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Postby NoAngel » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:08 pm

To add to NF case. This is Jem's version and to say Madonna didn't add anything is some serious understatement.

https://youtu.be/zmpE0mv8P9w

About her songwriting abilities - She wasn't credited on some of her biggest hits and I'm sure she could get a credit if she wanted to. But to say that her input is limited to changing one or two lines is an insult to her. Many of her collaborators explaind writing and recording sessions with her in detal, so if someone's interested there's a bunch of such material on the internet.
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Postby melodious » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:00 pm

MrLeonix wrote:Yes I have. What I said is that for the Orbit tracks she didn't have much musical input. I wasn't talking about the other Nowels tracks she did.
MrLeonix wrote:Also there are entire albums she didn't have as much musical input as most fans believe, for example for "Ray of light" her contribution was just lyrical (which is great BTW) but she didn't have any input in the music, melodies, and sound for most of the ROL album, all the music, instrumentals, production and melodies were done and ready before she even started recording, William Orbit sent her a tape with 13 tracks with instrumentals and music ready she didn't have to do anything musically-wise, she would just fit lyrics over the music and brilliant sound that was already created and composed for her.
This is one of the original 13 tracks William Orbit created and sent to Madonna. It's very very far from the finished "Candy Perfume Girl" on the CD. In fact it is a very basic instrumental, without melodies to be sung. How could Madonna write ONLY lyrics to this kind of instrumental?



Next one, this is the demo for "Drowned World".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwyjqtz6EJs

Does it have the same melodies as we hear on the album version? Sounds very much finished, doesn't it?
William was like: Okay Madonna, this song is done, put your lyrics and sing it!

So, no no, Madonna contributed a lot to Ray of Light, melodically and lyrically.
Williams hugely contributed to the album's "sounds"... oh sorry, it's indeed his sound, not Madonna's.
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Postby CandyShop » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:37 pm

Such a criticism from a Britney fan: what an insult :o :roll:
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Postby MrLeonix » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:47 pm

The funny thing is that most people here don't realize Madonna is actually my #1 female fave. Ask every person that has run a females countdown thread in here and they'll tell you that I've always Madonna as my #1 and Britney always #2. :)

So yep, I'm not just a Britney fan. I'm a fan of many artists and Rock music and Madonna is my #1 female and hell yeah can give criticism whatever the hell I want. :wink:
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Postby spiritboy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:12 pm

Can't you guys discuss something without attacking other artists?
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Postby AlphaMale » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:29 pm

QueenMadonna wrote:Top 10 biggest audience of Madonna's single shows in world tours (from 2001 to 2016)

Rank - City - Country - Attendance - Tour - Year

1. Helsinki - Finland - 85,354 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
2. Horses - Denmark - 85,332 - Confessions Tour - 2006
3. Warsaw - Poland - 79,343 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
4. Athens - Greece - 75,637 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
5. Lisbon - Portugal - 75,000 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
6. London - England - 73,349 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
7. Tallinn - Estonia - 72,067 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
8. Quebec - Canada - 70,569 - MDNA Tour - 2012
9. Zurich - Switzerland - 70,314 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
10. Bucharest - Romania - 69,088 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009

Source: Billboard Boxscore
Although you're becoming one of my favorite posters here, I have to tell that there are a few shows missing from that list.
Especially the one in Maracanã stadium in Rio with over 115k people in attendance.

Edit : sorry I didn't see the dates :wink:
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Postby spiritboy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:30 pm

Can anyone post top 10 most grossing shows in Madonna touring history?
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Postby AlphaMale » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:32 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
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MrLeonix wrote:^ What other users? The only one who is posting like crazy is you :lol:
Come back here when Ms. Spears to get a number one on UK album chart 8-)
You chill and don't laugh that much that I already sent Wayne a PM yesterday telling him that you are "Materini" .. :)
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Postby AlphaMale » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:34 pm

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Postby AlphaMale » Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:35 pm

CandyShop wrote:Such a criticism from a Britney fan: what an insult :o :roll:
:D :D :D
Be nice :wink:
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Postby QueenMadonna » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:16 pm

spiritboy wrote:Can anyone post top 10 most grossing shows in Madonna touring history?
Rank - City - Country - Revenue - Tour - Year

1. Helsinki - Finland - $12,148,455 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
2. London - England - $11,796,540 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
3. Horses - Denmark - $11,435,199 - Confessions Tour - 2006
4. Athens - Greece - $9,030,440 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
5. Vienna - Austria - $8,140,858 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
6. Quebec - Canada - $8,098,292 - MDNA Tour - 2012
7. Porto Alegre - Brazil - $7,578,191 - MDNA Tour - 2012
8. Werchter - Belgium - $7,190,295 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
9. Amsterdam - Netherlands - $6,717,734 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
10. London - England - $6,714,027 - MDNA Tour - 2012

Source: Billboard Boxscore

Just single shows from DWT to RHT :D
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Postby QueenMadonna » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:26 pm

AlphaMale wrote:Although you're becoming one of my favorite posters here
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Postby spiritboy » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:43 pm

