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Favourite Awards Show Performance

Like a Virgin (VMAs 1984)
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7%
Express Yourself (VMAs 1989)
16
8%
Vogue (VMAs 1990)
40
21%
Sooner of Later (Academy Awards 1991)
16
8%
Bye Bye Baby (VMAs 1993)
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1%
Take a Bow (American Music Awards 1995)
3
2%
Bedtime Story (Brit Awards 1995)
10
5%
You Must Love Me (Academy Awards 1997)
3
2%
Shanti/Ashtangi, Ray of Light (VMAs 1998)
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3%
Music (EMAs 2000)
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4%
Like a Virgin/Hollywood (VMAs 2003)
26
13%
Hung Up (EMAs 2005)
27
14%
Feel Good Inc./Hung Up (Grammys 2006)
11
6%
Living For Love (Brit Awards 2015)
10
5%
Prince Tribute (Billboard Music Awards 2016)
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Other (Please Specify)
4
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Postby CandyShop » Wed Jan 03, 2018 12:50 pm

Shadowplay wrote:^I quote every single word.

Musically speaking, I remember when “Candy Shop” leaked, I thought: “Is she crazy?”
Well, then we had Celebration, Revolver, Luvin’, Radio, that half-a-song called Living for Love and BIM. I cannot expect anything better anymore (nor I expect anything worse than Autotune Baby).
Oh c' mon there so much to dig in on Rebel Heart other than BIM.
LFL is not that great, but not even that bad as u paint it, it wasn't first single material, that was the big mistake for me....... same goes for GAYL.
I agree with u about Celebration and Revolver.

And wait...... Candyshop is such a bop..,. End of!!
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Postby AlphaMale » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:35 pm

KEY9481 wrote:I hope she follows Beyoncé and release a musical film. She definitely can do it.
That was my dream for years, that she would release a visual album! Being her the Queen of visuals it was something I always expected her to do.
Now that beyonce has done it, twice and beautifully done, I think it's more and more distant that possibility!
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Postby MrLeonix » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:42 pm

I would have loved an entire visual album back in the day when she was at her prime and looked her best. A visual album in the 90s or even early 00s would have been one of the greatest visual works ever in music.

Nowadays I don't think a visual album would be the same, her recent videos don't have that much creativity and her face looks weird now , I would be fine with 4 good music videos and thats it.

Westen wrote:I'm not expecting anything from her anymore, if she doesn't have ambition to prove herself once again and show people how it's done then i hope she never does anything again.
Looking at her Instagram profile, it's ugly mess, she obviously doesn't know how to present herself. She has terrible team filled with yes people.

There's nothing she can do now to clean her image and redeem herself. And it seems like she doesn't even care to do it. And that's actually the worst thing that she ever did, because god knows how hard she worked her whole life to achieve everything without big man behind her, and now she's shitting on everything.

As a fan she really left bitter taste in my mouth, she made it embarrassing to admit that you like her. And it's only because of her, not society or ageism. It's her own fault.
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Postby menime123 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:42 pm

The only album I think that would have worked as a visual album would have been Bedtime Stories. A visual album for Erotica would have been too much and a visual album for ROL imo could never live up to the music.
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Postby MrLeonix » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:49 pm

menime123 wrote:The only album I think that would have worked as a visual album would have been Bedtime Stories. A visual album for Erotica would have been too much and a visual album for ROL imo could never live up to the music.
"Ray of light" would have needed really artistic, cinematic and refined music videos to work as a visual album, something Lana del Rey meets some high budget Hollywood Director. The guy who directed the acclaimed "American Beauty" film would have made a hell of a visual album out of "Ray of light".

On the other hand I agree ROL would have failed to live up to the music as a visual album with basic concepts behind its videos.

And All "Bedtime stories", "Music", "American life" and "Confessions on a dancefloor" could have been amazing visual albums :cry:
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Postby Westen » Wed Jan 03, 2018 6:43 pm

MrLeonix wrote:You could be a bit depressing, extreme and radical at times :-?
That's because she reached my breaking point. I think I am now one of those fans that only love classic Madonna, i can totally live without new album, new song, new video. I know that she won't ever deliver something good, she is totally different person now. It's all about money. To think that she is one of the richest artists ever who literally can afford to release everything she wants, film videos just for the sake of it, and she is not doing that. Instead we're looking at cheap videos, and only 3 videos per album this whole century, and apparently she is visual artist. She also started bitching about certain songs not being released, coming from a woman who canceled era when her choice for single wasn't approved. Why? Because she only cares about money now.
Not to mention that she thinks she's edgy because she wears grills and sings about sex. That's probably because her kids called her basic.

