Elton John :: Charts & Sales History

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Postby mansfield » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:30 am

nelson wrote:
mansfield wrote:I have the photos of Elton whene he receives the Gold award.
PHOTOS??? :lol:
yes.
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Postby mansfield » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:33 am

nelson wrote:Brazilian Sales

The Very Best Of Elton John - 100,000
Sleeping With The Past - 100,000

Candle In The Wind - 250,000
Brasil

Greatest Hits 70-02 50.000
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Postby Basil » Thu Jan 05, 2006 8:54 pm

On Page One - post 6 - I've listed all the UK Album sales figures I have. Please let me know if I've missed any!
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Postby lucad » Thu Jan 05, 2006 9:14 pm

Basil wrote:
These soundscan figures total 22,284,000. By September 2005 Elton's soundscan total was 24 million, so about 2 million is missing.

A few titles don't have a soundscan figure. A few are too low - The Road to Eldorado sold more than 2,000. Also a number of titles were released as "Classic Editions" and these may not be included.

Here are SS figures of albums that didn't chart plus corrections to complete the scan picture.

The Road to Eldorado 197,000 copies
Greatest Hits Vol 3 1979-1987 280,000
Rare Masters 111,000
Your Songs 106,000

Three more that you didn't mention in the US list:
Very Best Of 162,000
England's Rose 62,000
Live At The Ritz-Exclusive-007 38,000

I know the above numbers don't add up to the "missing" 2 million, but please bear in mind, the 24 million figure I posted in September includes karaoke albums, interview albums and "in the style of" albums (Elton numbers sung by anonymous artists).
Also, a couple of the older albums were released combined, e.g. Tumbleweed/Madman.. which scanned 9,000 copies).


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YOU CAN ALSO CITE FOR US CHARTS in a category called PROJECTS (also if it appears as "various artists")THE SALES FOR
LION KING (OST):7.676
LION KING (Broadway): 548

Please note that for every album sales Soundscan doesn't cover any shop in which you find cds. I've read that you must add a +5% to all soundscan figures to have realistic sales; and a + 10% for special cds like The lion king, candle in the wind, Greatest HitsII where you have a massive distribution and you can find Cds in toys shops, theatres and other places not usually covered by SOUNDSCAN. This explain why for ex for Lion King have been distributed 10k copies, for probably a 8,5k realistc sales.

Interesting also the US sales of the IMPORT double album THE VERY BEST of EJ
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Postby mansfield » Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:15 am

JAPAN
Albums

Elton John 31.000 copies
Tumbleweed connection 24.000
Friends 11.000
17-11-70 9.000
A very special collect. 55.000 (Jap. release)
Madman across the water 32.000
Honky chateau 26.000
Don't shoot me.. 74.000
Best 20 27.000 (Jap. release)
GBYBR 52.000
Caribou 33.000
Greatest Hits 19.000
Captain fantastic 39.000
Rock of the westies 12.000
Here and there 10.000
Blue moves 10.000
A single man 8.000
21 at 33 7.000
Too low for zero 4.090
Breaking hearts 8.580
The One 20.680
Greatest Hits 76-86 2.980
Duets 39.190
Made in England 101.620
Love songs 249.570
GBYBR-Great.Hits 84.000 (Jap. release)
The Big picture 32.440
Songs from t.w.c. 7.230
Greatest Hits 70-02 17.579
Peachtree road 1.281

TOT ALBUMS : 1.030.000


Singles
Friends 13.000
It's me that you need 144.000
Levon 7.000
Crocodile rock 89.000
Daniel 47.000
Saturday night's.. 7.000
Goodbye yellow b.r. 60.000
Step into Christmas 6.000
Philadelphia freedom 6.000
Don't go breaking my heart 25.000
Your song 6.310
Can you feel the love 14.950
Believe 3.470
Your song 52.250
Candle in the wind 632.360
Goodbye y.b.r 2.170