QueenMadonna wrote:
spiritboy wrote:Can anyone post top 10 most grossing shows in Madonna touring history?
Rank - City - Country - Revenue - Tour - Year

1. Helsinki - Finland - $12,148,455 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
2. London - England - $11,796,540 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
3. Horses - Denmark - $11,435,199 - Confessions Tour - 2006
4. Athens - Greece - $9,030,440 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
5. Vienna - Austria - $8,140,858 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
6. Quebec - Canada - $8,098,292 - MDNA Tour - 2012
7. Porto Alegre - Brazil - $7,578,191 - MDNA Tour - 2012
8. Werchter - Belgium - $7,190,295 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
9. Amsterdam - Netherlands - $6,717,734 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
10. London - England - $6,714,027 - MDNA Tour - 2012

Source: Billboard Boxscore

Just single shows from DWT to RHT :D
Thanks :D

Istanbul barely missed the list i guess. They could've easily added a second date and that would've been a sold out show too.
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Postby QueenMadonna » Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:58 pm

spiritboy wrote:
QueenMadonna wrote:
spiritboy wrote:Can anyone post top 10 most grossing shows in Madonna touring history?
Rank - City - Country - Revenue - Tour - Year

1. Helsinki - Finland - $12,148,455 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
2. London - England - $11,796,540 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
3. Horses - Denmark - $11,435,199 - Confessions Tour - 2006
4. Athens - Greece - $9,030,440 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
5. Vienna - Austria - $8,140,858 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
6. Quebec - Canada - $8,098,292 - MDNA Tour - 2012
7. Porto Alegre - Brazil - $7,578,191 - MDNA Tour - 2012
8. Werchter - Belgium - $7,190,295 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2009
9. Amsterdam - Netherlands - $6,717,734 - Sticky and Sweet Tour - 2008
10. London - England - $6,714,027 - MDNA Tour - 2012

Source: Billboard Boxscore

Just single shows from DWT to RHT :D
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Istanbul barely missed the list i guess. They could've easily added a second date and that would've been a sold out show too.
Yeah. Istanbul's show grossed $6,219,598
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Postby MrHat » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:31 pm

what about ?

Gothenburg Sweden Ullevi Stadium 119,709 / 119,709 $14,595,91

Sticky and sweet tour 2009
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Postby MrHat » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:37 pm

And also
Zürich Switzerland Militärflugplatz Dübendorf 70,314 / 70,314 $11,093,631
Sticky and Sweet tour - 2008
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Postby Westen » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:39 pm

MrHat wrote:And also
Zürich Switzerland Militärflugplatz Dübendorf 70,314 / 70,314 $11,093,631
Sticky and Sweet tour - 2008
He's been posting fake, irrelevant news for some time now. Let's ignore him.
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Postby QueenMadonna » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:41 pm

MrHat wrote:what about ?

Gothenburg Sweden Ullevi Stadium 119,709 / 119,709 $14,595,91

Sticky and sweet tour 2009
My list is about only single shows. That numbers are two shows :wink:
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Postby QueenMadonna » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:42 pm

MrHat wrote:And also
Zürich Switzerland Militärflugplatz Dübendorf 70,314 / 70,314 $11,093,631
Sticky and Sweet tour - 2008
I forget it :oops:
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Postby QueenMadonna » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:43 pm

Westen wrote:
MrHat wrote:And also
Zürich Switzerland Militärflugplatz Dübendorf 70,314 / 70,314 $11,093,631
Sticky and Sweet tour - 2008
He's been posting fake, irrelevant news for some time now. Let's ignore him.
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Postby MrHat » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:46 pm

QueenMadonna wrote:
MrHat wrote:what about ?

Gothenburg Sweden Ullevi Stadium 119,709 / 119,709 $14,595,91

Sticky and sweet tour 2009
My list is about only single shows. That numbers are two shows :wink:
oh Sorry my bad.
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Postby MrHat » Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:52 pm

i just came across this from The Rebel Heart Tour
Macau Studio City Event Center 7,446 / 7,446 $8,265,771

That makes the average price paid per ticket to be about $1110. That's just insane !!!!!!!
Are there any other shows with the same numbers?
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Postby QueenMadonna » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:02 pm

MrHat wrote:i just came across this from The Rebel Heart Tour
Macau Studio City Event Center 7,446 / 7,446 $8,265,771

That makes the average price paid per ticket to be about $1110. That's just insane !!!!!!!
Are there any other shows with the same numbers?
They're the highest price paid per ticktes for Madonna's shows ever :o
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Postby menime123 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:21 pm

MrLeonix wrote:The funny thing is that most people here don't realize Madonna is actually my #1 female fave. Ask every person that has run a females countdown thread in here and they'll tell you that I've always Madonna as my #1 and Britney always #2. :)

So yep, I'm not just a Britney fan. I'm a fan of many artists and Rock music and Madonna is my #1 female and hell yeah can give criticism whatever the hell I want. :wink:
Then you need to come in here more often... just try not to piss off the regulars :lol:

I’m a huge Britney fan too. She is very obviously a huge Madonna fan herself, but what I like about that is she is inspired by Madonna in the right way... unlike others.
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Postby RayRay » Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:26 pm

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