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Postby Basil » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:52 pm

dwv wrote:New platinum certification
To Be Continued John, Elton 11/6/1990 MCA 11/28/2006

Thanks dwv. This one was re-issued a year or so ago with an initial pressing of 50,000.

This box has sold more than his latest album. :-?


Strange they did this one and not an update of Greatest Hits 1970-2002.
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Postby dwv » Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:43 am

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dwv wrote:New platinum certification
To Be Continued John, Elton 11/6/1990 MCA 11/28/2006

Thanks dwv. This one was re-issued a year or so ago with an initial pressing of 50,000.

This box has sold more than his latest album. :-?

Strange they did this one and not an update of Greatest Hits 1970-2002.
I think the same thing.
GH 70/02 has scanned 2118837 , it should be 4 x platinum
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Postby lucad » Fri Dec 22, 2006 10:51 am

Well, actually Elton is not in good relationship with Universal because lack of promotion of his last album.
I think also a record company must pay a little fee for certification. I think this can explain a bit the situation....
Also, if GH 70-02 is 2.118.000 in soundscan sales, it means that is about at 2.300.000 in real sales (adding the sales that soundscan does'nt cover).
If platinum is for distribution, it has to be, or is very near, the 5xPlatinum (2.500.000 distributed for double albums.
Actually, To BE CONTINUED results a MCA certification, not Universal...
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Postby Basil » Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:02 am

lucad wrote:Well, actually Elton is not in good relationship with Universal because lack of promotion of his last album.
I think also a record company must pay a little fee for certification. I think this can explain a bit the situation....
Also, if GH 70-02 is 2.118.000 in soundscan sales, it means that is about at 2.300.000 in real sales (adding the sales that soundscan does'nt cover).
If platinum is for distribution, it has to be, or is very near, the 5xPlatinum (2.500.000 distributed for double albums.
Actually, To BE CONTINUED results a MCA certification, not Universal...
Interesting post lucad.

The new album has certainly sunk without trace. Were any singles released in the US or the UK? I never saw any.

Seems the best track, Tinderbox, is being released in the UK early in the new year.

Can't see Elton releasing any more albums now. This was a great record (unlike, say, Leather Jackets) and it's hard to see how he can make a better one.

Bob Dylan's latest has been a huge hit and he is a lot older! Seems Universal just couldn't be bothered. A Shame.
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Postby Basil » Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:10 pm

dwv wrote:Singles USA
Riaa shipment

CROCODILE ROCK Platinum
GOODBYE YELLOW BRICK ROAD Platinum
BENNIE & THE JETS Platinum
DON'T LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON ME Gold
LUCY IN THE SKY WITH DIAMONDS Gold
PHILADELPHIA FREEDOM Platinum
SOMEONE SAVED MY LIFE TONIGHT Gold
ISLAND GIRL Platinum
DANIEL Gold
SORRY SEEMS TO BE THE HARDEST WORD Gold
MAMA CAN'T BUY YOU LOVE Gold
LITTLE JEANNIE Gold
CAN YOU FEEL THE LOVE TONIGHT Gold
THE BITCH IS BACK Gold
CANDLE IN THE WIND 1997/SOMETHING.YOU LOOK TONIGHT 11 Platinum
TINY DANCER Gold Dig (100k)
ELTON AND LEANN RIMES WRITTEN IN THE STARS Gold
GEORGE MICHAEL /Elton John DON'T LET THE SUN GO DOWN ON ME Gold

TOTAL SINGLES (shipment)

21,5 millions

100k digital
This list is not all correct

Crocodile Rock - 1,000,000
Daniel - 500,000
Goodbye Yellowbrick Road - 1,000,000
Bennie & the Jets - 1,000,000
Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds - 1,000,000
Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me - 1,000,000
Island Girl - 1,000,000
Philadelphia Freedom - 1,000,000
Don't Go Breaking My Heart - 1,000,000
Candle in the Wind 97 - 11,000,000
The Bitch is Back - 500,000
Someone Saved My Life Tonight - 1,000,000
Sorry Seems to Be - 1,000,000
Little Jeannie - 1,000,000
Can You Feel the Love Tonight - 500,000
Mama Can't Buy Me Love - 1,000,000
Written in the Stars - 500,000

Total - 25,000,000 Singles Shipped.

