beredy wrote: Guru wrote:
Memph wrote:Yeah, I'm not convinced she'll have a 1989 level era again, although virtually no-one's ever had two eras that size (at least in terms of US success). The good news out of this to me is that it means that both her and her label have ambitious plans, so to anyone wondering if she was going to wind down her career and semi-retire to just writing songs, it looks like that's not where things are going, so we should get a good bit of hits, promo and touring.
What about Adele? 21 then 25, both diamond in US
Britney 2 diamond albums, Shania Twain 2 diamond albums and one 2xdiamond... There are girls that had multiple huge eras...
When I said 1989 level era, I meant not just album sales, but Hot 100 performance, radio play, Billboard 200 performance (weekly & year end), media presence, youtube, touring, awards... I know this is a UK forum and Taylor Swift is not as big there, but at least in terms of the size of the 1989 era in the US, I still stand by the fact that hardly anyone's had multiple eras like that.
Shania's only album that was the top seller (US pure sales) released that year was Come On Over, while for Britney it was only Baby One More Time. Taylor has Self-Titled for 2006, Fearless for 2008, Red for 2012, 1989 for 2014, Reputation for 2017, and Speak Now came just 4% short of overtaking Eminem for the top selling album released in 2010. I think you need to take into account how different the industry was with Limewire, iTunes and streaming vs the late 90s.https://atrl.net/forums/topic/201630-to ... f-release/
If you're going just off of the RIAA certifications, I have significant doubts that anyone will be able to have a diamond album with anything released from this point forward, even Adele.
1989 and even some of Taylor's albums did significantly better on the BB200 YE charts than most of those, and on the BB200 all time charts too.
1989's Hot 100 performance was also stronger than those other albums.
Ex weeks in the top 20 of the Hot 100
98 wks - 1989
78 wks - 21
69 wks - Fearless
50 wks - Come On Over
32 wks - Baby One More Time
26 wks - 25
13 wks - Oops I Did It Again
1 wk - Up!
0 wks - The Woman In Me
Adele is probably the one that came closest out of those three where there's the best case for having had two 1989 sized eras in the US. Although the 25 era had relatively toned down media presence for Adele, and less success on radio and the Hot 100, it still got the Grammys and superior sales. I would still say that 1989 era felt bigger than 25 era with all factors considered though.