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Postby LostAvenger » Thu May 10, 2012 2:37 am

^ Based on shipments.
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Postby AndiIversen » Thu May 10, 2012 6:20 pm

ö3 Austria top75 albums:
#72 (lw#65) ABBA Gold GH (87 weeks)

Australia:
top50 Catalogue Albums:
tw:26 lw:26 weeks86 peak5 18 HITS Abba <P>2 UNI/UMA
tw:47 lw:43 weeks29 peak12 ABBA GOLD ABBA <P>11 UMA
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Postby HUR » Thu May 10, 2012 8:52 pm

LostAvenger wrote:^ Based on shipments.
Yes, and still important.
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Postby zeus555 » Fri May 11, 2012 7:26 pm

My main 'Contact' at The OCC, (Official Charts Company), has E-mailed
to explain why The OCC never released a proposed 'Announcement'
today, to say that 'Gold' is the only the 3rd Album to reach 5 Million
UK Sales. (The equivalent of about 25,365,000 USA Sales).

It is because Universal have asked them to hold off - until next Week.

There is a good reason for this. I can't say anything - incase the
reason they are asking for a delay does not happen!

In the latest UK Top 200 - W/E 12th May:,

1) 'The Visitors' fell from No.62 OUT of the Top 200.

2) '18 Hits' rose from No.83 to No.78.

3) 'Gold' fell from No.90 to No.101 - just missing
out on its 649th Top 100 Week.

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Postby AndiIversen » Tue May 15, 2012 3:52 pm

Czech Republic:

IFPI CR Hitparáda - TOP 20 Hudební video (top20 music video):

#14 lw:#11 ABBA Visitors(Deluxe Edition)+DVD peak:#10 3 weeks
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Postby prici900 » Tue May 15, 2012 4:09 pm

Abba thoughts – :D

I was recently looking at Wikipedia (I know not the most reliable of sources) – and are generally amazed at the claims that are made for some artist album sales, For example – Spice girls first LP – has said to have sold 28 million – this really can’t be the case as although it did sell well – it did not sell as well as Gold which we can easily make a case for selling at least that amount if not more. One of the more surprising LP claims comes in the form of the Bee Gees – Spirits having flown – here we have a case of let’s just double what it may have sold. The new claim is for 30 million. In 1979 it had sold slightly less than Abba’s Voulez- Vous in England so say a sale of 800,000 and it has certified sales of 4 million in the USA. It was Massive around the world but not sales that would get it to 30 Million – it just is not possible – in fact on the Bee gees life stores DVD and their official biography sales of 13 – 16 million (which is more believable). I am a fan of the Bee Gees and have a fair number of their Studio Albums (If you take out Saturdays night Fever as being a Bee Gees LP) then Spirits having flown is their biggest seller – they did not have any more big selling Studio LPs.

So what’s the point to all this? The point is that when I go and look at Abba on Wikipedia – it’s like we can’t be bothered to big up Abba’s achievements – which we can source to some degree. For example Abba’s almost forgotten greatest hits Vol 2 – sold nearly a million in Japan, 1.2 Million in England was big in Canada and would have been a big hit in the South American countries – due to their recent success with Chiquitita there. – What mention does this have of sales on Wikipedia – nothing except acknowledgment that it was a big seller in Japan? I think we should all make an effort to get sales next to Abba’s LP’s on that site – just like they have with Gold – as we are in the position where there is quite a bit of source material that shows how much some records sold. Abba are in danger of having their sales achievements of being talked down whilst other groups (the Spice girls and the Bee Gees) are having theirs routinely exaggerated.
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Postby AndiIversen » Tue May 15, 2012 4:34 pm

prici900 wrote:
So what’s the point to all this? The point is that when I go and look at Abba on Wikipedia – it’s like we can’t be bothered to big up Abba’s achievements – which we can source to some degree. For example Abba’s almost forgotten greatest hits Vol 2 – sold nearly a million in Japan, 1.2 Million in England was big in Canada and would have been a big hit in the South American countries – due to their recent success with Chiquitita there. – What mention does this have of sales on Wikipedia – nothing except acknowledgment that it was a big seller in Japan? I think we should all make an effort to get sales next to Abba’s LP’s on that site – just like they have with Gold – as we are in the position where there is quite a bit of source material that shows how much some records sold. Abba are in danger of having their sales achievements of being talked down whilst other groups (the Spice girls and the Bee Gees) are having theirs routinely exaggerated.
I feel the same way. A lot of ABBA's sales seem missing/ skipped, I need to mention the huge spanish-speaking territories sales for both ORO Grandes Exitos (the spanish versin of Gold) and also for Gracias por la Musica are MIA; both releases saw great sales but sadly we'd likely never see numbers for those (apart from the 750k sold in Argentina and 370k in Mexico for Gracias according to UM Ar and UM Mexico and the 100k by Promusicae in Spain), not to mention that the spanish versions were released in many non-spanish speaking terrietories as well (like Japan for ex.).
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Postby zeus555 » Wed May 16, 2012 3:09 pm

'The Essential Collection'.....

