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Postby zeus555 » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:19 pm

I've just found out, that the reason 'I Wonder' was cut from 'Mamma Mia! 2',' is because 'One Of Us' was also
near the start of the Film. The Director felt that it was a 'risk' having '2 unknown ABBA songs', near the start,
so the decision was taken to cut out 'I Wonder'! Completely ignoring the fact, that 'One Of Us' was not 'unknown'
at all! It just was not a big Hit in the USA, and a few other Countries, but it was big in several European Markets,
including No.1 in several, and a No.3 Hit, but 500,000+ seller in the UK. So, it is very stupid for the Film Makers
to call it an 'unknown' ABBA Song! (Which means that they really removed 'I Wonder' for no reason - for a mistake).
'I Wonder' is a 'Bonus' Video Clip on the DVD.

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Postby zeus555 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:50 am

ABBA are releasing a 7 inch White Coloured Vinyl edition of 'Happy New Year' on Friday 7th December.

The 'B' Side is to be the Spanish language version of the Song - 'Felicidad'.

Only 3,000 copies are to be pressed - Worldwide.

Also, from now on the Single will be released as a limited Edition every December, on different coloured Vinyl each Year.

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http://www.udiscovermusic.com/news/abba ... yl-single/

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Postby AndiIversen » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:14 am

zeus555 wrote:I've just found out, that the reason 'I Wonder' was cut from 'Mamma Mia! 2',' is because 'One Of Us' was also
near the start of the Film. The Director felt that it was a 'risk' having '2 unknown ABBA songs', near the start,
so the decision was taken to cut out 'I Wonder'! Completely ignoring the fact, that 'One Of Us' was not 'unknown'
at all! It just was not a big Hit in the USA
, and a few other Countries, but it was big in several European Markets,
including No.1 in several, and a No.3 Hit, but 500,000+ seller in the UK. So, it is very stupid for the Film Makers
to call it an 'unknown' ABBA Song! (Which means that they really removed 'I Wonder' for no reason - for a mistake).
'I Wonder' is a 'Bonus' Video Clip on the DVD.

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That's what I was gunna say! I meannnn calling OOU that :lol: I felt insulted somehow, being one of my fav songs and all
In the end I think it was just a silly excuse :roll:
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Postby zeus555 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:38 pm

Simon Cowell has invited Benny and Bjorn to help to 'coach' Contestants on 'The X Factor'. They will appear
in a forthcoming 'Mamma Mia!' Week on the Show. It will be in late November. To tie-in with the DVD of
'Mamma Mia! 2' being released in the UK etc.

LINK:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/7 ... -x-factor/

'The X Factor' has lost a lot of viewers in recent Years and Simon Cowell is trying to find ways to get the UK Public
interested in it again.

Some of the Articles about Benny and Bjorn appearing on it, are saying that they are going on it due to the BBC
'dropping' the 2 Hour ABBA TV Special, that was to be shown Globally in December.

That is not true. The TV Special is a USA - NBC and UK - BBC 'Project'. It has not been cancelled. It has been delayed.
The 2 situations are not the same at all. The BBC - and NBC - still want to show the ABBA Special. The idea that the BBC
has lost interest in it, is totally untrue.

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Postby zeus555 » Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:08 pm

ABBA were last in the UK Singles Chart in 2008, when 'Mamma Mia' reached No.56 and 'Dancing Queen'
was a No.82 Hit. In both cases, it was due to the impact of the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film.

ABBA can still have UK and International Singles Hits, despite a lack of Streaming, usually holding
back the chances for 'old' Acts to have such Hits.

All that ABBA have to do is to record a brand New Christmas Song and they will re-enter the World's
Singles Charts every December - easily.
Because 'Old' Acts even get loads of Streaming, when it comes
to Christmas Songs. Which is why Mariah Carey, Wham!, Boney M, Wizzard etc. re-enter the UK Singles Chart
every Christmas. ABBA never do. They recorded no Christmas Songs. 'Happy New Year' is never a December or
January Hit in any English speaking Country. It is only about one Day, and it does not hold enough 'Seasonal'
interest to be a Hit. (However, it can still be a Hit in various non-English speaking Countries, such as Sweden,
Germany, Norway and The Netherlands).

