Forbes: biggest musical flops of 2017

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Postby Wayne » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:38 pm

I think new Mariah will sell less than new Shania.

Will certainly be a very interesting year if the big 3 females all release.
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Postby stevyy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 7:57 pm

Wayne wrote:I think new Mariah will sell less than new Shania.

Will certainly be a very interesting year if the big 3 females all release.
Mariah needs a great comeback strategy and a fantastic lead-single. With the Stella controversy and all, I smell a Oprah Special: Tell all - My life with Satan

SONY will bring back this "Return of the Voice" campaign

If they milk the past 2-3 years right, I can see it working out for Mariah.
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Postby Wayne » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:06 pm

Sony won't do any of that.
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Postby stevyy » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:08 pm

Wayne wrote:Sony won't do any of that.
maybe ButterflyMCRecords will. Technically this is going to be her debut album.
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Postby SummerPeur » Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:42 pm

Wayne wrote:
Will certainly be a very interesting year if the big 3 females all release.
Yes it will be with Kylie :cry: :cry:

(Haha I'm just kidding, I know she isn't classified as one of the big females)
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Postby Gravity » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:25 am

The delusions :lol:
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Postby Ewokguy15 » Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:57 am

Gravity wrote:The delusions :lol:
Tell me about it. One half ok performance and Mariah back on top :roll: . Of the music is as lacklustre as her last 3 albums nothing will come of it.

Since when were Celine, Mariah and Madonna the big 3? Did I miss something? They didn’t even peak in the same decades.
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Postby spiritboy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:23 am

Ewokguy15 wrote:
Gravity wrote:The delusions :lol:
Tell me about it. One half ok performance and Mariah back on top :roll: . Of the music is as lacklustre as her last 3 albums nothing will come of it.

Since when were Celine, Mariah and Madonna the big 3? Did I miss something? They didn’t even peak in the same decades.
They are the best selling female artists. Isn't that enough? :lol:
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Postby Serby » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:37 am

DOSSOME wrote:Nelly Furtado released an album last year? :o :o
Ikr. She really feels like the bihgest flop cosidering her chart history.
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Postby stevyy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 10:59 am

Ewokguy15 wrote:
Gravity wrote:The delusions :lol:
Tell me about it. One half ok performance and Mariah back on top :roll: . Of the music is as lacklustre as her last 3 albums nothing will come of it.

Since when were Celine, Mariah and Madonna the big 3? Did I miss something? They didn’t even peak in the same decades.
chartsmasters :: Mariah's last 3 albums were

2014 - 300,000 WW - Me. I am Mariah... The Elusive Chanteuse
#15 - 2x platinum - #Beauiful
#88 - uncertified - You're Mine (Eternal)

2010 - 850,000 WW - 1x Gold - Merry Christmas II You
#100 - uncertified - Oh! Santa

2009 - 1,050,000 WW - 1x Gold - Memoirs of an imperfect Angel
#7 - 1x platinum - Obsessed
#60 - uncertified - I want to know what Love Is
#100 - uncertified - Up Out My Face

This looks fine to me in order to total eras. 1 million albums certified + 3 million singles certified.
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Postby Debs_Wild » Thu Jan 04, 2018 3:54 pm

Ewokguy15 wrote:
Gravity wrote:The delusions :lol:
Tell me about it. One half ok performance and Mariah back on top :roll: . Of the music is as lacklustre as her last 3 albums nothing will come of it.

Since when were Celine, Mariah and Madonna the big 3? Did I miss something? They didn’t even peak in the same decades.
Cher will rise from the ashes like a phoenix and outsell them all. 8-)
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Postby heppolo » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:04 pm

Serby wrote:
DOSSOME wrote:Nelly Furtado released an album last year? :o :o
Ikr. She really feels like the bihgest flop cosidering her chart history.
In terms of singles charts, every notable rock band has been a flop since 2015. Albums and tours somehow keep them financially afloat
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Postby stevyy » Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:11 pm

heppolo wrote:
Serby wrote:
DOSSOME wrote:Nelly Furtado released an album last year? :o :o
Ikr. She really feels like the bihgest flop cosidering her chart history.
In terms of singles charts, every notable rock band has been a flop since 2015. Albums and tours somehow keep them financially afloat
apart from the odd 100k UK gold cert... rock bands do worse than female R&B singers.

Kings of Leon and Killers were smeared with poo by letting their albums tank like that. For that alone I hope pop girls fail for the rest of eternity.
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Postby SummerPeur » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:59 pm

stevyy wrote:
Kings of Leon and Killers were smeared with poo
Oh god Stevyy you make me laugh :lol: :lol:
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Postby BlueScorpion » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:25 am

Living for STEVYY right now. :lol:

Mariah's studio album will be her first in for years... IFFFFF she releases this year. But she's been doing music collaborations and always on the spotlight, people don't really miss her.
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Postby JSparksFan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 1:37 am

DOSSOME wrote:Nelly Furtado released an album last year? :o :o
This + B.o.B!
And the category is: LIVE. WORK. POSE!
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Postby ArmyOfMe » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:13 pm

stevyy wrote:
Kings of Leon and Killers were smeared with poo
Well, Kings of Leon and poo is a match made in heaven, to be fair.
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Postby Wayne » Fri Jan 05, 2018 12:41 pm

I can remember when Kings of Leon were HUGE - Sex On Fire was such an anthem when I was at university.
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Postby Spartan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:58 pm

Wayne wrote:I can remember when Kings of Leon were HUGE - Sex On Fire was such an anthem when I was at university.
They had two decent songs, which they rode on the coattails of and that’s it. Same with the likes of Snow Patrol.
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Postby TIfan » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:08 pm

I think the industry itself is the reason why Kings are not as big. Pop and Hip Hop are dominating.
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Postby MrLeonix » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:13 pm

Maybe the newer generation Rock bands are the ones struggling.

But the old Rock bands such as Metallica, U2, Pearl Jam, AC/DC, Res Hot chili peppers or Guns N Roses are outselling most of the divas with ease and with half-assed albums :lol: and they're also outgrossing the sh*t out of the Pop divas as well with their tours (except for Taylor) :wink:
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Postby Wayne » Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:25 pm

^ Not really a fair comparison though.

Historically, the big 3 female touring acts are Tina Turner, Madonna & Celine Dion - Tina is no longer active, Madonna is on hiatus, Celine only does part-time touring.

Further, rock fans consume music differently to pop fans.
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Postby Gravity » Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:10 am

Wayne wrote:Further, rock fans consume music differently to pop fans.
A very important thing that gets glossed over all the time - fans of different genres consume music in different ways.
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Postby Debs_Wild » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:03 am

Wayne wrote:Historically, the big 3 female touring acts are Tina Turner, Madonna & Celine Dion.
Who said that?

Cher's tours have grossed hundreds of millions of dollars. Why are you always underestimating her?
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Postby Wayne » Sat Jan 06, 2018 11:11 am

^ What on earth are you talking about? I used Tina as she has sold more concert tickets than any other female artist (and she’s grossed as much as Cher anyway) and I used Madonna and Celine as they are billion dollar acts (not million) - these three women are or were touring machines.

Not discrediting Cher, she is also a very successful touring artist.
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