This total is exactly double that of Michael Jackson, for example, who has 12,500,000 shipped.

Elvis is the Top singles seller in the US with 52,000,000 shipped plus 7,500,000 EP's.
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Postby Basil » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:24 pm

Thanks to Hanboo I've been able to update some of the soundscan figures - First Page, First Post.
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Postby Basil » Thu Feb 15, 2007 11:43 pm

Elton's US Tours

Elton's US debut at the tiny Whiskey club in LA (August 1970) made him an instant star and started a touring career that is now in it's 38th year.

From 1970 the annual US tours got bigger with the biggest taking in 7 nights at Madison Square Garden where he dressed as the Statue Of Liberty! :D

We've no grosses/attendances for the years 1970 to 1991, but it seems he performed several thousand concerts worldwide.

It's possible on the internet to find lists of all the concerts ever played by some artists even way back to the 60's. Such lists exist for the likes of The Rolling Stones and Pink Floyd. But I can't find any info at all on Elton John.


In more recent years the long long tours have ended. Rather he does strings of dates all over the world including short Las Vegas seasons.

Billboard reported that from 1991 to 2006 he performed to 10,000,000 people in the US alone. A total of 600 US shows meaning he does about 40 US shows a year.

Total gross for these shows was $600,000,000. Decent spending money.

But March 25th will be a real landmark. Yes, it's my birthday.

However it is also Elton's (and Aretha Franklin's). 8-)

Elton will be 60 and will perform his 60th sold out show at Madison Square Garden. A record way ahead of any other artist.

How neat is that. :D
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Postby dwv » Fri Feb 16, 2007 9:13 am

Thanks Basil and of course Han.
You should only update Canada's shipment:
"Greatest Hits 1970-2002"
4 X Platinum
400,000 Units

http://www.cria.ca/gold/0205_g.php

A new release from Elton,"Rocket Man, the definitive hits", a CD/DVD compilation of some of his best songs and moments. Release March 26.
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Postby NothingFails » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:24 am

ANOTHER Elton hits package??? :roll:
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Postby Basil » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:57 pm

dwv wrote:Thanks Basil and of course Han.
You should only update Canada's shipment:
"Greatest Hits 1970-2002"
4 X Platinum
400,000 Units

Hi dwv.

The cria copies the riaa in counting double CD sets twice, so this has actually shipped 200,000 copies.
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Postby Basil » Sun Feb 18, 2007 2:59 pm

NothingFails wrote:ANOTHER Elton hits package??? :roll:
I agree.

It will sell a pathetic amount and is a complete waste of time.
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Postby dwv » Tue Apr 03, 2007 10:51 am

Rocket Man-Definitive hits
# 2 in UK 31.250
#11 in Australia
# 12 New Zeland gold

We are waiting for Soundscan's figures
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Postby dwv » Tue Apr 03, 2007 12:30 pm

Greatest Hits 1970-2002 total sales in UK 1,436,000

http://www.chcmedia.com/forums/index.ph ... opic=12410
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Postby lucad » Tue Apr 03, 2007 4:38 pm

Well, adding a +5% from various not scanned sales, Greatest Hits 1970-2002 has to be certified 5xPlatinum in uk (1,500.000 copies).

In Us double album is counted for 2. Not it's nearly 2.200.000 copies that means 4xPlatinum (4,4 million) and near 5Xplatinum (2.500.000 copies distributed).

