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Postby HUR » Fri May 29, 2015 10:06 pm

Mike, fantastic information. As far as I know, The Album wasn't number one in 1978. What is your source? I think it peaked at number 7.

Mikerocha wrote:An update on ABBA's chart history in Portugal (while they were active).

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Singles
Fernando - 80,000
Chiquitita - 20,000 (Gold)
The Winner Takes it All - 10,000 (Silver)
Super Trouper - 10,000 (Silver)

Albums
Voulez Vous - 40,000 (Platinum)
Greatest Hits Vol.2 - 20,000 (Gold)
Super Trouper - 40,000 (Platinum)
The Visitors - 40,000 (Platinum)
The Singles - 20,000 (Gold)
At the time, a gold single meant 50,000 copies and silver single 25,000 copies.

Voulez Vous, Super Trouper and The Visitors weren't officially certified platinum, but that was because gold was the highest posible award then. They all sold enough for a platinum award, which meant 60,000 copies each.

The Singles was certified gold for 30,000 copies sold, but, since it was a double album, that meant shipments of 15,000.

Plus, I can also add their first Greatest Hits (tittled Fernando) was also gold in 1980 (30,000), so a great catalogue seller (it wasn't massive in 1976).

You are covering their active years. But it is also important to note Abba achieved two further chart topping albums: Gold (8 weeks) in 1992/1993 and The Defintive Collection (6 weeks) in 1999. 8-)
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Postby Mikerocha » Fri May 29, 2015 10:21 pm

^ thank you for helping me out.

And yes omg I knew that certifications were higher way back when :o :lol:

I have the right numbers for my Madonna list.
My apologies to everyone.

I don't know where I saw The Album hiting number one. I wrote it down on my notepad (when I usually take notes in a pad, so I don't
Forget).
But I don't have any further info. Thanks for correcting me!

Do you know the chart peak of Fernando compilation?
And also did the album "ABBA" charted at all?
Interesting fact is the Portguese edition of the self titled 1975 album was also a greatest hits. I wonder if Waterloo was released.
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Postby kevin1989 » Fri May 29, 2015 11:22 pm

Thanks very much for that! Can't wait to see the complete information!
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Postby Benny » Sat May 30, 2015 7:25 am

Germany

99 (102) ABBA Gold
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Postby Benny » Sat May 30, 2015 7:26 am

Mikerocha & HUR, thanks for the Portuguese chart and sales information! Do you have any sales numbers for ABBA Gold?
I once read that the album "Lovestories" reached number one in 1999, can anyone confirm that?
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Postby trebor » Sat May 30, 2015 9:23 am

@ Benny Yes, confirmed. Complete chart run here below! Cheers!

Top AFP- Top 30 Artistas - © Afp/A.C. Nielsen - © 1999
Abba: "Love Stories"

6 - 99-02-06 - 2 - NE - 1 - 2
7 - 99-02-13 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2
8 - 99-02-20 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 1
9 - 99-02-27 - 1 - 1 - 4 - 1
10 - 99-03-06 - 1 - 1 - 5 - 1
11 - 99-03-13 - 1 - 1 - 6 - 1
12 - 99-03-20 - 1 - 1 - 7 - 1
13 - 99-03-27 - 1 - 1 - 8 - 1
14 - 99-04-03 - 2 - 1 - 9 - 1
15 - 99-04-10 - 2 - 2 - 10 - 1
16 - 99-04-17 - 2 - 2 - 11 - 1
17 - 99-04-24 - 6 - 2 - 12 - 1
18 - 99-05-01 - 5 - 6 - 13 - 1
19 - 99-05-08 - 3 - 5 - 14 - 1
20 - 99-05-15 - 3 - 3 - 15 - 1
21 - 99-05-22 - 7 - 3 - 16 - 1
22 - 99-05-29 - 12 - 7 - 17 - 1
23 - 99-06-05 - 15 - 12 - 18 - 1
24 - 99-06-12 - 18 - 15 - 19 - 1
25 - 99-06-19 - 25 - 18 - 20 - 1
26 - 99-06-26 - 27 - 25 - 21 - 1
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Postby Benny » Sat May 30, 2015 11:11 am

trebor wrote:@ Benny Yes, confirmed. Complete chart run here below! Cheers!
Thank you trebor! "Love Stories" also reached number 3 in France.

