Goo Goo Dolls - Iris

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Postby topopMAC1 » Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:46 pm

#1 now! :o
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Postby Blondini » Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:52 am

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JimJim wrote:Did this really peak that low in the UK?! :o

Yeah there are plenty 90s classics that very incredibly popular in USA flopped so badly in UK... dunno why really
Because the UK isn't as keen on American rock.

Quite amazed that it's #1! :o

Is someone gonna sort out page one? :lol: And maybe Stay With You should be removed from the thread title now? :D
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Postby jszmiles » Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:32 am

I'd love to see it at the top on Sunday! This song really deserves it!
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Postby jszmiles » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:12 am

#2 in first mids!

It will probably end below top 5 but still huge achievement
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Postby UKMusicLova » Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:46 am

WOW at it being #1 on iTunes! MASSIVE!!
It's one of my favourite songs of the genre! :D
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Postby king_oxymoron » Tue Sep 27, 2011 4:29 pm

I hate that way DigitalSpy have reported this. I know it's 100% down to X Factor but the headline 'X Factor' Frankie Cocozza tops iTunes with Goo Goo Dolls 'Iris' song is so wrong!

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/music/s103/the-x-factor/news/a342462/x-factor-frankie-cocozza-tops-itunes-with-goo-goo-dolls-iris-song.html
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Postby jszmiles » Tue Sep 27, 2011 5:59 pm

omg, his version is just like worse thing that might happen to this song. Pure awfulness :x
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Postby Blondini » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:05 pm

It wasn't just him - another guy did it too (though Frankie will be 80% of the reason). I'm glad it finally got there - it's like Journey again! And it might keep that Loca People tripe off the top.
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Postby urbanmusik » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:09 pm

I only just noticed this was so high on Itunes there now, wow! :o Frankie's performance wasn't even very good. I also never knew this peaked so low over here.
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Postby king_oxymoron » Tue Sep 27, 2011 11:17 pm

Joe's performance was much better
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Postby jszmiles » Wed Sep 28, 2011 11:31 am

Still #2 in mids, but I suppose the distance between them and #1 is getting smaller.
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Postby Blondini » Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:45 pm

Down to 2 on iTunes. Maroon 5 top yet again! (will it ever grab the actual top UK spot? :lol: )
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Postby jszmiles » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:19 am

Blondini wrote:Down to 2 on iTunes. Maroon 5 top yet again! (will it ever grab the actual top UK spot? :lol: )
Oh well, I think it will end:

1. Sak
2. Maroon
3. Goos
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Postby ManicFan2k » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:40 pm

It greatly p**ses me off when a truly great song that I've always loved (purely because it's brilliant) but is something of a 'cult' record

Suddenly someone sings a crappy cover of it on the X-Factor and the mainstream public then take interest and start wanting it. Oh you all like it now don’t you! You didn’t when it was released on its own merit. It had to be used in mass crappy singing contest to get you all to take note of it. It happened with Tracey Chapman's Fast Car and now happened with this. It gets under this musical snobs skin like nothing else.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Rant over. Since downloads have been included in the chart it had popped in the lower 90s a few times anyway.
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Postby jszmiles » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:40 pm

#3 in the end, what a shame - both #1 and #2 can not even be compared to this classic. DAMN!!!!
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Postby jszmiles » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:42 pm

worth to mention that it has climbed 117 places this week in it's 214th week!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Wayne » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:44 pm

ManicFan2k wrote:It gets under this musical snobs skin like nothing else.
Even more than people that purchase lottery tickets?
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Postby Blondini » Sun Oct 02, 2011 6:59 pm

ManicFan2k wrote:It greatly p**ses me off when a truly great song that I've always loved (purely because it's brilliant) but is something of a 'cult' record

Suddenly someone sings a crappy cover of it on the X-Factor and the mainstream public then take interest and start wanting it. Oh you all like it now don’t you! You didn’t when it was released on its own merit. It had to be used in mass crappy singing contest to get you all to take note of it. It happened with Tracey Chapman's Fast Car and now happened with this. It gets under this musical snobs skin like nothing else.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Rant over. Since downloads have been included in the chart it had popped in the lower 90s a few times anyway.
It simply didn't have the exposure before - it was never performed on UK TV in any way. They played the original on the show after two singers performed it so people heard the original version, not just theirs. It hung around the charts for absolutely AGES though - so it could never have been called a flop. It just needed the extra kick that X Factor gave it. You should be happy. I am. I loved it too.