Now look at my other fave Tove Lo, she released song called Disco Tits, payed for amazing video, she released visuals for every single song from her last album (Lady Wood), she payed for it without label's support (and they are barely even getting views outside her fans), she's touring as opening act and writing for others because she has to bring money (since she's working for Max Martin, probably as a ghostwriter too), but in return she gets to release music that she wants to without pressure of making it big. Blue Lips (Lady Wood Phase II) didn't even have physical release, but she released 2nd part of the album (Lady Wood), like she wanted to. Her music is not even being sent to radios, she's writing it all by herself and producing it with the help of her friends. It's raw and passionate.
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Postby jio » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:51 pm

Hmm, she has a visual album... there are videos from every song off "Evita".
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Postby Jimshakes » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:00 pm

jio wrote:Hmm, she has a visual album... there are videos from every song off "Evita".
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Postby cindycgy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:06 pm

Westen wrote:
MrLeonix wrote:You could be a bit depressing, extreme and radical at times :-?
That's because she reached my breaking point. I think I am now one of those fans that only love classic Madonna, i can totally live without new album, new song, new video. I know that she won't ever deliver something good, she is totally different person now. It's all about money. To think that she is one of the richest artists ever who literally can afford to release everything she wants, film videos just for the sake of it, and she is not doing that. Instead we're looking at cheap videos, and only 3 videos per album this whole century, and apparently she is visual artist. She also started bitching about certain songs not being released, coming from a woman who canceled era when her choice for single wasn't approved. Why? Because she only cares about money now.
Not to mention that she thinks she's edgy because she wears grills and sings about sex. That's probably because her kids called her basic.

AGREE. :o
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Postby MrLeonix » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:20 pm

Westen wrote:Now look at my other fave Tove Lo, she released song called Disco Tits, payed for amazing video, she released visuals for every single song from her last album (Lady Wood), she payed for it without label's support (and they are barely even getting views outside her fans), she's touring as opening act and writing for others because she has to bring money (since she's working for Max Martin, probably as a ghostwriter too), but in return she gets to release music that she wants to without pressure of making it big. Blue Lips (Lady Wood Phase II) didn't even have physical release, but she released 2nd part of the album (Lady Wood), like she wanted to. Her music is not even being sent to radios, she's writing it all by herself and producing it with the help of her friends. It's raw and passionate.
Its an unfair comparison. Tove Lo won't probably have that same drive, energy and passion after 36 years of career. You're comparing a new artist that has that hunger for success, for making it and achieving her dreams with an artist who's 36 years after her debut.

Madonna also had that same drive Tove Lo is having when she was starting, she would do anything and in fact most artists start that way, they don't give 100% but 200% when they're in their first years and then after they achieve their dreams or become millionaires their drive and passion gradually start to fade, I can guarantee you that Tove Lo won't be that way forever.

If anything we couldn't be more thankful for Madonna, that high 200% giving drive and hunger that new artists have Madonna had it for the first 10 albums of her career in a span of 23 years. Right now she is just lazy because it wasn't simply going to last forever.
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Postby Westen » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:45 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
Westen wrote:Now look at my other fave Tove Lo, she released song called Disco Tits, payed for amazing video, she released visuals for every single song from her last album (Lady Wood), she payed for it without label's support (and they are barely even getting views outside her fans), she's touring as opening act and writing for others because she has to bring money (since she's working for Max Martin, probably as a ghostwriter too), but in return she gets to release music that she wants to without pressure of making it big. Blue Lips (Lady Wood Phase II) didn't even have physical release, but she released 2nd part of the album (Lady Wood), like she wanted to. Her music is not even being sent to radios, she's writing it all by herself and producing it with the help of her friends. It's raw and passionate.
Its an unfair comparison. Tove Lo won't probably have that same drive, energy and passion after 36 years of career. You're comparing a new artist that has that hunger for success, for making it and achieving her dreams with an artist who's 36 years after her debut.

Madonna also had that same drive Tove Lo is having when she was starting, she would do anything and in fact most artists start that way, they don't give 100% but 200% when they're in their first years and then after they achieve her dreams or become millionaires their drive and passion gradually start to fade, I can guarantee you that Tove Lo won't be that way forever.

