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Postby Thriller » Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:29 am

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I looked into this because the BBC are reporting it's the most cut film by the BBFC in 16 years.

Judging from the chat on IMDB and description on Wikipedia it sounds like one of the most depraved soul-shattering films ever, from the description I never want to watch it but there's a tiny part of me that is curious. It's makes usual cinema horror like Saw sound like Harry Potter. I'm surprised it's even legal!
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Postby Charmbracelet » Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:22 pm

It sounds disgusting
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Postby Hugo » Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:28 pm

Horrible :-? :-? :-? :-?
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Postby RaFanatic » Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:29 pm

Believe me,you dont want to watch it!

Im so disappointed in our actors because they are acting in this,so called, movie :-?
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Postby Hugo » Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:32 pm

They went too far with this one, it's sickening and I'm just reading the plot :-?
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Postby themusicking » Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:37 pm

That link seems to be broken.


Can you let me know the name of that movie... you have got me curious now....

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Postby themusicking » Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:03 pm

I just realised the name of the film is "A Serbian Film".... rather than just a film from serbia lol...

Anyway, had a look on the web and it sounds disgusting.
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Postby jonasmileynlt » Sun Nov 28, 2010 5:42 pm

Why would anyone want to watch this movie? It seems so sick
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Postby Blondini » Sun Dec 05, 2010 2:29 am

The film was released to great controversy in terms of its graphic and often sexually explicit violence. Screenwriter Srdjan Spasojevic has responded to the controversy with "This is a diary of our own molestation by the Serbian government... It's about the monolithic power of leaders who hypnotize you to do things you don’t want to do. You have to feel the violence to know what it’s about."[22]

Tim Anderson of the horror review site "Bloody Disgusting" likened the movie to "having [his] soul raped" and dissuaded anyone reading his review from ever seeing it, writing: "If what I have written here is enough to turn your feelings of wonder into a burning desire to watch this monstrosity, then perhaps I haven't been clear enough. You don't want to see Serbian Film. You just think you do." [6]

Total Film mag describes the film as too over-the-top to take seriously - more Hammer campness than true horror with ridiculous unbelievable performances. The "newborn porn" scene has been completely removed. It seems you have to be Serbian to understand/ tolerate the film.
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Postby RaFanatic » Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:26 am

Blondini wrote:
Total Film mag describes the film as too over-the-top to take seriously - more Hammer campness than true horror with ridiculous unbelievable performances. The "newborn porn" scene has been completely removed. It seems you have to be Serbian to understand/ tolerate the film.
Um,what?! :o :-?

You think we Serbians are psycho's or something? None of us tolerate this movie.
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Postby Blondini » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:35 pm

RaFanatic wrote:
Blondini wrote:
Total Film mag describes the film as too over-the-top to take seriously - more Hammer campness than true horror with ridiculous unbelievable performances. The "newborn porn" scene has been completely removed. It seems you have to be Serbian to understand/ tolerate the film.
Um,what?! :o :-?

You think we Serbians are psycho's or something? None of us tolerate this movie.
He says the film relates to the way the government has "raped" the people. I wasn't saying you're all sick - just that that is the only rationale for the film.
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Postby jio » Sun Dec 05, 2010 8:42 pm

OK seems that none here has actually seen it (except RaFanatic) and they are commenting by reading the plot and the reviews only only. I saw it and reviewed it in the "What movie u just watched" ( http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewtopic.p ... start=1500 )thread and here is what I wrote then:

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A Serbian Film: this serbian movie takes "Hostel" to its next level. Once again the acting is superb (although not as good as in "Hard Candy") but this comes complete with serious nudity and gore. The subject matter here is similar to "Hard Candy" only presented in a much more disturbing manner and it does also make a commentary on the social/political situation in Serbia. Now this is an excellent movie by any measure and I highly recommend it as well but it is definitely not for the non-horror fans, even horror fans will be disturbed by this one. Probably the best horror I have seen in ages (which is more impressive considering the fact that it comes from a country with no tradition in the genre as far as I know, then again I think this movie would have never been allowed to be filmed in the USA anyway) and a highly artistic, original and effective film.
Well to add something more, this is one of the best films I have seen this year. So don't listen to those reviews and judge it just when u see it. This is a georgeous and at the same time a very disturbing and a very intelligent film. Comments such as "I don't want to see it because I read something bad about it" are just puritanic, conservative and non-artistic.
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Postby RaFanatic » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:00 pm

^If you're talking about quality of the movie,scenes and everything - that's amazing but story line is just horrible :-?