I see that amazon are listing Track 11, on CD 1,
as 'Bang-A', instead of 'Bang-A-Boomerang'!

And they have not even Listed the DVD's Tracks -
yet. I notice that it, (DVD), has dropped to £11 in
price. It was £12.70 last Week.

1) As you can see, they now have better photos of
the 3 versions.

LINK:,

http://goo.gl/Ty18j

A) The 2 CD + DVD version, looks like it will be in
a sort of tall, narrow, 'Book' Form - like the
1994 'Thank You For The Music' Box Set.

B) The 2 CD version will be in the form of an ordinary CD case.

C) And the DVD version will, (of course), be in a normal DVD case.

As regards 'Gold's International Sales - They have
been given as 28 Million since about 2005. We've
had its Sales added to since then - by the 'Mamma
Mia!' Film, in 2008.

I know that it sold around 1,800,000 in 2008. Then
we have its 2006 to 2007 Sales, & its 2009 to 2012 Sales.

I'd say that it is already on at least 31 Million Global Sales.....

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Postby AndiIversen » Wed May 16, 2012 4:15 pm

O3 Austria top40 albums:

#61 lw:#72 Gold Abba weeks:88
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Postby prici900 » Thu May 17, 2012 4:40 pm

ITALY – what happened to ABBA’ sales here? :evil:

Italy – I have no idea what happened to Abba in Italy – one of their worse preforming counties in terms of sales – No number ones and only one number two (albeit the 4th biggest seller in 1976 in the form of SOS). Only three top ten hits overall -and big gaps in-between having a hit.

1976 was Abba’s best year in Italy with Fernando also making number 6 and being the 18th best seller of the year – Dancing queen could only make the 89th best seller of the year and number 14 in the charts.

It’s not as if Italy did not like pop music as the Buggels very Abbaesque “Video killed the radio star” was number one in Italy for eons and dull pop music like Take That also made if big there.

The worldwide Abba revival has borne some fruits for Abba in Italy – mostly in the form of Abba Gold (Sales around 100,000) and made either number 9 or number 2 – depending where you look.

In Abba’s entire stunning sales career I can’t think of a country where they performed worse. In a county that gave the world Belosconi (they like their ‘characters’ apparently) Abba were largely ignored.

Interestingly although Italy had a population of some 60 million they did not buy too many records in the 1970’s – this is because it is largely a poor country and one that did not have may record shops and the ones that they did have were poorly organized. Sweden had a population of some 8 million in the 1970’s they consumed a lot more records – this highlights that the size of the population in a developed country does not always mean this will translate into big music sales.

As for Abba in Italy, I take the philosophical view that this is one country that at best you could say that Abba had some moderate success –At worse the country where they had the least success in Europe – However the success that Abba had in countries where they broke the sales rules (Massive LP sales in both Australia and Sweden – relative to the size of the population of the countries) more than makes up for the Abba’s short-comings in Italy.
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Postby zeus555 » Thu May 17, 2012 6:01 pm

Ian - Here are ABBA's Peak Positions, from a
different Italian Chart. The Hits that failed to
Chart are listed too. As you can see, 'Mamma Mia'
only reached No.53, in 1976. However, it was a No.12
Italian Hit, as an October 2008 Download - due to
the 'Mamma Mia!' Film. 'SOS' was a No.1 Hit, in this
Chart.

