Tokio Hotel :: The "Kings Of Suburbia" Era

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Postby Kuri » Sun Oct 12, 2014 8:22 pm

Tansike wrote:
Kuri wrote:Considering all these charts, is it selling good in general? I mean more than Humanoid or worse? I don't really know how to interpret the charts :-?
It was just released and is starting to make its debut on some charts right now, so we can't say it yet. But i would be surprised if this sells more, because their hype is gone and sales overall are down a lot compared to back when "Humanoid" was released.
that's sad :( I thought it was good since on the itunes chart they were 1st on 27 countries I think, thank you for answering!
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Postby Timmy94 » Sun Oct 12, 2014 10:56 pm

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keks wrote:I guess #3 for Germany...
...and i expect a big second week drop, maybe even out of the Top20 wouldn't be surprising for me.

What was "Humanoid"'s drop?
A very good question... 1-25! That drop made headlines back then :lol: .
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Postby keks » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:36 am

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Tansike wrote:
keks wrote:I guess #3 for Germany...
...and i expect a big second week drop, maybe even out of the Top20 wouldn't be surprising for me.

What was "Humanoid"'s drop?
A very good question... 1-25! That drop made headlines back then :lol: .
This time the drop will probably be way higher... I think they can be happy if they stay inside the Top 40...
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Postby keks » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:15 pm

Germany

38 (94) LWLYB

2 (new) KOS
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Postby keks » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:16 pm

Timmy94 wrote:
Tansike wrote:
keks wrote:I guess #3 for Germany...
...and i expect a big second week drop, maybe even out of the Top20 wouldn't be surprising for me.

What was "Humanoid"'s drop?
A very good question... 1-25! That drop made headlines back then :lol: .
Still better than 257ers (1-27) :lol:
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Postby Tansike » Mon Oct 13, 2014 3:23 pm

keks wrote:Germany

38 (94) LWLYB

2 (new) KOS
Thanks for posting. Glad the album got the #2 spot. Do you already know if "Girl Got A Gun" made a debut as well?

Oh and i'm a little bit disappointed by the single. I know it was discounted the whole time, but i still expected more...
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Postby Charter2000 » Mon Oct 13, 2014 4:13 pm

Tansike wrote:Oh and i'm a little bit disappointed by the single. I know it was discounted the whole time, but i still expected more...
It seems people just don't want to buy the song (or they don't know it). It's #39 on itunes at the moment despite beeing "brand new" and still sold for only 69 cent while other songs like "Stay With Me" or "Break Free" easily jumped back into the Top 10/Top 20 when their price is reduced to 69 cent.
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Postby Tansike » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:04 pm

^ well i guess we have to wait and see how it will do in the upcoming weeks. Maybe it will start to fall even more, or the radio supports it more and more and it will increase again or at least stabilize again.

Tansike wrote:...Do you already know if "Girl Got A Gun" made a debut as well?
I just can reply to my own question: "Girl Got A Gun" don't make a debut on the german singles charts this week :(
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Postby keks » Mon Oct 13, 2014 8:06 pm

Germany - Airplay - Mainstream
40 (new) LWLYB

Quite ironic they're not inside the Youth Top 50...
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Postby Hellwaylove » Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:33 am

Tansike wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:I can see the album debuting at No. 6 or something in Germany... But if they manage to re-establish themselves, Kings of Suburbia should have more longevity than Humanoid (which was one of the most random German No. 1 albums by the way).
^ I think the same! I'm pretty sure this can do better than "Humanoid" did, even if it won't reach the top...
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Tansike wrote:
keks wrote:I guess #3 for Germany...
...and i expect a big second week drop, maybe even out of the Top20 wouldn't be surprising for me.

What was "Humanoid"'s drop?
A very good question... 1-25! That drop made headlines back then :lol: .
I don't remember the full chart-run of Humanoid, but to be fair, the total amount of weeks spent in the Top-100 (17) was actually okay by those as well as nowadays' standards. Even for a no.1 album. KOS would be yet to attract a much larger audience in order to beat that.
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Postby keks » Tue Oct 14, 2014 1:12 pm

Tansike wrote:
keks wrote:Germany

38 (94) LWLYB

2 (new) KOS
Thanks for posting. Glad the album got the #2 spot. Do you already know if "Girl Got A Gun" made a debut as well?