HUR wrote:You are covering their active years. But it is also important to note Abba achieved two further chart topping albums: Gold (8 weeks) in 1992/1993 and The Defintive Collection (6 weeks) in 1999. 8-)
"The Definitive Collection" was only released in 2001. So was it a number one in 2001/2002 or do you mean a different album? :o
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Postby trebor » Sat May 30, 2015 11:47 am

France - Top 25 Compilations - © Ifop/Tite-Live © 1999
Abba: "Love Stories"

16 - 99-04-17 (04.-10.04.99) - 11 - NE - 1 - 11
17 - 99-04-24 (11.-17.04.99) - 3 - 11 - 2 - 3
18 - 99-05-01 (18.04.-24.04.99) - 6 - 3 - 3 - 3
19 - 99-05-08 (25.04.-01.05.99) - 12 - 6 - 4 - 3
20 - 99-05-15 (02.-08.05.99) - 9 - 12 - 5 - 3
21 - 99-05-22 (09.-15.05.99) - 11 - 9 - 6 - 3
22 - 99-05-29 (16.-22.05.99) - 17 - 11 - 7 - 3
23 - 99-06-05 (23.-29.05.99) - 16 - 17 - 8 - 3

25 - 99-06-19 (06.-12.06.99) - 21 - RE - 9 - 3
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Postby trebor » Sat May 30, 2015 12:03 pm

France - Top 25 Compilations - © Ifop/Tite-Live © 1999/2000
Abba: Forever Gold

51 - 99-12-18 (05.-11.12.99) - 19 - NE - 1 - 19
52 - 99-12-25 (12.-18.12.99) - 6 - 19 - 2 - 6
53 - 00-01-01 (19.-25.12.99) - 6 - 6 - 3 - 6
1 - 00-01-08 (26.12.99-01.01.00) - 7 - 6 - 4 - 6
2 - 00-01-15 (02.-08.01.00) - 4 - 7 - 5 - 4
3 - 00-01-22 (09.-15.01.00) - 6 - 4 - 6 - 4
4 - 00-01-29 (16.-22.01.00) - 6 - 6 - 7 - 4
5 - 00-02-05 (23.-29.01.00) - 7 - 6 - 8 - 4
6 - 00-02-12 (30.01.-05.02.00) - 10 - 7 - 9 - 4
7 - 00-02-19 (06.-12.02.00) - 11 - 10 - 10 - 4
8 - 00-02-26 (13.-19.02.00) - 15 - 11 - 11 - 4
9 - 00-03-04 (20.-26.02.00) - 20 - 15 - 12 - 4
10 - 00-03-11 (27.02.-04.03.00) - 24 - 20 - 13 - 4
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Postby Mikerocha » Sat May 30, 2015 12:27 pm

Benny wrote:Mikerocha & HUR, thanks for the Portuguese chart and sales information! Do you have any sales numbers for ABBA Gold?
I once read that the album "Lovestories" reached number one in 1999, can anyone confirm that?
When Mamma Mia! The movie was released, ABBA gold re entered the charts and the it was certified 2xPlatinum.

I'm just not aware if that is according to the original certification process (platinum=40,000) or the changed rules in 2005 that was Gold: 10,000 and Platinum=20,000.

If anyone can have the full info, it would be great.
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Postby Mikerocha » Sat May 30, 2015 1:59 pm

Benny wrote:
trebor wrote:@ Benny Yes, confirmed. Complete chart run here below! Cheers!
Thank you trebor! "Love Stories" also reached number 3 in France.

HUR wrote:You are covering their active years. But it is also important to note Abba achieved two further chart topping albums: Gold (8 weeks) in 1992/1993 and The Defintive Collection (6 weeks) in 1999. 8-)
"The Definitive Collection" was only released in 2001. So was it a number one in 2001/2002 or do you mean a different album? :o
The Definitive Collection didn't chart in Portugal. Although I bought it myself in 2001. I think he meant Love Stories, as it did spent 6 weeks at #1.

Tv ads for new albums were essential at the time. i remember an ad for Love Stories on TV, which helped it go #1.

Also, More ABBA Gold was certified Gold in 1993.
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Postby HUR » Sat May 30, 2015 4:48 pm

Benny wrote:
trebor wrote:@ Benny Yes, confirmed. Complete chart run here below! Cheers!
Thank you trebor! "Love Stories" also reached number 3 in France.