And Blondini,sorry,i missunderstood :oops:
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Postby jio » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:00 pm

Thriller wrote:It's makes usual cinema horror like Saw sound like Harry Potter. I'm surprised it's even legal!
Yes it does that's true. And yes it's not for children. But no there is no reason for this film to be illegal

RaFanatic wrote:Im so disappointed in our actors because they are acting in this,so called, movie
Have you seen it? I would be proud if we were making such a movie. It is challenging, daring and touches on a matter which is very much real around the world. It is slightly over the top but not by much.

Jonasmileynlt wrote:Why would anyone want to watch this movie? It seems so sick
Because it's good, it's different and it's strong

Blondini wrote:Hammer campness than true horror with ridiculous unbelievable performances. The "newborn porn" scene has been completely removed
Em ok first of all it is not a true horror, it is more close to the "Hostel" type of films than classic horror albeit with more of a plot. I saw the version with the "newborn-porn" scene. I have to say that that scene was not the most disturbing in the film although it was the most over-the-top scene. Removing that scene does not make the film any less disturbing (neither does it take away anything from the film) and if people saw the film and focused on that particular scene they missed the plot completely or didn't wait until the end to understand its function
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Postby jio » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:05 pm

RaFanatic wrote:^If you're talking about quality of the movie,scenes and everything - that's amazing but story line is just horrible :-?

And Blondini,sorry,i missunderstood :oops:
The story line is very similar to Hostel and Saw but unlike Saw which is basically gore with a minimum plot and nothing to think about, this one leaves you thinking stuff so I would say it is a better film than either Hostel or Saw
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Postby RaFanatic » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:05 pm

jio wrote:Have you seen it? I would be proud if we were making such a movie. It is challenging, daring and touches on a matter which is very much real around the world. It is slightly over the top but not by much.
Yes,i've seen it and i agree with you with some parts but a lot of people are thinking that Serb's are like charecter's in this movie. And that's just so wrong. It would be ok if they titled the movie differently.

I read some comments on other forums and blogs and they think that we are animals and so on :-?
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Postby jio » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:22 pm

Yeah I have read those as well, but you know those are crap coming from ignorant people. It's really funny that this thing seems to always happen with the two countries I like the most in the world... lol. Slovakia (where I lived for some time) got similar bashing after the "Hostel" movies and that was then re-inforced by the "Eurotrip" Slovak bit and then it was the turn of Serbia (where I have done a couple of great month-long road trips). I can understand why directors choose such countries, but I frankly cannot understand why anyone would forget that these are films and not documentaries.
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Postby RaFanatic » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:26 pm

jio wrote:Yeah I have read those as well, but you know those are crap coming from ignorant people. It's really funny that this thing seems to always happen with the two countries I like the most in the world... lol. Slovakia (where I lived for some time) got similar bashing after the "Hostel" movies and that was then re-inforced by the "Eurotrip" Slovak bit and then it was the turn of Serbia (where I have done a couple of great month-long road trips). I can understand why directors choose such countries, but I frankly cannot understand why anyone would forget that these are films and not documentaries.
Exactly! And its getting on my nerves! Director of this movie and others should think well before choosing name for the movie because of the people :lol:

But like i said,they did an AMAZING job filming this but i really dont like the story line. I barely watched it,i had to hid behind pillows :lol:
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Postby jio » Sun Dec 05, 2010 9:48 pm

I think that the director wanted to make some sort of social commentary which is why he named it "A Serbian movie" I saw it almost 2 months ago so I don't really remember but there are several parts where the porn producer is talking about the Serbian state.

Although personally I think the social commentary is a bit forced, Serbian modern history is very much the history of a nation "raped" by its governments starting from the redrawing of the borders within federal Yugoslavia which essentially gave regions with Serbian majorities to Bosnia and that became a major reason for the Bosnian war later on and its results, then Milosevic taking advantage of the Kosovo issue to raise nationalism and stay in power, no matter the consequences for Serbia and the western Balkans in general.