Oh and i'm a little bit disappointed by the single. I know it was discounted the whole time, but i still expected more...
In the old days they would probably have a Top 20 hit now, but due to the inclusion of streaming I support the revenue rule...
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Postby Timmy94 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:59 pm

keks wrote:
Tansike wrote:
keks wrote:Germany

38 (94) LWLYB

2 (new) KOS
Thanks for posting. Glad the album got the #2 spot. Do you already know if "Girl Got A Gun" made a debut as well?

Oh and i'm a little bit disappointed by the single. I know it was discounted the whole time, but i still expected more...
In the old days they would probably have a Top 20 hit now, but due to the inclusion of streaming I support the revenue rule...
Even top 20 would be bad though, just have a look at their previous peaks:
Durch den Monsun - 1
Schrei - 5
Rette mich - 1
Der letzte Tag - 1
Übers Ende der Welt - 1
Spring nicht - 3
An deiner Seite (Ich bin da) - 2
Automatisch - 5

For a big comeback single, No. 38 is a very disappointing peak and it's not like streaming was the only reason it hasn't reached the top 5 so far...
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Postby keks » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:23 pm

^ Ofc!
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Postby NotMyUmbrella » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:52 pm

No chance it will be in the Top 40 Album Charts next week in Germany, i expect a drop from #2 to at least #41! I give them 4 weeks in the Top 100. Mark my words. :roll:
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Postby Timmy94 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:53 pm

NotMyUmbrella wrote:No chance it will be in the Top 40 Album Charts next week in Germany, i expect a drop from #2 to at least #41! I give them 4 weeks in the Top 100. Mark my words. :roll:
That would be truly horrible! I can only hope that you're wrong...
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Postby Charter2000 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:56 pm

If I remember right, "Automatisch" only managed to reach the Top 5 because of high physical sales.
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Postby Timmy94 » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:59 pm

Charter2000 wrote:If I remember right, "Automatisch" only managed to reach the Top 5 because of high physical sales.
Since the peak is the main thing that matters for singles, I don't think the reason why it charted this high plays a major role... As long as it's not due to a dubious promotion (extreme discount or anything) or the single experiencing an extreme freefall afterwards...
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Postby Tansike » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:00 am

Tansike wrote:Swiss Single Charts

65 (NEW) Love Who Loves You Back
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Swiss Album Charts

11 (NEW) Kings Of Suburbia

Just missed to become their fourth Top10 album...
"Humanoid" peake at #10 hete
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Postby floria » Wed Oct 15, 2014 3:55 pm

Austria Ö3:

8 (NEW) 1 Kings Of Suburbia

39 (64) 2 Love Who Loves You Back
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Postby AshDeluxe » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:38 pm

Timmy94 wrote:Since the peak is the main thing that matters for singles,
Is it?
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Postby Timmy94 » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:40 pm

AshDeluxe wrote:
Timmy94 wrote:Since the peak is the main thing that matters for singles,
Is it?
Definitely! Though it's more important in certain places (UK!!!) than in others (e.g. the US). That's the reason why acts hold back their releases in Germany and especially the UK, that enables a single to reach a higher peak...

If a single's peak is high, labels love to mention that; it's harder to foreground a single that peaked low-ish but had great longevity (labels also do that but far less frequently).
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Postby nympho » Wed Oct 15, 2014 4:44 pm

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Scream was #24 and Humanoid #2.
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Postby floria » Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:41 pm

Italy FIMI:

5 (NEW) 1 Kings Of Suburbia
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Postby Nackar » Fri Oct 17, 2014 11:26 am

Of course the peak isn't more important than sales. A high peak is GREAT, and looks nice, but no label would choose a #1 single that sells 200k over a #10 single that sells 600k, because the latter brings in more money AND brings in more album sales.
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Postby borderwolf » Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:29 am

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