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Favourite Album

Off The Wall
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3%
Thriller
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18%
Bad
6
15%
Dangerous
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44%
HIStory
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10%
Invincible
4
10%
Other
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Postby Musicology » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:11 pm

Dangerous is Michael's best album and it spelled an end to a run of 4 consecutive great albums. Unlike MJ's previous albums, Dangerous had a nice flow from start to finish. It was also Michael's most social album. MJ explored quite a few themes on the album such as racism, world peace, media lies, adultery, sex, loneliness, suicide, losing someone. Michael was at his peak as a songwriter and as a vocalist on the Dangerous album. Just a shame it doesn't get much recognition from the general public. :(
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Postby Guru » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:59 pm

Dangerous. HIStory was damn good but Dangerous edges it for me.
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Postby menime123 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:06 pm

Guru wrote:
OMG what a sell out :lol:
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Postby Musicology » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:59 pm

Hopefully we will get something for Michael's 60th birthday but knowing his estate, it's unlikely. :(
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Postby menime123 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 9:00 pm

Musicology wrote:Hopefully we will get something for Michael's 60th birthday but knowing his estate, it's unlikely. :(
We are overdue another album.
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Postby Musicology » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:15 pm

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Musicology wrote:Hopefully we will get something for Michael's 60th birthday but knowing his estate, it's unlikely. :(
We are overdue another album.
We are. It's been over 4 years since Xscape. I don't know what MJ's estate are waiting for. There are more than enough songs for a few more albums.
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Postby Yoshie » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:00 am

menime123 wrote:HIStory gets boring after the first few songs.
No, NO and NO. :lol:

It's not his most instant offering, and it has a unique place in his discography in that it's his most personal and soul bearing collection of songs; the angry, foreboding tone in a lot of the material was unlike anything we'd heard on his previous albums, as well as the few that came after it, for that matter. Musically it's also a very diverse offering of songs, and it gives us a taster of the classical album from Michael that we never received with songs such as Childhood, Little Susie and his cover of Smile (a poignant choice for the closing track on such an aggressive set of songs). It's not an easy album to enjoy, but boring is the totally wrong word in my opinion.
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Postby Mugen » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:23 pm

Musicology wrote:
menime123 wrote:
Musicology wrote:Hopefully we will get something for Michael's 60th birthday but knowing his estate, it's unlikely. :(
We are overdue another album.
We are. It's been over 4 years since Xscape. I don't know what MJ's estate are waiting for. There are more than enough songs for a few more albums.
You would hope they would capitalize on Drake using a sample of an unreleased MJ song to release an album in the Fall(with said unreleased song).
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Postby KEY9481 » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:32 am

5.05.2009 / 6.22.2011 / 4.24.2013 / 4.25.2013 / 3.1.2014 / 9.13.2014 / 7.21.2016 / 7.14.2018 / 7.15.2018
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Postby Erotica » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:11 am

Why is there a video now after all these years?
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Postby jochen » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:12 am

It was there already in 2010
Nothing new.
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Postby Musicology » Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:01 pm

jochen wrote:It was there already in 2010
Nothing new.
Why wasn't it put up on his channel in 2010? Why now?
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Postby jochen » Tue Aug 14, 2018 3:50 am

Dont know.
It was out since 2013 and got great Reviews.

It was Filmed in 2011 Bit the relessed the silly low Budget Video instead
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Postby Guru » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:29 pm

I expected history to be rewritten. Just not like this :cry:

Post Malone Broke a 34-Year Michael Jackson Record. How?

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Michael Jackson had to give up a little bit of space on his throne this week, when Post Malone broke a record that The King of Pop held for 34 years. The 23-year-old rapper whose name has crept slowly and then very rapidly into the mainstream in recent years just saw his album Stoney spend its 77th week in the top 10 of Billboard‘s Top R&B and Hip-Hop Albums chart — beating out the 76 triumphant weeks that Michael Jackson’s Thriller spent up there in the Eighties.

It’s not a one-off. Malone’s second album Beerbongs & Bentleys is the top-performing full-length album of 2018 so far, according to the mid-year report Nielsen released last month. That album also broke a Billboard Hot 100 record previously held by the Beatles; before Drake dropped his oversized album Scorpion, Malone’s Beerbongs reigned supreme with the biggest streaming records on Spotify and other digital platforms. As this week’s record indicates, tracks from the 2016 Stoney are also still being consumed today, which marks an unusually long tail in the fast-paced streaming era.

But while Thriller and Jackson were wildly popular in their time – not just with one demographic but across a variety of them – Malone’s milestones have come tagged with widespread disapproval from audiences, critics and media. The common complaint: Malone doesn’t take his music seriously, or his genre, or himself, at a detriment to others around him striving more genuinely for success. Born Austin Richard Post, his name came from an online rap-name generator; he once caused uproar when he told GQ that being a white rapper is a unique “struggle,” and then again when he said to an interviewer in Poland that “if you’re looking to think about life, don’t listen to hip-hop.”