If anything we couldn't be more thankful for Madonna, that high 200% giving drive and hunger that new artists have Madonna had it for the first 10 albums of her career in a span of 23 years. Right now she is just lazy because it wasn't simply going to last forever.
I know, i understand that, but i always thought she was smarter than this.

It all went down when she left Warner and signed that deal with Live nation.

I can't name one good thing that she did in the last 10 years. She even managed to ruin SuperBowl with terrible guests and disgusting new song.

Weather we liked HC era or not she was still one of the biggest artists out there, 10 years ago she was basically riding high and now she managed to ruin everything that she worked on up until that point. Her image and artistry is ruined to the point of no return, no one sees her today as an artist. She's nothing but a joke, and she doesn't even realize that, she's blaming ageism for that.

Look at Mariah for example, she realized where she was, fired whole team, got her new team, got new high profile gigs, she brought class to her style, diva antics are fading etc. She's rebuilding her image.

What's Madonna doing? Spamming IG with MDNA skin.
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Postby MrLeonix » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:00 pm

Westen wrote:I know, i understand that, but i always thought she was smarter than this.

It all went down when she left Warner and signed that deal with Live nation.

I can't name one good thing that she did in the last 10 years. She even managed to ruin SuperBowl with terrible guests and disgusting new song.

Weather we liked HC era or not she was still one of the biggest artists out there, 10 years ago she was basically riding high and now she managed to ruin everything that she worked on up until that point. Her image and artistry is ruined to the point of no return, no one sees her today as an artist. She's nothing but a joke, and she doesn't even realize that, she's blaming ageism for that.

Look at Mariah for example, she realized where she was, fired whole team, got her new team, got new high profile gigs, she brought class to her style, diva antics are fading etc. She's rebuilding her image.

What's Madonna doing? Spamming IG with MDNA skin.
I understand, as sad as it may sound I don't even know if she did something "amazing" in the last 10 years, probably the SuperBowl show for me, but thats it.

However I don't think she reached Mariah's low levels either, or at least she hasn't reached such levels yet. Mariah literally became a joke doing reality TV and let her fiasco get her on stage in the many disastrous performances she pulled in the last years. Madonna is lazy, repetitive, tiring and non-creative these days but she kept it professional every time she stepped on a stage always putting on good shows by not bringing her lazyness to the stage at least.

I feel like Madonna and her manager don't know how to market her career these days (and I don't mean the charts) but her public persona / image. She needs Celine Dion's public image's team and Cher's plastic surgeon's number because her face is also starting to give me Priscilla Presley teas.
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Postby RHpoz » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:15 pm

Looking at her Instagram, she must be very desperate these days..
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Postby Westen » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:16 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
Westen wrote:I know, i understand that, but i always thought she was smarter than this.

It all went down when she left Warner and signed that deal with Live nation.

I can't name one good thing that she did in the last 10 years. She even managed to ruin SuperBowl with terrible guests and disgusting new song.

Weather we liked HC era or not she was still one of the biggest artists out there, 10 years ago she was basically riding high and now she managed to ruin everything that she worked on up until that point. Her image and artistry is ruined to the point of no return, no one sees her today as an artist. She's nothing but a joke, and she doesn't even realize that, she's blaming ageism for that.

Look at Mariah for example, she realized where she was, fired whole team, got her new team, got new high profile gigs, she brought class to her style, diva antics are fading etc. She's rebuilding her image.

What's Madonna doing? Spamming IG with MDNA skin.
I understand, as sad as it may sound I don't even know if she did something "amazing" in the last 10 years, probably the SuperBowl show for me, but thats it.

However I don't think she reached Mariah's low levels either, or at least she hasn't reached such levels yet. Mariah literally became a joke doing reality TV and let her fiasco get her on stage in the many disastrous performances she pulled in the last years. Madonna is lazy, repetitive, tiring and non-creative these days but she kept it professional every time she stepped on a stage always putting on good shows by not bringing her lazyness to the stage at least.