1974: Hasta Mañana (Andersson,B - Anderson,S - Ulvaeus,B) - [#34]
1974: Honey Honey (Andersson,B - Anderson,S - Ulvaeus,B)
1974: Waterloo (Andersson,B - Andersson,U - Ulvaeus,B) - [#16]
1976: I Do I Do I Do I Do I Do (Andersson,B - Anderson,S - Ulvaeus,B) - [#48]
1976: Mamma Mia (Andersson,B - Andersson,U - Ulvaeus,B) - [#53]
1976: S.O.S. (Andersson,B - Andersson,U - Ulvaeus,B) - [#1]
1976: Dancing Queen (Andersson,B - Andersson,U - Ulvaeus,B) - [#15]
1976: Fernando (Andersson,B - Andersson,U - Ulvaeus,B) - [#5]
1977: Knowing Me Knowing You (Andersson,B - Andersson,U - Ulvaeus,B)
1977: Money Money Money (Andersson,B - Ulvaeus,B)
1978: The Name Of The Game (Anderson,B - Anderson,S - Ulvaeus,B)
1978: Take A Chance On Me (Anderson,B - Ulvaeus,B)
1978: Summer Night City (Andersson - Ulvaeus)
1979: Chiquitita (Anderson,B - Ulvaeus,B) - [#31]
1979: I Have A Dream (Andersson,B - Ulvaeus,B)
1979: Voulez Vous (Andersson,B - Ulvaeus,B)
1980: Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight) (Anderson,B - Ulvaeus,B)
1981: Lay All Your Love On Me (Andersson,B - Ulvaeus,B)
1981: Super Trouper (Anderson,B - Ulvaeus,B)
1981: The Winner Takes It All (Anderson,B - Ulvaeus,B) - [#23]


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Postby Benny » Thu May 17, 2012 6:07 pm

Italy is indeed a country where Abba's success was very moderate. It's the only big record market I can think of where they didn't have neither a number one single nor a number one album. In fact, only three of their songs reached the Italian top 10 with "SOS" being their biggest hit, peaking at number 2. Their studio albums struggled on the album chart (neither "Arrival", "The Album" nor "Super Trouper" made the top 10, for example). "Gold" is their most successful album ever with a number two peak.

Abba performed on Italian TV only once, in September 1975. Apparently they weren't treated nicely there (they had to wait for hours until they could perform, the dressing room was very small etc.) and that's why they decided never to go back to Italy again. So a lack of promotion is certainly one reason behind the moderate success.

Italian sales for "Gold" are a mystery, apparently it was certified for sales of 200.000 but some people believe it sold as much as 800.000 copies.
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Postby HUR » Thu May 17, 2012 6:55 pm

I think you took that from a Billboard article in 1999, where it was listed as quadruple gold in Italy. But before 1994, 100,000 copies were needed for an album to go gold and 200,000 to reach platinum status. If their record company were using that criteria, that would mean it was on 400,000 copies then. It may not not have sold 800,000 copies by now, but more than that, if true.
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Postby Benny » Thu May 17, 2012 8:59 pm

HUR, thanks you for your reply! I found the following information regarding the sales of "Gold" in the "Italian certifications" thread (mostly estimations):

- 250.000 copies sold in 1992
- 50.500 copies sold in 2008
- 41.942 copies in 2009
- it received a gold certification (30.000 copies) in 2010 for sales since 2009.

A sales total of 400.000 copies until 1999 using the quadruple gold certification from Billboard with gold equalling 100.000 copies (before 1994) could be realistic. Add (almost) 100.000 copies sold in 2008 & 2009 and we have a total of half a million copies. I don't think that it sold that much between 2000 and 2007, people were buying "The Definitive Collection" instead (it reached number 10 in late 2001). So I guess the Italian sales total for "Gold" is between 500k and 600k (not 800k, that number is way too high).
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Postby jszmiles » Fri May 18, 2012 11:34 am

By Lauren Kreisler

Swedish superstars ABBA have further underlined their position as musical legends, with their Gold album becoming only the third 5-million-seller in UK chart history. According to latest Official Charts Company sales data, the quartet’s Gold - Greatest Hits has passed the 5 million mark in the past week.

The achievement puts the album alongside alongside Queen’s Greatest Hits and The Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band as one of only three albums to reach such an elevated sales level.

Gold - Greatest Hits marks 20 years since its initial release this October, having racked up eight weeks at Number 1 since it was first released in 1992. ABBA are one of the all-time great singles artists, having racked up nine Number 1s and another 10 Top 10s in the UK’s Official Singles Chart, since their debut hit Waterloo in 1974.

Official Charts Company managing director Martin Talbot says, “This is another incredible record in a career of extraordinary achievements for ABBA, who are unquestionably one of British music fans’ all-time favourite acts. Over the past 20 years, one in every five households has bought a copy of Gold, which is a truly remarkable statistic.

“ABBA are true chart superstars here in the UK – and this latest record adds to their legendary status.”

ABBA’s landmark has been reached after Adele’s 21 broke into the all-time UK Official Albums Chart Top 5 for the first time last month, behind Oasis’s What’s The Story Morning Glory. The two albums are among a list of five other albums to have sold more than 4m copies in the UK, the others being Pink Floyd's The Dark Side Of The Moon, Dire Straits’ Brothers In Arms and Michael Jackson’s Thriller.

ABBA Gold is just 46,000 copies behind The Beatles’ Sgt. Pepper's.