Much of Malone’s appeal comes from that tongue-in-cheek attitude itself, which attracts people looking for something new while simultaneously alienating others who find it jarring. “Post is an artist who doesn’t do genre lines — he makes music he likes and expresses ideas he’s feeling,” Cheryl Paglierani, Malone’s agent, tells Rolling Stone, adding that fans have been hooked by Malone’s immediately-apparent lack of pretense. “It boils down to who the artist is as a person. The imaging and branding they’ve built for themselves. I don’t know if there’s a way to make sure it’s real. I think it just is or it isn’t.”

Numbers outside of the charts back that up. Colin Lewis, Live Nation’s vice president of touring, says the rapper’s most recent tour sold more than 350,000 tickets, including two back-to-back sold-out nights at the 17,000-capacity Hollywood Bowl. “This kind of explosive debut from a young artist is unprecedented,” Lewis tells Rolling Stone. Paglierani says she was “very confident, but it was still a surprise how quickly it went out of the gate,” and that the team is currently building out an even bigger world arena tour.

Yet Malone’s authenticity-in-inauthenticity appeal (the rapper acknowledges his critics with remarkable self-awareness, doing things like writing on Twitter that people “just think I’m ugly and smell lol”) is also supplemented by the fact that popularity in the streaming age doesn’t always mean actual approval. When albums don’t individually “cost” anything because users pay a set monthly rate for all-access listening, racking up a lot of numbers and chart positions isn’t necessarily an indicator of people loving music; it’s much more a signal that it’s caught people’s attention. That attention might later funnel some people into a loyal fanbase, but the first category is inevitably larger than the second — which is why Malone is king of all sorts of streaming records but hasn’t gotten to stadium-playing size just yet.

The ever-roiling controversy around the rapper is exactly what’s helped him shoot to the top of the charts and upend big names like Jackson and the Beatles, who got there with much more uniform support. Lindsay Zoldaz of The Ringer recently suggested he has been successfully “packaging something that’s a little bit more controversial and confrontational in a friendlier pop package.” Or perhaps he promotes the appealing-in-a-novel-way “ability to be anything to anyone, at the price of completely losing grip on who you actually are,” Larry Fitzmaurice mused in a Vulture piece this summer titled “What If Post Malone Is Here Forever?”

There’s still something to be said about the allure of that rootlessness, especially at a time when most other artists in the mainstream seem to be concerned about the opposite. On October 28th, Malone will host the first annual “Posty Fest”: a music festival, curated by the artist, taking place at an amphitheater in Dallas. Tickets sold out within two hours, without the announcement of a lineup.
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Postby menime123 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:32 pm

All chart stats are made to be broken imo. I just don’t think people thought certain stats would ever be beaten, but streaming has turned the entire industry on its head... which isn’t a bad thing.
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Postby Guru » Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:56 pm

It’s bound to happen over time, but I’d expect a quality artist to replace a quality artist record. Post Malone is artist of the moment. His music targets a very specific audience. MJ crossed barriers. He garnered support from pop, rock, urban crowds, across ethnicities, and even generations. How many 50 year olds listen or like Post Malone? How many rock lovers like his music?

Just saying.
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Postby menime123 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:38 pm

Guru wrote:It’s bound to happen over time, but I’d expect a quality artist to replace a quality artist record. Post Malone is artist of the moment. His music targets a very specific audience. MJ crossed barriers. He garnered support from pop, rock, urban crowds, across ethnicities, and even generations. How many 50 year olds listen or like Post Malone? How many rock lovers like his music?

Just saying.
But in the 80s, how many 50 year olds were listening to MJ? Quality is always subjective - who is to say Post Malone won’t be around in 30 years?

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t disagree with you but subjectively speaking it is what is what it is. We can’t complain about how stale and irrelevant the charts have become, then moan when things start to happen on them.
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Postby Musicology » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:55 pm

Sad when someone like Post malone breaks MJ's records. Another overrated artist. Records are meant to be broken and if someone like Bruno Mars broke this record, I would have been happy for him because he is supremely talented. But post malone? You have got to be kidding me. Seriously, Americans have no taste in music anymore.
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Postby Erotica » Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:07 am

Musicology wrote:Sad when someone like Post malone breaks MJ's records. Another overrated artist. Records are meant to be broken and if someone like Bruno Mars broke this record, I would have been happy for him because he is supremely talented. But post malone? You have got to be kidding me. Seriously, Americans have no taste in music anymore.
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Postby Guru » Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:21 pm

Erotica wrote:
Musicology wrote:Sad when someone like Post malone breaks MJ's records. Another overrated artist. Records are meant to be broken and if someone like Bruno Mars broke this record, I would have been happy for him because he is supremely talented. But post malone? You have got to be kidding me. Seriously, Americans have no taste in music anymore.
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Postby Musicology » Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:55 pm





Example of anti MJ media. Eagles album only surpassed Thriller in the US, thanks to some dodgy manipulation imo. Thriller still remains the best selling album worldwide by a huge margin.
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Postby menime123 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:15 pm

They’ll probably get MJ’s albums re-certified for his 60th bday :lol:
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Postby Robin408 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:25 pm

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Postby menime123 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:20 pm

So if MJ was still around to do it... what would your dream Carpool Karaoke songs be?
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Postby jochen » Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:33 am

Dont know a single song by them
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