'HAPPY NEW YEAR'/'FELICIDAD' WHITE 7 INCH VINYL EDITION - SOLD OUT

I've read that all 3,000 World copies of the White Vinyl 'Happy New Year'/'Felicidad', are already
'Sold Out'. With copies already being 'Pre-Sold' on Ebay for as much as £90...

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Postby zeus555 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:46 am

Cher has 'Tweeted' that these ABBA Songs may be on a 2nd Covers Album.

I've noticed that she cannot always spell some ABBA Titles. (She may get them
right at other times).

I presume that the !?!?!? means that she is unsure of Track 10. (She should really
'get' with Modern Marketing and record 2 versions of her ABBA Albums. One with
10 Tracks and a 'Deluxe' version with 12 to 14 Tracks. This enhances Sales...).

Notice that the Track Lists of the 1st and, (maybe), 2nd Album, are all from
the 2 'Mamma Mia!' Films. The only one not is 'Rock Me', so she does seem
aware of at least one ABBA Song that has Zero to do with the Films. At one
stage she also said that 'My Love, My Life' would be on a 2nd ABBA Album
- if she recorded one.

If I was going to do 'ABBA 2':

Take a Chance On Me

Super Trooper

Money Money Money

I do I do I do

Honey Honey

I Have a Dream

Vousez vous

Does your mother Know

Rock me

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Postby zeus555 » Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:21 pm

The Queen Film is already a bigger Hit than 'Mamma Mia! 2'.

The 'ABBA' Film has taken just under $400 Million - Worldwide - since July. The Queen Film has already
gone past $400 Million and it was only released, in most Countries, in late October and the USA on the 2nd
of November. So it has beaten 'Mamma Mia! 2' in just 1 Month.

We will see if it can reach the $600 Million of the 1st 'Mamma Mia!' Film.

Incidentally, a UK Poll Organisation - YouGov - has done a big UK Survey, of which Groups, the Population
have the most positive and friendly attitude towards. The Top 4 were as follows:

1)... Queen -- 80%

2)... ABBA -- 78%

3)... The Beatles -- 73%

4)... Rolling Stones -- 61%

Freddie Mercury was also Voted the Top Solo Act - 76%.

I do wish that Benny and Bjorn would take better advantage of ABBA's UK popularity, than simply relying on
Films and 'Events, connected with 'Mamma Mia! all the time...

They could team up with Disney and do a huge, spectacular Fantasy Cartoon, with ABBA's original Songs as
the Soundtrack. That would do away with both the awful cover versions and the reliance on the rather weak
'Mamma Mia! Films. A 'Mamma Mia! 3' is not needed, but that does not mean that ABBA's original recordings
cannot be used in a really terrific Cartoon Film.

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Postby zeus555 » Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:45 am

ABBA SONGS ON 'THE X FACTOR'

I didn't watch it, but apparently they only used ABBA Songs for some kind of 10 Minute Medley.

The ABBA Section was in the 2nd half of Saturday's Show. There was no ABBA in the first half.
(This would have been a Simon Cowell trick, to get viewers tuning in to the end of the Show).

The ABBA Songs used were - 'I Have A Dream', 'Thank You For The Music', 'S.O.S.', 'Money, Money, Money',
'The Name Of The Game' and 'The Winner Takes It All'.

The Female Duo sang 'Money, Money, Money' - with a Rap! A lot of viewers were very unhappy
about that. They went on Twitter to ask why Benny and Bjorn were allowing 'The X Factor' to ruin
their Songs.

Bjorn's facial expressions showed that he was not at all impressed with how the Show handled
the ABBA Songs.

WE MAY NOT GET THE NEW ABBA SONGS UNTIL SUMMER 2019...

On Sunday, (24th), Bjorn appeared on Andrew Marr's Political program, on BBC 1.

This is from an Article about it:

Next year ABBA are expected to go back on tour as holograms, which will see them appear as they did in 1979.

Among other things Bjorn said:

Bjorn teased: “We've written a new song and recorded that and this will be sung by those digital twins.

“It's been delayed. It was supposed to be released this autumn, but it will probably be in the beginning of next summer.”

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So, all of a sudden, he only talks as if there is 1 New Song - not 2. Also, that the Song has been pushed back from next
Spring - to next Summer...