The UK’s Official Biggest Selling Albums of all-time Top 10
01 GREATEST HITS (1981) - QUEEN
02 SGT PEPPER’S LONELY HEART’S CLUB BAND (1967) - THE BEATLES
03 GOLD - GREATEST HITS (1992) - ABBA
04 WHAT’S THE STORY MORNING GLORY (1995) - OASIS
05 21 (2011) – ADELE
06 THRILLER (1982) - MICHAEL JACKSON
07 BROTHERS IN ARMS (1985) - DIRE STRAITS
08 THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON (1973) - PINK FLOYD
09 BAD (1987) - MICHAEL JACKSON
10 GREATEST HITS II (1991) - QUEEN

© 2012 the Official Charts Company. All rights reserved.
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Postby zeus555 » Fri May 18, 2012 12:54 pm

In the UK, The Official Charts Company has just announced that
'ABBA Gold' has become only the 3rd Album to reach 5 Million UK
Sales:,

LINK:,

http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-new ... club-1400/

UK ‘GOLD - GREATEST HITS’ UK CHART TRIVIA


And here is some Chart Data that I've compiled about this.

1) This 1992 Album has now become only the 3rd Album to reach 5 Million Sales, in the UK.

2) Only ‘Greatest Hits’, by Queen, (1981), & ‘Sgt Pepper….’, by The Beatles, have sold more UK copies.

3) TOP 75 WEEKS

It has also spent more time in the Top 75 than any other Album - 449 Weeks.

4) TOP 100 WEEKS

And more Weeks in the Top 100 than any other Album - 648 Weeks.

5) TOP 10 WEEKS

It has spent more Weeks in the Top 10 than any other ABBA Album - 58 Weeks.

6) No.1 YEARS

It has had 5 ‘Runs’ at No.1, for a Total of 8 Weeks. Whilst that is not a UK Chart Record, the fact that it had 3 of those ‘Runs’, several years apart, & in separate Chart Runs, is.

A) It first went to No.1 in October 1992

B) Then in April 1999 - 6 Years & 6 Months later. (As well as returning to No.1 - twice - in May 1999).

C) Then in August 2008 - 9 Years & 3 Months later. (You start this ‘Span’ in May 1999 - not in April 1999).

7) 13 YEARS IN THE ANNUAL UK TOP 100 BEST SELLING ALBUMS

It is one of very few Albums to appear in the UK’s Annual Top 100 Albums for as many as
13 Years:,

1992 - 12th, 1993 - 36th, 1994 - 63rd, 1995 - 80th, 1996 - 87th, 1997 - 100th, 1998 - 55th,

1999 - 4th 2000 - 41st, 2004 - 47th, 2008 - 19th, 2009 - 54th, 2010 - 90th

8) SEPTEMBER 2012 - 20th ANNIVERSARY OF ‘GOLD’

September of this Year is the 20th Anniversary of ‘Gold’ being released in the UK.
(Released on Monday 21st September 1992. Entered, (at No.1), in the Chart of W/E 3rd October 1992).

ABBA TRIVIA - AS A GROUP

A) 2012 is the 40th Anniversary of ABBA forming - 1972

B) And the 30th Anniversary of them splitting up - 1982

C) They are the biggest Non-UK/Non-USA Act, in UK Chart History.
(Beating even Kylie Minogue, (Australia), & Celine Dion, (Canada).

D) They have spent more Weeks at No.1, in the UK Singles & Albums Chart combined
- 88 Weeks - than all but 2 Acts - The Beatles - 243 Weeks, & Elvis Presley - 143 Weeks.

E) Their 114 Top 10 UK Singles Chart Weeks, & 224 Top 10 UK Albums Chart Weeks,
are the most by any Group, since The Beatles split up, in 1970.

F) ABBA & LED ZEPPELIN hold the UK Chart Record, for the ‘Most Consecutive No.1 Albums. Both Acts had 8 No.1 Albums in a row. Led Zeppelin from 1970 to 1979, & ABBA from 1976 to 1982. Ironically, the 8th No.1 Album by Led Zeppelin, (‘In Through The Out Door’), was recorded at ABBA’s Polar Studios, in Sweden - 1978.


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Postby Benny » Fri May 18, 2012 4:43 pm

Fantastic news from the UK :D!
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Postby HUR » Fri May 18, 2012 6:45 pm

Amazing accolade.

Benny wrote:HUR, thanks you for your reply! I found the following information regarding the sales of "Gold" in the "Italian certifications" thread (mostly estimations):

- 250.000 copies sold in 1992
- 50.500 copies sold in 2008
- 41.942 copies in 2009
- it received a gold certification (30.000 copies) in 2010 for sales since 2009.