TOT SINGLES : 1.115.500


TOT Albums & singles : 2.145.000
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Postby mansfield » Fri Jan 06, 2006 11:18 am

NEW ZELAND
Albums



A single man - 20.000
21 at 33 - 10.000
The very best 80 - 20.000
Jump up - 20.000
Too low for zero - 20.000
Breaking hearts - 20.000
Ice on fire - 20.000
Leather jackets - 10.000
Sleeping with the past - 10.000
The very best 90 - 20.000
The One - 15.000
Made in England - 7.500
One night only - 15.000

TOT : 207.005
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Postby davedave » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:23 pm

Does Anyone have his singles sales anywhere?
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Postby mansfield » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:33 pm

It's quite impossible to establish Elton's singles sales Worldwide because most of his succesfull singles were in the 70s.

In that time in most of the countries the certificatios didn't exist.

For example : Crocodile rock was the soldest single in 1973 in Italy but I don't know how much it sold.
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Postby nelson » Fri Jan 06, 2006 8:35 pm

Yes, I heard it sold something like 500,000!!!
And yes, we all don't know his singles sales...
But like you always do, guessing, I really would like to read Elton's boy's work. :lol:
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Postby davedave » Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:28 am

Here is a fantastic site created by Mansfield.

the link: http://www.mansfield.altervista.org/worldchart.htm
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Postby mansfield » Sun Jan 08, 2006 2:38 pm

Someone mught be interested.
Elton John VIDEO & DVD sales

VHS - VIDEO

Two Rooms - 1991
USA : 100.000 copies

World Tour - 1993
USA : 50.000


DVDs

One night Only - 2001
USA : 100.000
Brasil : 50.000


Live in Barcelona
Australia : 30.000


Goodbye yellow brick road
Australia : 15.000


The Greatest Hits live
Australia : 30.000
Brasil : 50.000
New Zeland : 5.000

Dream Ticket
Usa : 300.000

I don't know American sales of "The Lion king" (both vhs & dvd) - How many millions has it sold ?
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Postby Dane » Mon Feb 27, 2006 11:37 pm

Hanboo, I posted this question in the Chart histories thread. I guess it belongs in here instead.

Could you inform the correct number for "Greatest hits"? Thanks!

Dane wrote:
Elton's Chart history was recently found in your US chart analysis.
You had "Greatest hits" at 4,546,000 scans.
However, recently I saw one of the rarely seen Soundscan Top 200 Catalog Chart
(BB issue date 31-12-05):

# 173 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 6226 79 3469 3667094

Was your figure wrong or simply a combined figure for different editions?

Thanks.
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Postby dwv » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:22 pm

Here is total sales worldwide from ,it's over 200 mln copies worldwide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elton_John_discography

Worldwide Album Sales
[[1]]

Gold : 500.000 copies Platinum : 1 million copies

Empty Sky 1969 Gold
Elton John 1970 Platinum x 3
Tumbleweed connection 1971 Platinum x 3
Madman across the water 1971 Platinum x 3
Friends (soundtrack) 1971 Gold
Don't shoot me I'm only the piano player 1972 Platinum x 8
Honky Chateau 1972 Platinum x 7
Goodbye yellow brick road 1973 Platinum x 15
Caribou 1974 Platinum x 6
Greatest Hits 1974 Platinum x 24
Rock of the westies 1975 Platinum x 6
Captain fantastic & dirty brown cowboy 1975 Platinum x 7
Here and there (live) 1976 Platinum x 2
Blue moves 1976 Platinum x 4
Greatest Hits vol. 2 1977 Platinum x 8
A single man 1978 Platinum x 4
Victim of love 1979 Platinum
21 at 33 1980 Platinum x 2
The Fox 1981 Platinum x 2
Jump up ! 1982 Platinum x 3
Too low for zero 1983 Platinum x 6
Breaking hearts 1984 Platinum x 4
Ice on fire 1985 Platinum x 4
Leather jackets 1986 Platinum x 2
Greatest Hits vol. 3 1987 Platinum x 2 Released only in USA
Live in Australia 1987 Platinum x 3
Reg strikes back 1988 Platinum x 4
Sleeping with the past 1989 Platinum x 5
To be continued... 1990 Gold Released only in USA
The very best of Elton John 1990 Platinum x 15
Greatest Hits 1976-1986 1992 Platinum x 2 Released only in USA
The One 1992 Platinum x 7
Rare Masters 1993 Gold
Duets 1993 Platinum x 4
Lion King soundtrack 1994 Platinum x 15
Made in England 1995 Platinum x 4
Love songs 1995 Platinum x 11
The big picture 1997 Platinum x 4
Aida (musical) 1999 Platinum x 2
The road to El Dorado (soundtrack) 2000 Platinum
One night Only (live) 2000 Platinum x 2
Songs from the west coast 2001 Platinum x 3
Greatest Hits 1970-2002 2002 Platinum x 7
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Postby nelson » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:55 pm