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Postby menime123 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 8:40 pm



Something is coming!
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Postby zeus555 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:03 pm

Today there was a growing 'Media Fuss' in the UK, because ABBA have opened a Twitter Account.
The Media - and some Fans - think that ABBA are to make 'An Announcement' about a 2019 Tour.
Of course, ABBA have no intentions of Touring. If it happens, it will be The 'ABBAtars'. Not the 'Real'
ABBA, at all.

However - Could it be a forthcoming ABBA Album?

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-6 ... tdown.html

Bjorn has now repeated that we will not get any New Songs until 'Early Summer 2019'.

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Postby menime123 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:50 pm

Of course they won’t tour - total click bait. But we know ABBA have ‘reformed’ as they have recorded at least 2 new songs.
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Postby jochen » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:05 am

Abba-tar tour of course

I still hope a new Album will come
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Postby zeus555 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:55 pm

Cher has confirmed that she will record a 2nd ABBA covers Album in 2019.

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-ne ... 19__24892/

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Postby jochen » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:52 am

Fans are weird on the German ABBA board.

For decades they wanted new music and now we get and all they do is moan
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Postby zeus555 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:13 pm

Jochen - The 'moaning' of German Fans is because ABBA no longer seem to know what they are doing...

ABBA told us about the New Songs far too early. it was a huge error of judgement. It was all tied into the 'ABBAtars'
Tour starting and being a success. However, they cannot get the 'ABBAtars' working properly, so we now end up with
delay after delay. We cannot hear the New Songs and the 2 Hour TV Special is also delayed.

By the time ABBA finally give us the New Songs - if ever - they will be very old to ABBA, as they recorded them in June
2017. Which means that that the recordings are already 18 Months old - with even more delays to add to that.

I've never known ABBA to be so confused and chaotic about their plans and intentions. It makes it look like they no longer
know what they are doing. That they are very disorganised.

I was wondering - last night - if they might 'Premier' one of the New Songs at the 2019 Eurovision Song Contest - using
the 'ABBAtars' to mime to it. The 'ABBAtars' need not even be on stage. They could be seen in a Video, 'singing' the Song.
ABBA may decide to do that, if they realise that the 'ABBAtars' Tour is going to be delayed for several more Months...

I was hoping that ABBA would use the delays to record a New Album, but that may be far too optimistic.

By announcing the New Songs far too soon, and then delaying them, ABBA have made a great risk of alienating a lot
of their Fans. For a start, I've read many Fan Posts on YouTube, where they say that they think that the 'ABBAtars'
idea is stupid. That they have no intentions of paying 'good money' to see Holograms, when the 4 Members of ABBA
are still alive. They'd rather see the 'Real' ABBA on Tour. If they can't have that, then they certainly won't be going
to see the 'ABBAtars'.

Many ABBA Fans want ABBA to give up the 'ABBAtars' Tour completely, and to just record a New Album. They'd rather
have that, than endless delays of a 'Project' that is of Zero interest to them...The 'ABBAtars' could be used in Promo
Videos, for New Songs, but the Tour idea is a huge mistake.

When I mentioned the negative YouTube Posts in an Email, I had some Fans practically accusing me of lying. They said that
they had not seen any anti-'ABBAtars' Posts, and they wanted to know where I'd seen them. This is because those Fans see
the 'ABBAtars' as a 'fantastic' idea, and they cannot imagine any Fans thinking they are a 'bad' idea...

Some Fans think that I try to cause trouble for ABBA. This is not so. I love ABBA and I never stop thanking them for making
my life better, with their Music. I just do not want the 'ABBAtars' 'Project' to be a huge disaster and flop, with the entire World's
Media watching - and commenting on how ABBA 'Got it terribly wrong'. I do not want ABBA to have such humiliation...

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Postby jochen » Sat Dec 01, 2018 1:17 pm

The ABBAtars will be a success
Just wait

Its live music with ..a huge show with...background singers
Dancers...video projections ...guests..and 4 great holograms. Maybe the best we have seen so far.

Plus maybe re-recorded versions of all their hits..with new instrumental. Complete new. And at least 3 new songs
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Postby RayRay » Sat Dec 01, 2018 4:07 pm

zeus555 wrote:I've just found out, that the reason 'I Wonder' was cut from 'Mamma Mia! 2',' is because 'One Of Us' was also
near the start of the Film. The Director felt that it was a 'risk' having '2 unknown ABBA songs', near the start,
so the decision was taken to cut out 'I Wonder'! Completely ignoring the fact, that 'One Of Us' was not 'unknown'
at all! It just was not a big Hit in the USA, and a few other Countries, but it was big in several European Markets,
including No.1 in several, and a No.3 Hit, but 500,000+ seller in the UK. So, it is very stupid for the Film Makers
to call it an 'unknown' ABBA Song! (Which means that they really removed 'I Wonder' for no reason - for a mistake).
'I Wonder' is a 'Bonus' Video Clip on the DVD.