HUR wrote:You are covering their active years. But it is also important to note Abba achieved two further chart topping albums: Gold (8 weeks) in 1992/1993 and The Defintive Collection (6 weeks) in 1999. 8-)
"The Definitive Collection" was only released in 2001. So was it a number one in 2001/2002 or do you mean a different album? :o
I mixed them up, Benny. Sorry. :oops: I meant Love Stories.

Best selling albums of 1999
1 - Sogno - Andrea Bocelli
2 - The Party Album! - Vengaboys
3 - Love Stories - ABBA
4 - Believe - Cher
5 - Millenium - Backstreet Boys
6 - Best - Scorpions
7 - Voar - Santos & Pecadores
8 - ...Baby One More Time - Britney Spears
9 - A Little Bit Of Mambo - Lou Bega
10 - Más - Alejandro Sanz

Mike, I know of someone who has a lot of seventies charts. Will ask about The Album from 1978. No information on their compilation Fernando, but I think it reached gold (30,000) because of great catalogue sales, not sure if it charted that high in 1976.
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Postby Mikerocha » Sat May 30, 2015 6:13 pm

Thank you :D
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Postby Benny » Tue Jun 02, 2015 8:43 pm

Benny wrote:There's now a site that features old issues of Billboard Magazine as PDF files:
http://www.americanradiohistory.com/Bil ... gazine.htm

On this site there are more issues available than on google books, so there may be some "new" information on ABBA sales.

I will try to scan through the previoulsy unreleased weeks to find some further information on ABBA. Three years ago, I had already searched through old issues of Billboard magazine on google books:
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Here's some other information I found:

Billboard Magazine issue 7 October 1978:
ABBA's album sales in Eastern Europe according to Stig Anderson: 1.5 mio in Poland, 400k in Czechoslovakia, 400k in East Germany, 200k in Bulgaria, 200k in Hungary
Billboard Magazine issue 21 October 1978:
ABBA are among the artists regularly hitting the 100k sales mark in Yugoslavia
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Postby Benny » Fri Jun 12, 2015 9:41 am

From Billboard magazine:

Billboard Magazine issue 29 March 1980:
The revised Norwegian Top 10 of all -time best -selling albums: 1, The Smurfs "I Smurfeland" 270k; 2, OST "Grease" 250k; 3, "The Album," Abba (Polar), 210,000; 4, "Greatest Hits,"Smokie (Rak), 195,000; 5, "Saturday Night Fever" (RSO) 180,000; 6, "Arrival," Abba (Polar) 167,000; "Brakara," Prima Vera (RCA) 125,000; 8, "Abba," Abba (Polar) and "Hotel California," Eagles (Asylum) 120,000; 10, "Spirits Having Flown," Bee Gees (RSO) 115,000.
Billboard Magazine issue 24 May 1980:
SYDNEY -Although down from the group's 1975 -77 sales peak in Australia, Abba is still enjoying strong antipodean success. RCA reports that its "Greatest Hits Vol. 2" sold 100,000 copies in five weeks, while "Voulez Vous" has now passed 200,000 unit sales (double platinum here).
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Postby Mikerocha » Sat Jun 13, 2015 2:20 pm

So by 1980, 3 of their albums was in the top 10 selling albums of all time in Norway.

The funny thing is, the fact Voulez-Vous isn't there means it sold less than 115,000 copies (the #10 on that list).

And nice to see their albums after Arrival still selling well in Australia! 200,000 for Voulez Vous is great :)

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I always wonder the drop of popularity of ABBA in Australia. We went from having a 6 consecutive #1 singles (I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do to Money Money Money, without counting other local releases) to a #9 "flop" of Knowing Me, Knowing You (a major hit everywhere else).

And then even ABBA: The Album would fail to go #1, peaking at a moderate #4 (I'd like to know its sales).

What happened overnight? It was while they were touring! Did people just got sick of them overnight?
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Postby Benny » Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:51 pm

Mikerocha wrote:So by 1980, 3 of their albums was in the top 10 selling albums of all time in Norway.

The funny thing is, the fact Voulez-Vous isn't there means it sold less than 115,000 copies (the #10 on that list).
At that time, "The Album" was ABBA's biggest selling studio album not only in Norway but also in Sweden:

ABBA's album sales in Sweden at 30 june 1979 (according to Billboard magazine):
Ring Ring = 117k
Waterloo = 350k
ABBA = 475k
GH = 293k
Arrival = 693k
The album = 753k
Voulez-vous = 290k

Mikerocha wrote:I always wonder the drop of popularity of ABBA in Australia. We went from having a 6 consecutive #1 singles (I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do to Money Money Money, without counting other local releases) to a #9 "flop" of Knowing Me, Knowing You (a major hit everywhere else).