dwv wrote:Here is total sales worldwide from ,it's over 200 mln copies worldwide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elton_John_discography

Worldwide Album Sales
[[1]]

Gold : 500.000 copies Platinum : 1 million copies
Well Done!!! Dwv, cheers.
Good link.
Yeah, I believe that's the way it is. :lol:
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Postby nelson » Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:59 pm

mansfield wrote:JAPAN
Albums
Peachtree road 1.281
God, it sold 1,281 only??? Pathetic!!!
It proved Elton was far way bad status in Japan.
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Postby Hanboo » Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:48 pm

Dane wrote:Hanboo, I posted this question in the Chart histories thread. I guess it belongs in here instead.

Could you inform the correct number for "Greatest hits"? Thanks!

Dane wrote:
Elton's Chart history was recently found in your US chart analysis.
You had "Greatest hits" at 4,546,000 scans.
However, recently I saw one of the rarely seen Soundscan Top 200 Catalog Chart
(BB issue date 31-12-05):

# 173 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 6226 79 3469 3667094

Was your figure wrong or simply a combined figure for different editions?

Thanks.
The latter. The edition, the only which is still selling and charted on the Catalog chart, is the Island version (rel. 20/10/1992).
The Geffen version sold 894K (rel.01/10/1984).

There are 3 others, which all sold less than 16K. Biggest of those is the DCC one, which scanned 15,700.
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Postby Dane » Wed Mar 01, 2006 4:17 pm

Hanboo wrote:
Dane wrote:Hanboo, I posted this question in the Chart histories thread. I guess it belongs in here instead.

Could you inform the correct number for "Greatest hits"? Thanks!

Dane wrote:
Elton's Chart history was recently found in your US chart analysis.
You had "Greatest hits" at 4,546,000 scans.
However, recently I saw one of the rarely seen Soundscan Top 200 Catalog Chart
(BB issue date 31-12-05):

# 173 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 6226 79 3469 3667094

Was your figure wrong or simply a combined figure for different editions?

Thanks.
The latter. The edition, the only which is still selling and charted on the Catalog chart, is the Island version (rel. 20/10/1992).
The Geffen version sold 894K (rel.01/10/1984).

There are 3 others, which all sold less than 16K. Biggest of those is the DCC one, which scanned 15,700.
Thanks Hanboo, that makes sense. 8-)

Minimum by dec05 then:
3,667,094 + 894,000 + 15,700 = 4,576,794
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Postby lucad » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:34 pm

i think that Worlwid sales from WIKIPEDIA are realistic, but not OFFICIAL.

Also ITALIAN SALES are not official.
Please, always cite where you take details (in Italy there's no a website with certification details)

Please don't post anything like that saying it's official.

