Know (What It Takes) and Show Me Love, both released in 1997), but again nothing came of it. According to Tim Bower’s 2012 book, Sweet Revenge: The Intimate Life of Simon Cowell, the song had one further dalliance with a pop act other than Britney. The story goes that after hearing Martin’s demo of what had now been renamed …Baby One More Time, Cowell demanded he have the song for his latest boyband, UK rabble Five. Martin had already co-written Five’s debut single, "Slam Dunk (Da Funk)" alongside his mentor, the late Denniz Pop, but declined Cowell’s request, saying it had already been earmarked for Spears. “You’re mad,” Cowell is reported to have said. “No one can be successful with a name like that.” As a last gasp attempt, Cowell offered Martin a new Merc 500SL in return for the song. “It costs £95,000,” he added.

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Simon Cowell attempted to bribe Max Martin to give "...Baby One More Time" to the British boyband 5ive (pictured above).

It was "…Baby One More Time" that convinced Spears of the merits of pop. She initially saw herself as making “Sheryl Crow music, but younger”, while Larry Rudolph, an entertainment lawyer friend of Spears’s mum Lynne who had been tasked with getting her signed (he’s now her manager), had her record a clutch of songs originally recorded by Toni Braxton. It was those recordings that lead to auditions for Mercury, Epic and Jive (the first two labels said no; she signed with the latter) which included Spears covering Whitney Houston’s version of I Will Always Love You. With the more R&B-leaning early material not working, and with a clause allowing Jive to terminate her contract after 90 days if they felt an album wasn’t on the horizon, A&R Steve Lunt approached Martin, who had already delivered success for Jive’s boyband the Backstreet Boys. A meeting was set up with Spears in New York. “I was pretty young at the time, so I was nervous,” she says, “but he was so nice and put me right at ease.” For Martin, his song had finally found its home.

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Britney Spears and Max Martin reunited in Clive Davis's Pre-Grammy Gala in 2017.

From New York, Spears de-camped to Martin’s Cheiron studios in Stockholm to start recording. “I remember being so in awe of Stockholm,” Spears says. “I was out there for, like, 10 days, but we were so busy in the studio I didn’t have time to go out and explore on that first trip.” The song’s co-producer Rami Yacoub remembers Spears as “very shy and super sweet – I mean she was a kid and we had no idea there was a beast of an artist lurking under that innocent look”. The sessions were intense, with four of the album’s five singles recorded in that time. In 2001, Martin referred to the Cheiron sound as “direct, effective, we don’t show off”, words reiterated by Yacoub. “A song that sounds simple is not simple to make. It’s all about the taste and making sure you don’t add more than what the song needs.”

For Spears, working with perfectionists suited her. “I really respect that when I’m working with him,” she says. “I think Max is a genius. It all just came together and felt right. In my opinion Max is the greatest songwriter of all time.”

Another person to witness firsthand this studied effortlessness was Nana Hedin, a backing vocalist who had previously worked with Denniz Pop on songs by Dr Alban, whose 1992 hit It’s My Life soundtracked a Tampax advert in the UK. Pop recommended Hedin to Martin, who brought her onboard for …Baby One More Time. “I remember I thought the song was for teenagers but the production was filled with a grown-up attitude and sounds that I really liked,” she says. “I was so impressed by how a guy like Max could write lyrics that got into the hearts and spoke to the teenage thinking.” Occasionally, Hedin would record her backing vocals first, before the artist arrived, but with …Baby One More Time Spears’s vocals were already recorded. “I tried to sound exactly like her,” she laughs. “It was hard, but a lot of fun. I’m like a parrot in many ways. I try to get the same vibe and use the exact same pronunciation as the artist. In one harmony, each take is different; I sing very high, in another I use powerful belting, the next I’m whispering and sometimes I even pinch my nose for a sharper sound.”

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Britney and Max Martin working on the ...Baby One More Time album in the Cheiron Studios in Stockholm, Sweden in 1998.

With Britney’s vocals recorded in March, and the song finished shortly after (“It took probably around two to three weeks to finish,” says Yacoub), Spears headed out on a summer tour, taking in 26 shopping malls. Aware that they had a potential hit on their hands, Jive sent reps out to meet with the influential US radio programme directors ahead of the song’s October release. “The label guy brought in a video featuring Britney rehearsing dance moves to the song,” remembers Clarke Ingram, then operations manager and program director of New York’s Top 40 radio station WPXY. “This had the desired effect of showing me that Britney had star quality, in addition to having a potential hit record. We went to lunch afterwards, and I committed to adding the song at that time.” In fact, Ingram is pretty sure he was the first person to play the song on US radio. “No other station would have heard it any earlier, and I know of no station that played it before we did.” For Ingram, …Baby One More Time represented the holy grail: a song pop radio could fully own. “We’d been through an alternative cycle in the early to mid-90s, and something of an R&B cycle after that,” he explains. “Britney was among the first big artists in a pop cycle that began in the late 1990s and continued into the early 2000s. The song hit the centre of the Top 40 audience, and it proved that by its performance, both on the air and off.”

The song sold 500,000 copies on its first day of release in the US, eventually peaking at No 1. It reached No 1 in every single country it charted in, and was 1999’s biggest-selling song in the UK with 1.4m copies sold. A megastar had been created seemingly overnight. “I don’t think we understood what we had done,” Martin said in a 2008 Swedish radio documentary. “I remember sitting in the studio when they called me to let me know that my song had made No 1 in the USA … I had so much going on I didn’t really grasp the meaning of it”. He even forgot to tell Yacoub. “Max walked into the studio one day while I was working and said: ‘Hey man, by the way, we are No 1 in America,’” he recalls. “I asked him when it had happened and he said: ‘Three weeks ago.’ We really didn’t focus on charts, we just kept working.” Even celebrations were muted. “It was on a Tuesday, I believe: an early dinner, a cigar, and to bed at 11pm as we had work the next day.”