It also can be seen in a different way. I never read any review pointing this out but if you remember there were several stories during the Kosovo war circulating western media presenting the Serbs as blood-thirsty killers and everyone else as innocent victims (which cannot be true in any conflict around the world) and we also had the EU (mainly but not only because of the Dutch) making Serbia's accession depended on the arrest of an individual and the loss of sovereignty over Kosovo, which are extremely harsh preconditions. So by naming this film "A Serbian movie", it was a bit like giving to the west what they believed anyway.It's a bit like saying: "You present us as animals, here is a movie depicting (a few) Serbs as animals so eat it up" lol
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Postby Thriller » Sun Dec 05, 2010 10:18 pm

Nice to get some other viewpoints on this. I met a Serbian girl when I was travelling and she was incredibly friendly, so I certainly don't think they're all in to torture porn!
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Postby RaFanatic » Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:58 am

Thriller wrote:Nice to get some other viewpoints on this. I met a Serbian girl when I was travelling and she was incredibly friendly, so I certainly don't think they're all in to torture porn!
Believe me,Serbian people are very nice and friendly :)

jio wrote:I think that the director wanted to make some sort of social commentary which is why he named it "A Serbian movie" I saw it almost 2 months ago so I don't really remember but there are several parts where the porn producer is talking about the Serbian state.

Although personally I think the social commentary is a bit forced, Serbian modern history is very much the history of a nation "raped" by its governments starting from the redrawing of the borders within federal Yugoslavia which essentially gave regions with Serbian majorities to Bosnia and that became a major reason for the Bosnian war later on and its results, then Milosevic taking advantage of the Kosovo issue to raise nationalism and stay in power, no matter the consequences for Serbia and the western Balkans in general.

It also can be seen in a different way. I never read any review pointing this out but if you remember there were several stories during the Kosovo war circulating western media presenting the Serbs as blood-thirsty killers and everyone else as innocent victims (which cannot be true in any conflict around the world) and we also had the EU (mainly but not only because of the Dutch) making Serbia's accession depended on the arrest of an individual and the loss of sovereignty over Kosovo, which are extremely harsh preconditions. So by naming this film "A Serbian movie", it was a bit like giving to the west what they believed anyway.It's a bit like saying: "You present us as animals, here is a movie depicting (a few) Serbs as animals so eat it up" lol
Im impressed with your knowledge about our governemnt and everything :o :lol:
I was never interested in governemnt and all that sh*t though :oops: :)
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Postby Merci » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:36 pm

Thriller wrote:Nice to get some other viewpoints on this. I met a Serbian girl when I was travelling and she was incredibly friendly, so I certainly don't think they're all in to torture porn!
:lol: :lol:

I'll quote what I wrote on the 'horror thread'! btw, can a mod change that thread title to 'Horror movies discussing, please?

Merci wrote:I watched 'A Serbian film' (on youtube of all places) and wow I'm officially heartless, I thought it's not half as bad as people were saying.. maybe because I was expecting the most disgusting thing ever, like I read on a youtube comment something about them eating shit.. :-? which didn't happen.. unless I've watched a cut version! I did turn away for few seconds on some scenes, though

anyway, my curiosity can shut up now :lol:
Merci wrote:I think that most people are overreacting tbh.. like if you read the youtube comments, you'd think it's something way worse.. comments like, I couldn't eat for a week after watching it, etc.. please!

ok it's bad but maybe because I watched it on youtube/not the best quality, I kept thinking it's just a movie..
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Also, why would people think that the Serbian people are sick because of this? the main plot is that the actor is disgusted by all of this.. and it's some kind of "secret" project, not like they portrayed it like it's a natural thing and their version of porn
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Postby CrazyCrazy » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:41 pm

Heard about this years ago haven't bothered with it yet, gone off horrors lately, they just make me feel too depressed. :lol:
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Postby Thriller » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:03 pm

I still haven't brought myself to watch this. If it wasn't for the stuff involving children I probably would but I just can't deal with that aspect.
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Postby Spartan » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:54 pm

Thriller wrote:I still haven't brought myself to watch this. If it wasn't for the stuff involving children I probably would but I just can't deal with that aspect.
I don't think it's actually as bad as people make out, but you do have to be fairly thick skinned to watch it.
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