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Postby Dane » Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:49 am

Hanboo wrote:The latter. The edition, the only which is still selling and charted on the Catalog chart, is the Island version (rel. 20/10/1992).
The Geffen version sold 894K (rel.01/10/1984).
However, it seems the Island version charted already on the very first catalog chart in May 1991.
According to Amazon.com the Island CD was released October 1990.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000 ... oding=UTF8

Impressive then, that the Geffen version sold 894K during Soundscan!

My catalog thread has now been updated with the combined figure (4.577m).
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Postby Basil » Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:23 pm

Hanboo wrote:
Dane wrote:Hanboo, I posted this question in the Chart histories thread. I guess it belongs in here instead.

Could you inform the correct number for "Greatest hits"? Thanks!

Dane wrote:
Elton's Chart history was recently found in your US chart analysis.
You had "Greatest hits" at 4,546,000 scans.
However, recently I saw one of the rarely seen Soundscan Top 200 Catalog Chart
(BB issue date 31-12-05):

# 173 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 6226 79 3469 3667094

Was your figure wrong or simply a combined figure for different editions?

Thanks.
The latter. The edition, the only which is still selling and charted on the Catalog chart, is the Island version (rel. 20/10/1992).
The Geffen version sold 894K (rel.01/10/1984).

There are 3 others, which all sold less than 16K. Biggest of those is the DCC one, which scanned 15,700.
Thanks too, Hanboo.

The DCC one is interesting.

Could be the failed "Digital Compact Cassette" version.

Could also be a Gold CD version on the DCC label. This label licensed classic albums and produced them in Gold Plated CD versions at about double the price of a normal CD. They were mastered by Steve Hoffman - one of the best ever for transfering analogue tapes to digital. If you see "remastered by Steve Hoffman" on a CD it's a good bet he got the best possible sound out of the source tapes available.

A number of Elton's titles came out on Gold Plated CD's in the US including

Goodbye Yellowbrick Road (1989)
Honky Chateau (1990)
Madman Across the Water (1989)
Tumbleweed Connection (1991)

They are now collectable because of their low sales and because the mastering was different to the regular CD's.

Another item I've also remembered from Elton's catalogue is that

Goodbye Yellowbrick Road was issued on CD in 1984 as a 2CD set. Then in 1992 it was issued on just one CD. The Gold CD in 1989 was also a one CD version.
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Postby Basil » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:38 pm

The first post on this thread has been updated with some new soundscan figures and weeks on catalogue chart.
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Postby Basil » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:34 pm

More updates on Page One.

US sales for The Captain and the Kid are absolutely dreadful - 113,000 and it has already dropped off the chart. Looks like it will fail to even reach Gold level.

No certification in the UK either.

Were any singles actually released off this album??
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Postby dwv » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:54 pm

In Canada
Elton John
"Greatest Hits 1970-2002"
4 X Platinum
400,000 Units

http://www.cria.ca/gold/0205_g.php
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Postby dwv » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:13 pm

Singles USA
Riaa shipment

CROCODILE ROCK Platinum
GOODBYE YELLOW BRICK ROAD Platinum
BENNIE & THE JETS Platinum
DON'T LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON ME Gold
LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS Gold
PHILADELPHIA FREEDOM Platinum
SOMEONE SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT Gold
ISLAND GIRL Platinum
DANIEL Gold
SORRY SEEMS TO BE THE HARDEST WORD Gold
MAMA CAN'T BUY YOU LOVE Gold
LITTLE JEANNIE Gold
CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE TONIGHT Gold
THE BITCH IS BACK Gold
CANDLE IN THE WIND 1997/SOMETHING.YOU LOOK TONIGHT 11 Platinum
TINY DANCER Gold Dig (100k)
ELTON AND LEANN RIMES WRITTEN IN THE STARS Gold
GEORGE MICHAEL /Elton John DON'T LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON ME Gold

TOTAL SINGLES (shipment)

21,5 millions

100k digital
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Postby dwv » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:08 am

New platinum certification
To Be Continued John, Elton 11/6/1990 MCA 11/28/2006

http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/riaa/index.jsp
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