THIS is why Top Of The Pops is needed (though the band ignored the opportunity to appear back in 99).
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Postby Blondini » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:43 pm

04wayne wrote:
Chart runs for: GOO GOO DOLLS
(through August 20, 2011)

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* UK SINGLES *
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    1. IRIS
Written by: John Rzeznik
Produced by: Goo Goo Dolls/Rob Cavallo
Date: 01/08/1998 - Run: 50-79-88-114-151-164-163-146-147-170-197 (11 wks)
Re 01: 10/07/1999: 186-*26*-43-77-95-138-160 (7 wks, 18 wsf)
Re 02: 27/04/2002: 174 (1 wk, 19 wsf)
Re 03: 19/10/2002: 184-175 (2 wks, 21 wsf)
Re 04: 08/02/2003: 184 (1 wk, 22 wsf)
Re 05: 15/12/2007: 199-0-0-0-178-167-152-148-152-143-99-110-107-111-80-81-90-86-90-89-96-99-92-124-142-143-135-157-136-115-87-66-77-100-120-111-84-102-89-71-120-152-160-162-148-163-193-199 (45-44c wks, 67 wsf)
Re 06: 17/01/2009: 143-140-145-158-160-162-177-158-184-196 (10 wks, 77 wsf)
Re 07: 25/07/2009: 196-136-121-134-141-149-140-163-129-153-164-143-133-164-153-158-158-164-0-0-157-0-0-0-0- (96 wsf)
           16/01/2010: 159-151-154-134-140-98-130-134-146-113-99-114-132-156-175-174-141-145-174-175-178 (40-21c wks, 117 wsf)
Re 08: 17/07/2010: 176-175-164-128-120-122-161-141-133-99-152-187-150-155-152-156-0-196-126-148-170-172-187 (22-16c wks, 139 wsf)
Re 09: 26/02/2011: 183-0-0-166-0-0-0-149-191-170-133-144-125-164-0-105-161-163-155-165-160-147-195-197-159-167 (20-11c wks)
Total # of re-entries: 16
Total # of weeks: 159-44c ( Top 75: 5) (US:#9/14/1)
I forgot this had been released THREE times in UK in an attempt to break it. Even a big movie didn't do it.

http://www.chartstats.com/artistinfo.php?id=8575

The 99 entry was a reissue. I forgot that!
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Postby NothingFails » Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:51 pm

I always thought this song was very mediocre and never understood why it was so popular in the US at the time. A lot of other singles from 1998 that would've been better belated UK #1's.
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Postby ManicFan2k » Mon Oct 03, 2011 5:57 pm

Anyone who downloaded it this last week.

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Postby Blondini » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:41 pm

NothingFails wrote:I always thought this song was very mediocre and never understood why it was so popular in the US at the time. A lot of other singles from 1998 that would've been better belated UK #1's.
:o :o It's an example of a perfect rock ballad - everything that Bon Jovi failed to understand in the 90s and 00's - it has guts and real heart to it. I hate the typical cheesy rock ballads - this is one of the alltime best, for me.
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Postby NothingFails » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:02 am

oh, I don't like anything Bon Jovi's done after 1989. In the US Iris put them into that "mom rock" group ala Train, Maroon 5, Nickelback, Creed, Daughtry, latter day Bon Jovi, etc... I much preferred their earlier harder music before the Goo's became a ballad band.
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Postby jszmiles » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:45 pm

didn't lose ground as it was expected, and fell only two spots this week to #5. Well, true classic, many discovered it just now, I suppose.
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Postby jio » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:55 pm

NothingFails wrote:oh, I don't like anything Bon Jovi's done after 1989. In the US Iris put them into that "mom rock" group ala Train, Maroon 5, Nickelback, Creed, Daughtry, latter day Bon Jovi, etc... I much preferred their earlier harder music before the Goo's became a ballad band.
I second that. I used to hate "Iris" back in the day, although it wasn't a big hit in Europe, MTV was playing it so damn often. I never thought this would get a second life. Sadly it did

PS: Bon Jovi are crap now but I would say they became crap after 1991 and not 1989. I actually loved "Keep The Faith" (both album and-especially- song). "Dry County" was another great tune from that album
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