I feel like Madonna and her manager don't know how to market her career these days (and I don't mean the charts) but her public persona / image. She needs Celine Dion's public image's team and Cher's plastic surgeon's number because her face is also starting to give me Priscilla Presley teas.
Mariah def reached lower point, but she realized that, and she started cleaning mess that she made. Last few months have been the best months for Mariah probably since mid 00s, everything is working for her now, from great looks to her team hyping her up and praising her in press, giving her good word of mouth. Madonna never does that, she never uses her accomplishments in her advance, instead of reminding people why is she the biggest she reminds them that she is desperate hasbeen with her antics.
Madonna is only sinking lower and lower and i don't see her recovering, she only has die hard stans now, you know, those loudest ones who would call her burp the best song in years!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!
Everything is mess, from her online persona, to press, her catalog being forgotten and not pushed at all on Spotify and youtube, her image, from once upon a time fashion queen to cheap ugly looks.

Oh god i just googled that face and it's actually scary how much Madonna looks like her, i am seriously afraid of her next era, she not only gained a lot of fat since RHT ended but her face got even worse. She really has terrible genes and she's aging very bad.
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Postby MrLeonix » Wed Jan 03, 2018 9:29 pm

Westen wrote:Everything is mess, from her online persona, to press, her catalog being forgotten and not pushed at all on Spotify and youtube, her image, from once upon a time fashion queen to cheap ugly looks.
She needs a new team, I understand why she is lazy after all of these years, but that doesn't justify the horrible way her catalog, image, and streaming are treated. They only care about Touring.

Westen wrote:Oh god i just googled that face and it's actually scary how much Madonna looks like her, i am seriously afraid of her next era, she not only gained a lot of fat since RHT ended but her face got even worse. She really has terrible genes and she's aging very bad.
Lets not exaggerate either, Madonna does have great genes, she was looking like this at freaking 47:



She was definately ageing great and on the right track ..... What simply happened recently is that she stopped caring of herself in the last few years and of course all that plastic surgery she's put in her face is not helping either. I'm not against plastic surgery but I think she's using a really bad doctor.
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Postby BodyShop » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:05 pm

It's a shame this thread is no lomger a place to relax and have nice conversations .
So much negativity. Again,a shame. Really sad,honestly.
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Postby AlphaMale » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:59 pm

BodyShop wrote:It's a shame this thread is no lomger a place to relax and have nice conversations .
So much negativity. Again,a shame. Really sad,honestly.
Exactly.... That's why I don't come here more often. There's opinions and then there's this...

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Postby AlphaMale » Wed Jan 03, 2018 11:04 pm

Madonna`s doing whatever the fck she wants, like she always does and seems very happy.
I'm glad that she's happy because she has made me happy a lot of times over 5he last 30 years.
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Postby spiritboy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:51 am

I really hope she still has some passion for music left in her, last three eras were very disappointing in terms of albums. I need another great album like Music.
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Postby madgikman » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:06 am

You guys are being way to harsh. Give the woman a break. I swear her fans are her harshest critics. I know people are entitled to their opinions, but it's just plain mean to attack her looks. IMO she's released some great music over the past decade. She gave us so much with Rebel Heart. MDNA isn't at the top of my list, but I do enjoy it.
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Postby AlphaMale » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:24 am

jio wrote:Hmm, she has a visual album... there are videos from every song off "Evita".
So true!!!
What a trendsetter she is :D :D :D :D :D
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Postby AlphaMale » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:25 am

madgikman wrote:You guys are being way to harsh. Give the woman a break. I swear her fans are her harshest critics. I know people are entitled to their opinions, but it's just plain mean to attack her looks. IMO she's released some great music over the past decade. She gave us so much with Rebel Heart. MDNA isn't at the top of my list, but I do enjoy it.
Even Hard Candy and MDNA have true gems in them! And I'm talking about what really matters, the music!
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Postby madgikman » Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:09 pm

AlphaMale wrote:
madgikman wrote:You guys are being way to harsh. Give the woman a break. I swear her fans are her harshest critics. I know people are entitled to their opinions, but it's just plain mean to attack her looks. IMO she's released some great music over the past decade. She gave us so much with Rebel Heart. MDNA isn't at the top of my list, but I do enjoy it.
Even Hard Candy and MDNA have true gems in them! And I'm talking about what really matters, the music!
Oh yes Hard Candy is a solid album. It's funny, I think I listen to HC,MDNA & RH more than the earlier material.
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Postby AlphaMale » Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:30 pm

I usually hear random tracks from every album, but wake up everyday to the sound of Live To Tell.
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Postby RayRay » Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:55 pm

She released some of my favorite tracks in the last ten years. As well as some of her best videos.
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