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Not only is One Of Us a known hit in many countries, also could they have made I Wonder a known and loved song had it been in the movie. :-?
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Postby menime123 » Sat Dec 01, 2018 6:49 pm

They made the right call. The tone of the movie is completely wrong at the start and another solemn song would have been overkill. In terms of ‘One of Us’, surely almost everyone is going to know that because it was on ABBA Gold - it would make much more sense to have cut ‘I Wonder’ as a result of ‘When I Kissed The Teacher’ being much less known.
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Postby zeus555 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:16 pm

Jochen - Ever since ABBA said they'd recorded 2 New Songs, ABBA Fans have speculated about what they may do
with them. How they'd release and promote them etc.

There are also various views on what different Fans would like ABBA to do. I'd like them to just use The 'ABBAtars' to
promote their New Songs in Videos. I cannot see the 'Tour' being a huge success, as I've seen a lot of Fans saying that
they regard such a 'Show' as a 'Con' and a 'Rip Off', because it is not going to be the 'Real' ABBA on Stage. Those Fans
have no intentions of paying money to see what they regard as a farce and a swindle. As such, there is a big divide,
between those Fans who will go to see The 'ABBAtars' and those who will ignore them completely.

A lot of Fans do not understand why 'ABBAtars' should Tour, when all 4 Members of the 'Real' ABBA are still alive. They
feel cheated by such a concept. They really do not care how old ABBA are - they want to see the 'Real' ABBA performing
on Stage. I do not. I know that it would be a disaster and ABBA don't want to do it anyhow. But, I don't want The 'ABBAtars'
Tour either. I think that the 'Touring' idea is a huge error. But, using them in Promo Videos is a good compromise.

Therefore, the 'Tours' will not make as much cash as ABBA & Simon Fuller think, as a lot of Fans will snub it all.

I'd like ABBA to record a New Album. Plus a Christmas Single. ABBA could create a wonderful Christmas Single,
and it would sell again every November to January - to give ABBA a Yearly place in several Countries Singles Charts.
They do not have that place at present. I'd like ABBA to do a Christmas Single, that is as loved as the ones by Wham!
and Mariah Carey. The Wham! one - 'Last Christmas' - is Germany's biggest scoring Hit ever. Mariah's 'All I Want For
Christmas Is You', is in the Top 5 biggest scoring Hits in UK Chart History. ABBA are virtually unknown in the Yearly
Singles Charts, because they never recorded a Christmas Single. I do wish that they'd do one...

I don't expect The 'ABBAtars' to be a big success. Not as an on-going Touring attraction, anyhow. Too many Fans
are against the idea. The Fans who like the idea will not be enough to see it through. It may be a brief success, but
not for very long. The 'Novelty' will wear off very fast...

I do not think that ABBA are having 'trouble' with the New Songs. Benny and Bjorn would never have told us about
them if they'd been inferior, or not quite good enough. I think that the delays are due to ABBA having far more problems
with The 'ABBAtars', than they were expecting. They cannot get them 'right' to act as ABBA did in 1979 - or in any other
Year, for that matter. It is the 'Holograms' that are messing everything up. I wish that ABBA would not tie the release of
the New Songs to such an unstable, untried and unknown group of 'Entities'...ABBA should only have told us about the
New Songs when The 'ABBAtars' were properly 'working'. Now they are delaying things due to not thinking it through.

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Postby jochen » Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:57 pm

Thanks zeuss
Jochen will answer later

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Postby Benny » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:31 pm

menime123 wrote:They made the right call. The tone of the movie is completely wrong at the start and another solemn song would have been overkill. In terms of ‘One of Us’, surely almost everyone is going to know that because it was on ABBA Gold - it would make much more sense to have cut ‘I Wonder’ as a result of ‘When I Kissed The Teacher’ being much less known.
I also think that cutting 'I Wonder' out of the film was the right decision, though the deleted scene which features the song is quite nice:

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Postby zeus555 » Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:57 am

PLEASE NOTE -- Benny has just done a short Video interview. In it he says that the 2 New ABBA Songs are
still not 'mixed' properly. They are 'rough mixes'. He says that 'more vocals' will be added to them - by the
2 ABBA Ladies. As soon as possible. He says that ABBA - 'cannot wait forever' - about these matters.