And then even ABBA: The Album would fail to go #1, peaking at a moderate #4 (I'd like to know its sales).

What happened overnight? It was while they were touring! Did people just got sick of them overnight?
It was overexposure that killed them in Australia, similar to the Bee Gees in the States. They dominated the Australian charts and media so strongly from autumn 1975 to early 1977 that most Australians had enough of them after their 1977 tour.
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Postby kevin1989 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:48 pm

Benny wrote:
Mikerocha wrote:So by 1980, 3 of their albums was in the top 10 selling albums of all time in Norway.

The funny thing is, the fact Voulez-Vous isn't there means it sold less than 115,000 copies (the #10 on that list).
At that time, "The Album" was ABBA's biggest selling studio album not only in Norway but also in Sweden:

ABBA's album sales in Sweden at 30 june 1979 (according to Billboard magazine):
Ring Ring = 117k
Waterloo = 350k
ABBA = 475k
GH = 293k
Arrival = 693k
The album = 753k
Voulez-vous = 290k

Mikerocha wrote:I always wonder the drop of popularity of ABBA in Australia. We went from having a 6 consecutive #1 singles (I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do, I Do to Money Money Money, without counting other local releases) to a #9 "flop" of Knowing Me, Knowing You (a major hit everywhere else).

And then even ABBA: The Album would fail to go #1, peaking at a moderate #4 (I'd like to know its sales).

What happened overnight? It was while they were touring! Did people just got sick of them overnight?
It was overexposure that killed them in Australia, similar to the Bee Gees in the States. They dominated the Australian charts and media so strongly from autumn 1975 to early 1977 that most Australians had enough of them after their 1977 tour.
I'm always impressed when I see ABBA's sales figures in their home country. I mean, these are HUGE. Basically, almost one out of 10 people in Sweden at the time bought Arrival and The Album!!
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Postby Benny » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:09 pm

kevin1989 wrote:I'm always impressed when I see ABBA's sales figures in their home country. I mean, these are HUGE. Basically, almost one out of 10 people in Sweden at the time bought Arrival and The Album!!
Yes, their Swedish sales are very impressive. Apparently Swedish radio stations didn't play much of ABBA's music at the time (because it was seen as "too commercial") so the only way that people could hear their music was to buy the records.
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Postby kevin1989 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 8:43 pm

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kevin1989 wrote:I'm always impressed when I see ABBA's sales figures in their home country. I mean, these are HUGE. Basically, almost one out of 10 people in Sweden at the time bought Arrival and The Album!!
Yes, their Swedish sales are very impressive. Apparently Swedish radio stations didn't play much of ABBA's music at the time (because it was seen as "too commercial") so the only way that people could hear their music was to buy the records.
Yeah, I've read a lot of things about ABBA (I happen to have 3 books about them) and they do say the same about how they were treated by radios and the media in general in Sweden. It's great that it ended up working in their favour rather than the contrary!
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Postby Benny » Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:43 pm

It would be great to have an updated sales number for ABBA Gold in Sweden. It was certified for sales of 500,000 copies many years ago but I think that sales are now in the 700k range (or even higher?).
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Postby Mikerocha » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:13 am

700,000 for Gold is amazing in Sweden. What's the Population now?

9 million?

Agnetha's solo album sales were also impressive in the 80s in Swede .

Wrap Your Arms Around Me 320,000
Eyes of a Woman 150,000
I Stand Alone 280,000

If Im not wrong these are the numbers. My apologies.
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Postby Benny » Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:05 am

Mikerocha wrote:When Mamma Mia! The movie was released, ABBA gold re entered the charts and the it was certified 2xPlatinum.

I'm just not aware if that is according to the original certification process (platinum=40,000) or the changed rules in 2005 that was Gold: 10,000 and Platinum=20,000.

If anyone can have the full info, it would be great.
ABBA Gold was already 2x platinum (= 80k) in Portugal in 1999 according to Billboard magazine:
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Postby Mikerocha » Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:39 pm

^ interesting. And weird.

I used to watch the TV show countdown every Saturday, regiously from 2001 to 2009 and then said it was "now" certified 2xPlatinum. Oh well.
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Postby brian05 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:29 pm

Abba's Take a chance on me on sale in iTunes for 59p this week.
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