An iconic song needed an iconic video. Unfortunately, director Nigel Dick’s original concept was deemed a dud by Spears. “I wrote an idea which sucked, so the label put me back on the phone with Britney who told me she wanted to make a video where she was stuck in a classroom thinking about boys and we took it from there,” Dick writes on the harangued-sounding FAQ section of his website. He also states the school uniform look, augmented by plaited bunches and bare midriff, was Spears’s idea too. What seems relatively tame now caused uproar in a bubblegum pop era that, via shows like MTV’s popular Total Request Live, was being fed directly into family homes.

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Britney and boy band *NSYNC in rehearsals for the 1999 MTV Video Music Awards where she performed "...Baby One More Time".

The video, an instant pop culture moment that gave Spears all-important tabloid notoriety, also fused in the public consciousness with David LaChapelle’s controversial 1999 Rolling Stone cover shoot featuring Spears lying on her childhood bed in her underwear clutching a Teletubby. Suddenly, the now turbo-charged teen pop genre had its flag bearer, one whose identity – sweet southern belle in the video for soft-focus follow-up single "Sometimes"; red PVC-clad dominatrix in the “not that innocent” "Oops!…I Did It Again" visual – was malleable enough to, at least initially, be everything all at once. How does Spears feel about the song almost 20 years later? “Wow, that went quick. It was such a fun and crazy time, it was a bit of a blur.”

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Postby Wayne » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:58 am

GetBack wrote:
menime123 wrote:She could have had a comfortable life in another career, or even a well off life opening a dance studio and avoided a lot of hurt along the way. Now she’s approaching 40 I’d love someone to ask her about it.
That's the price one has to pay for being the biggest pop star and icon of her generation. The media frenzy towards her was on a totally different level, even Michael Jackson and Madonna didn't experience that. It's crazy how it's been more than 10 years and Britney is in a far better place in her life now.
I think stick with the first part of your post, because the second part (in bold) doesn't ring true.

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Postby Guru » Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:36 pm

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In this nostalgia in this one pic alone :cry:
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Postby GetBack » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:15 am

Listen to Our Celebration of 20 Years of Britney’s ‘…Baby One More Time’
Rolling Stone Music Now panel also traces the influence of TLC and Soft Cell on Spears’ vocal style


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DA-dun-dun! Twenty years ago this October, a Louisiana-bred, not-quite 17-year-old Mickey Mouse Club vet named Britney Spears released her Swedish fireball of a debut single, “…Baby One More Time” – and the Nineties as we knew them were instantly over. On the latest episode of the Rolling Stone Music Now podcast, Rob Sheffield and Brittany Spanos join host Brian Hiatt to discuss all things Britney. To hear the episode, press play below or download and subscribe on iTunes or Spotify.

Topics include the making of the song, Spears’ initial singer-songwriter ambitions, the rise of Max Martin, rock bands’ infatuation with covering the song, the greatness of “Sometimes,” the glories of the TRL era, Spears’ initial image as what Sheffield describes as a “sex cyborg from Sweden” and much more. Our panel also traces the influence of TLC and Soft Cell on Spears’ vocal style, reminisces about Sheffield’s 2000 interview with Spears (she hated her second album and was desperate for a vacation) and breaks down some all-but-forgotten tracks on her 1999 debut album, from the baffling, dancehall-inflected “Soda Pop” to the prescient dial-up anthem “E-Mail My Heart.”

Download and subscribe to Rolling Stone Music Now, hosted by Brian Hiatt, on iTunes or Spotify, and tune in Fridays at 1 p.m. ET to hear the show broadcast live on Sirius XM’s Volume, channel 106.

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Postby Thriller » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:07 am

I was listening to Slam Dunk (Da Funk) by Five and it really sounds like the template for Baby One More Time. I bet Simon Cowell was gutted not to have been given it.
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Postby Mainshow » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:12 am

Thriller wrote:I was listening to Slam Dunk (Da Funk) by Five and it really sounds like the template for Baby One More Time. I bet Simon Cowell was gutted not to have been given it.
What does Simon Cowell have to do with Five?
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Postby Thriller » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:19 am

Mainshow wrote:
Thriller wrote:I was listening to Slam Dunk (Da Funk) by Five and it really sounds like the template for Baby One More Time. I bet Simon Cowell was gutted not to have been given it.
What does Simon Cowell have to do with Five?
He signed them.
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Postby Mainshow » Thu Sep 13, 2018 11:36 am

Thriller wrote:
Mainshow wrote:
Thriller wrote:I was listening to Slam Dunk (Da Funk) by Five and it really sounds like the template for Baby One More Time. I bet Simon Cowell was gutted not to have been given it.
What does Simon Cowell have to do with Five?
He signed them.
I had no clue he was already involved in signing artists back then. I lowkey loved Five haha
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Postby Thriller » Thu Sep 13, 2018 12:26 pm

They almost got this song after Backstreet Boys and TLC passed on it, but then Britney was flown over to Sweden and the rest is history...
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Postby Guru » Fri Sep 14, 2018 5:37 am

Mainshow wrote:
Thriller wrote:
Mainshow wrote:
Thriller wrote:I was listening to Slam Dunk (Da Funk) by Five and it really sounds like the template for Baby One More Time. I bet Simon Cowell was gutted not to have been given it.
What does Simon Cowell have to do with Five?
He signed them.
I had no clue he was already involved in signing artists back then. I lowkey loved Five haha
I loved 5ive :oops:
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