A sales total of 400.000 copies until 1999 using the quadruple gold certification from Billboard with gold equalling 100.000 copies (before 1994) could be realistic. Add (almost) 100.000 copies sold in 2008 & 2009 and we have a total of half a million copies. I don't think that it sold that much between 2000 and 2007, people were buying "The Definitive Collection" instead (it reached number 10 in late 2001). So I guess the Italian sales total for "Gold" is between 500k and 600k (not 800k, that number is way too high).
Agreed. However, I think it is definitely more than 600,000 (500,000 is probably too conservative). Also, while I think 800,000 copies is rather high, it shouldn't be ruled out altogether. I remember seeing some Abba's sales somewhere, not sure where. It is true it may be their smallerst market, but they did have some decent successes.
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Postby Benny » Sun May 20, 2012 8:17 pm

UK Album Chart:
53 (82) Abba - 18 Hits

Number 53 is the album's highest position in the UK since November 2008 :D

The same cover of the "Dancing Queen" single from 1976 has been chosen for "The Essential Collection" which will be released in Germany on the 25th of May:

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Postby zeus555 » Mon May 21, 2012 10:22 am

I think that 'The Essential Collection' will need
a lot of promotion in Germany. The 2 CD version was
high as No.44, in the Amazon, (German), Top 100, last
night, but it is now at No.116, & the 2 CD + DVD version
is near the lower end of the Top 200. The DVD is in the 4000's.

Alan Jones, ('Music Week'), has mentioned 'Gold' in his Monday Sales
Report, regarding the current UK Album Chart:,

"ABBA's Gold: Greatest Hits has become the third album to sell upwards of
five million copies. Climbing 112-110, the album sold 1,009 copies last
week, raising its career tally to a staggering 5,002,685. Only Queen's
Greatest Hits and The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band have
sold more copies".

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Postby arab » Mon May 21, 2012 2:40 pm

^
Incredible total sales!
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Postby prici900 » Sat May 26, 2012 9:29 am

Abba's Sales are fantastic - :D

I am also glad to see that the Abba worldwide Chart list is being updated again (After a year of being dormant) I just wished Trent would get rid of the claims made for Costa Rica (they are so wrong) and put Denmark's Abba Charts in it's place, as at least we know a lot more for Denmark than we do Costa Rica - Also it seems that Abba had good on-going sucess in Chile so it would be great to see how they did there.

Intresting that Trent has added the follwing informtion about Abba sales in France

Waterloo - Gold - sales reported to be 417,000
Fernando - Gold - sales reported to be 602,000
Money, Money, Money - Gold - sales reported to be 550,000
Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! - Gold - sales reported to be 583,000
Super Trouper - Gold - sales reported to be 392,000

Total Abba sales in France are listed as 5,476,000 singles and 3,109,423 albums. So Abba sold less than a third LP'S and Singles in France than they did in England despite both countries having roughly the same size populations. :-?

What these single sales do tell us that Fernando was a massive seller in nearly every country and it also seems to be the country where MMM and GGG sold the most copies.
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Postby innocenteyes » Sat May 26, 2012 9:35 am

^ It would've been interesting to have total sales for I Do x5 in France given it was one of their biggest hits here.
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Postby prici900 » Sat May 26, 2012 12:39 pm

I am not too sure I do x 5 was one of Abba's biggest hits in france -as it only made number 14 on the sales chart - and was only the 60th best selling single of 1975 in their end of year sales chart.

The thing that I find intresting about I do x 5 - is that this song was a big hit for Abba around Europe and even made the American top 20 (albeit after SOS had been released there) but it is generally thought that SOS saved Abba's career -I think that this is only true in the UK as I do X 5 made number 1 in Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and Switzerland, number 6 in Germany and was a top five hit in many countries - so after the flop (Mostly) of So Long - it was I do x 5 to the rescue.

I reckon it sold about a million (at least) around the world and although it has not aged as well as a lot of Abba's other singles, it was ,for its day, experimental. :D
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Postby innocenteyes » Sat May 26, 2012 1:15 pm

prici900 wrote:I am not too sure I do x 5 was one of Abba's biggest hits in france
Perhaps it's not reflected in chart positions but if you ask french people, who were around in the 1970 when ABBA were big, about their biggest hits, I Do would come right after Money x3, Gimme x3 and Fernando.

I don't think that the younger generation will be very familiar with this song very well but 50-60 year old people definately know about I Do x5.

I've never understood why it was excluded from ABBA Gold as it's one of their biggest hits worldwide (bar in the UK and Ireland).
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