ABBA were always so careful in their plans. It astonishes me that they announced the 2 New Songs without
finishing them first. As well as the 2 Hour Global TV Special being announced, (for December 2018, and now
for 'Sometime in 2019'), without that even being created.

All of this has created a lot of confusion with ABBA Fans. The more pessimistic Fans are now wondering if the
2 New ABBA Songs will ever be released. As well as thinking that the Global TV Special is never going to be made.

It is really sad and tragic to see such confusion from ABBA after all of these Years.

Some Fans say that there is no use in paying attention to 'The Internet ABBA Fans', who don't want The 'ABBATars'.
They say that such Fans are not representitive of the people who will go to see The 'ABBAtars' Concerts/Tours. That
the 'Project' will be a big success. We will see. I am not Psychic and my doubts about The 'ABBAtars' may be totally
wrong. I would be pleased to be mistaken about the 'Project'. Only time can tell us if ABBA's 'ideas' will be
put into action, and - if they are - if they will succeed. The 'ideas' being the 2, (or more), New ABBA Songs,
the 2 Hour TV Special and The 'ABBAtars' Tour...


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Postby zeus555 » Wed Dec 12, 2018 11:09 pm

In a Video - from Tuesday - 11th December - Benny has confirmed that he and Bjorn do plan
to write a 3rd New ABBA Song for 'The ABBAtars' to 'Sing'. (Mime).

They have not - yet asked Agnetha and Frida if they want to record a 3rd Song, but they feel that
both ABBA Ladies will say 'Yes!', as they all enjoyed recording the other 2 New Songs, so much.

Here is the Link to the 3rd New ABBA Song Interview':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAeDoZMZ7ME

1)... So Benny & Bjorn want to do a 3rd New ABBA Song, because the 1st 2 are now rather 'old'.
They want The 'ABBAtars' to have something totally 'fresh' to 'Sing'. (Mime).

2)... The downside, is that they seem to be linking anything New for ABBA to what The 'ABBAtars'
will 'use'. Rather than focusing on New ABBA Songs for the Fans to be given. This worries me, as
it makes it sound like we will only get the 3 New Songs if The 'ABBAtars' work out and if their 'Tour'
goes ahead.

3)... Like a lot of Fans, I'd rather that ABBA did New ABBA Songs, for we Fans - irrespective of whether
The 'ABBAtars' Project goes ahead...

4)... Also - Why should ABBA do just 3 New Songs? It would only need a few Weeks extra Studio time to
give us an entire New ABBA Album. I'm still hoping that this is what ABBA are really going to do...


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Postby zeus555 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 6:36 pm

ABBA ON UK CHRISTMAS & NEW YEAR TV

The Official Charts Company has done an 'Article' about the UK TV Music Programs, that will be shown this Christmas.

The List covers Saturday 22nd December 2018 to Tuesday 1st January 2019.

There are only 3 ABBA TV Programs in the List. All 3 have been on many times before. I think that the BBC etc.
feel that the UK needs a 'break' from ABBA. The BBC cannot be pleased, that ABBA have 'delayed' the 2 Hour
TV 'Special', that NBC, (USA), were going to make and they, (BBC), were to help to promote. (That's if it has not
now been cancelled altogether, as some sources are saying).

Although there are only 3 ABBA Programs being shown, the Group will obviously be featured in some other Programs.
For example - the one on BBC 4, called 'Ultimate Number Ones'.

A lot of Queen Programs are being shown, due to the 'Bohemian Rhapsody' Film being so big.

The Link -- With the List of Christmas -- New Year TV Programs is here:

https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-ne ... as__25045/

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Postby zeus555 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 7:36 pm

'Happy New Year'/'Felicidad' has entered the UK Vinyl Singles Chart at No.2.

It was released on Friday 7th December.

Only 3,000 were 'Pressed' Worldwide, but a Single only needs to sell a few hundred,
to get into the UK Vinyl Singles Chart.

It is the 1st time that 'Happy New Year' has entered any UK Chart...

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