The Spice Girls WILL reunite in 2018

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Postby Loveguru » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:52 pm

Let this die already
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Postby NothingFails » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:06 pm

I get why Justin Timberlake won't commit to NSYNC
I get why Beyonce won't commit to Destiny's Child

but fashion IMO is so superficial and its a shame Victoria is screwing the fans over because she found an income that doesn't include music. She IMO is no Beyonce or JT and by all means they should just treat her the way Take That treated Robbie Williams and say bye Felicia to her. Music lasts longer than fashion IMO.
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Postby MrDiva » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:23 pm

Ok honestly I’d rather have them not ruin what’s they once stood for with a half assed reunion than having them tour with VB not wanting to

Why force it?
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Postby NothingFails » Sun Feb 11, 2018 7:39 pm

MrDiva wrote:Ok honestly I’d rather have them not ruin what’s they once stood for with a half assed reunion than having them tour with VB not wanting to

Why force it?
Sometimes the best thing to do for older acts is to get rid of the deadweight and move on. Peter Hook decided New Order were supposed to break up because he didn't want to be in there anymore... they carried on without him after lawsuits and everything and the first record without him was their best in over 25 years... while Hook is off playing in a self-tribute band. I could easily see Spice Girls go on without Victoria just like they did fine without Geri (who had more of a solo career than Victoria had).
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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:12 pm

NothingFails wrote:Sometimes the best thing to do for older acts is to get rid of the deadweight and move on. Peter Hook decided New Order were supposed to break up because he didn't want to be in there anymore... they carried on without him after lawsuits and everything and the first record without him was their best in over 25 years... while Hook is off playing in a self-tribute band. I could easily see Spice Girls go on without Victoria just like they did fine without Geri (who had more of a solo career than Victoria had).
Spice Girls never did good without Geri. Geri destroyed them.

....Geri was an important and valuable member tho, on the other hand I have to agree, Victoria was definately the filler member of the group (the Lance Bass of the group) while the other 4 (Geri, Mel C, Mel B and Emma) were the most essential memebrs, Victoria always sang the least, she had the least lines, she was always behind, she had less shots in the music videos, etc, Spice Girls were all about the other 4 ladies who were all equally lead.
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Postby NothingFails » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:03 pm

MrLeonix wrote:
NothingFails wrote:Sometimes the best thing to do for older acts is to get rid of the deadweight and move on. Peter Hook decided New Order were supposed to break up because he didn't want to be in there anymore... they carried on without him after lawsuits and everything and the first record without him was their best in over 25 years... while Hook is off playing in a self-tribute band. I could easily see Spice Girls go on without Victoria just like they did fine without Geri (who had more of a solo career than Victoria had).
Spice Girls never did good without Geri. Geri destroyed them.

....Geri was an important and valuable member tho, on the other hand I have to agree, Victoria was definately the filler member of the group (the Lance Bass of the group) while the other 4 (Geri, Mel C, Mel B and Emma) were the most essential memebrs, Victoria always sang the least, she had the least lines, she was always behind, she had less shots in the music videos, etc, Spice Girls were all about the other 4 ladies who were all equally lead.
Well, Forever was a disaster but that also had a lot to do with timing, they were gone too long and so much had happened in the pop world (Britney, Christina, NSYNC got big, etc...) that they were old news by the end of 2000 when they came back, but the only time Spice had a US tour besides the reunion was post-Geri and the ticket sales weren't hurt a bit and their post-Geri US tour was still a big seller and it was the only way American fans saw them in their prime. Forever was going to bomb regardless because they were gone too long and the pop world had dramatically changed, but their initial tour post-Geri did very well and even "Goodbye" did fine as a single.
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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:29 pm

While I agree their absense in 1999 coincided with a new peak of teen pop stars I don't think it was enough to simply make them bomb like that, its not like they were gone for 5 years or something :lol: ... They had 3 global hit singles in 1998 ("Stop", "Viva forever" and "Goodbye") and they had a new album ready in 2000. It was ok IMO.

The reason they bombed was IMO due to an obvious struggle to musically evolve, they were pretty much running out of ideas and Geri leaving deteriorated the group tremendously.