Why Universal did not certified them is in my opinion the same matter for not promoting The Captain and The kid... Relationshipo between them and elton has gone.
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Postby lucad » Wed Apr 04, 2007 3:54 pm

ROCKET MAN compilation enters at n.9 in US Billboard Chart with around 49.000 copies.
It's the 16th EJ top 10 album in US.
See Bilboard link:
http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/news/art ... 1003567085
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Postby thebigham » Wed Apr 04, 2007 4:09 pm

Billboard:

Elton John visits the top 10 of The Billboard 200 for the first time in nearly 10 years as "Rocket Man: Number Ones" bows at No. 9 with 49,000 units -- his 16th top 10 album. His last set to reach the top 10 was "The Big Picture," which also hit No. 9 back in the fall of 1997.

The new "Rocket Man" set is John's 7th greatest-hits album to hit The Billboard 200, dating back to 1974's "Greatest Hits." Since then, he has released "Greatest Hits, Volume II" (1977), "Greatest Hits, Volume III, 1979-1987" (1987), the ballads set "Love Songs" (1996), the live hits compilation "One Night Only - The Greatest Hits" (2000) and the double-disc "Greatest Hits 1970-2002" (2002).
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Postby NothingFails » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:40 pm

kinda sucks that he releases new albums that don't seem to do well, but then repackage those hits for the 22nd time and you've got another hit album. I mean, the 70's was Elton's classic period, but his last three studio albums all deserved to do much better than they have.
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Postby Basil » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:13 am

NothingFails wrote:kinda sucks that he releases new albums that don't seem to do well, but then repackage those hits for the 22nd time and you've got another hit album. I mean, the 70's was Elton's classic period, but his last three studio albums all deserved to do much better than they have.
Totally agree.

No idea who is buying this record (the casual casual buyer?), but I reckon it will drop down the chart quickly.

May struggle to Gold status later in the year, in which case it may be his last Gold record. Can't see him bothering to release any more studio albums after disastrous sales of Cpt and the Kid. Everyone has to stop eventually I suppose.
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Postby lucad » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:24 am

You are too negative, basil :-) I agree with you, Elton won't relase any studio album, but for universal. But it will go on forever, let's hope he'll remain in this good crative mood.
But elton is still elton. See what happened to Rod Stewart after 2 disastrous sales album. He invented a format and sell a lot more records again.
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Postby dwv » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:59 am

We are waiting for Greatest Hits 1970-2002's 4 x platinum ,maybe this week...
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Postby thebigham » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:17 pm

dwv wrote:We are waiting for Greatest Hits 1970-2002's 4 x platinum ,maybe this week...
I think you are going to have a long wait.
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Postby thebigham » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:22 pm

3/17/07 Catalog Chart:

83 JOHN*ELTON GREATEST HITS 1970-2002 2598 -11% 2905 2,165,318 (3xp)
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Postby dwv » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:32 pm

thebigham wrote:
dwv wrote:We are waiting for Greatest Hits 1970-2002's 4 x platinum ,maybe this week...
I think you are going to have a long wait.
It's a double album 2,165 x 2 = 4,33 :wink: .
Thanks a lot for Soundscan's figures :wink:
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Postby thebigham » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:43 pm

I know it's a double album. I know it's eligible for 4xp, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen soon.
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Postby Basil » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:34 pm

lucad wrote:You are too negative, basil :-) I agree with you, Elton won't relase any studio album, but for universal. But it will go on forever, let's hope he'll remain in this good crative mood.
But elton is still elton. See what happened to Rod Stewart after 2 disastrous sales album. He invented a format and sell a lot more records again.
I hope you're right, lucad.

As you said, the relationship between Universal and Elton has gone. The worst part of this is that they may never certify any of his albums again.

The Cpt & the Kid was a good album (miles better then stuff like Leather Jackets) but Universal totally lost it - not just in the US, but everywhere.

It's sad for an artist of his stature to get such shabby treatment.

Because of his label changes over 30 years in the US, it is likely that the riaa awards don't give the full story of his US sales. Universal won't bother to fix this.

I don't think covers albums are an option for Elton, and he said he'd do a Christmas album "over his dead body". :D

Perhaps the Paul McCartney route like Starbucks, or Garth Brooks with Wal-Mart.

Let's hope he can sort something out!
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