Overall I think Victoria rather than flattered feels quite embarrased to be associated with the Spice Girls brand in 2018, I know she is thankful for being in the group and she enjoyed the experience tremendously, but she's just a mature woman now who clearly has MOVED ON and who probably sees The Spice Girls as something from the past that she did when she was starting out and younger, she now has a different life and she successfully transitioned into the Fashion Industry where she is respected and where probably being linked with a Teen bubblegum band from the 90s is seen as tacky or cheap for her brand and business in Fashion.

The other girls' obsession with relying on their past glory probably has to do with the fact they don't have nothing else that could be more exiciting than The Spice Girls, ... Emma is what? A Radio host? I mean ...... Also I swear I have seen Mel B hosting Beauty Pageants on TV, Geri tried hard and as soon as she realized she was never going to be the next big Pop star she run back to the group she had already abandoned and I have no idea what Mel C is even doing in 2018. Its only logical these girls want to milk The Spice Girls over and over again.
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Postby NothingFails » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:36 pm

I think the real problem is that the Spice Girls were always meant to be a supernova... they had a really bright moment in 1996-1998 but they were never meant to be an act who was going to have a really long career outside of nostalgia pandering.

I think the reason it seems funniest about Victoria holding them back is because like said, she was probably the least talented one of all... it would be like Justin having interest in doing an NSYNC reunion tour but Lance Bass being the holdout refusing to let it happen.
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Postby MrLeonix » Sun Feb 11, 2018 10:47 pm

NothingFails wrote:I think the real problem is that the Spice Girls were always meant to be a supernova... they had a really bright moment in 1996-1998 but they were never meant to be an act who was going to have a really long career outside of nostalgia pandering.
.. And trust me, Victoria definately knew that from the beginning, she's a business woman and she knows how it works.... The other ladies on the other hand seem to be completely out of touch with reality.

NothingFails wrote:I think the reason it seems funniest about Victoria holding them back is because like said, she was probably the least talented one of all... it would be like Justin having interest in doing an NSYNC reunion tour but Lance Bass being the holdout refusing to let it happen.
Its really ironic indeed. The least and backup member is now the one who prevents the attempted reunions.

In N'sync Justin and JC were the leads and the other guys were background support, in Destiny's Child Beyonce was the lead, Kelly the second lead and Michelle the least. But with Spice Girls it was very particular because 4/5 members were all leads in equal conditions, Emma, Geri, Mel C and Mel B all played Lead just like every Friends' cast member played Lead, you just couldn't point out who was more or less important, they were all equal and marketed as such. Victoria on the other hand was the only member who didn't play lead, she was the only supporting member of the group.

In other words.... Geri, Mel C, Emma and Mel B were what Teri Hatcher, Felicity Huffman, Marcia Cross, and Eva longoria were for Desperate Housewives ........ And Victoria was the Nicolette Sheridan.
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Postby SholasBoy » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:17 pm

The weird thing is with Victoria refusing to sing etc is that she was the one who seemed most desperate to prove herself and have a successful solo career.
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Postby menime123 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:32 pm

SholasBoy wrote:The weird thing is with Victoria refusing to sing etc is that she was the one who seemed most desperate to prove herself and have a successful solo career.
She wanted that solo #1. Crime she didn’t. She stopped trying after 4 singles anyway :lol:
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Postby Loveguru » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:58 am

Victoria brought in POP CULTURE in spice girls. I mean guys POSH in a verb now because of her :lol:

Also she is the marketable one RIGHT now.
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Postby menime123 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:53 pm

Loveguru wrote:Victoria brought in POP CULTURE in spice girls. I mean guys POSH in a verb now because of her :lol:

Also she is the marketable one RIGHT now.
It’s not an English verb :lol:
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Postby biscuits » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:52 am

menime123 wrote:
Loveguru wrote:Victoria brought in POP CULTURE in spice girls. I mean guys POSH in a verb now because of her :lol:

Also she is the marketable one RIGHT now.
It’s not an English verb :lol:
I posh
You posh
He/she/it poshes
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Postby menime123 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 11:53 am

biscuits wrote:
menime123 wrote:
Loveguru wrote:Victoria brought in POP CULTURE in spice girls. I mean guys POSH in a verb now because of her :lol:

Also she is the marketable one RIGHT now.
It’s not an English verb :lol:
I posh
You posh
He/she/it poshes
Erm... no. That’s totally not a thing and totally not legit English language :lol:
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